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Hi Intrepid,

Could you please release the game on Linux also please?

Rysiu

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unknownsystemerror wrote: »

Platforms
Ashes of Creation will be released on the Windows PC platform.[262]

Console support may be added at a later point.
Native Linux support may be possible in future.[263]

Nice assist! Here's the link for those who'd like to read more: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Platforms

Falgn0n

This game is the only thing I am really looking forward to in terms of gaming.
The. Only. Thing. (everything else out there is just, well ... uugghh ...)

However,

I do not, and will not, use winblows. For anything. Ever.

If there is no native linux option, or decent linux support, well then I guess ... le sigh ... will just have to keep waiting for something *real* to be actually excited about for a change.

Gaming is better on linux, from top to bottom, through and through, at every level (referring to games actually built for linux). The *only* reason/s you don't get more "serious-like* games being developed for linux have nothing at all to do with performance or "technical" reasons, and everything to do with marketing, market share and profit.

If the gamers really got behind the Free Software development community (so that they could earn a proper living from developing full time), we'd have 1000% better games with a 100 times more genuinely interesting content being constantly created.

patrick68794

Falgn0n wrote: »

This game is the only thing I am really looking forward to in terms of gaming.
The. Only. Thing. (everything else out there is just, well ... uugghh ...)

However,

I do not, and will not, use winblows. For anything. Ever.

If there is no native linux option, or decent linux support, well then I guess ... le sigh ... will just have to keep waiting for something *real* to be actually excited about for a change.

Gaming is better on linux, from top to bottom, through and through, at every level (referring to games actually built for linux). The *only* reason/s you don't get more "serious-like* games being developed for linux have nothing at all to do with performance or "technical" reasons, and everything to do with marketing, market share and profit.

If the gamers really got behind the Free Software development community (so that they could earn a proper living from developing full time), we'd have 1000% better games with a 100 times more genuinely interesting content being constantly created.

this post is just full of absolute nonsense lol it's cool that you like Linux but there's no reason to spread stuff that just simply isn't true like this. At the end of the day for 99% of people gaming on Linux would be essentially identical to gaming on Windows. The only thing that wasn't just nonsense that you said is the fact that most games skip Linux because hardly anyone uses it for personal use and that isn't going to change anytime soon because the vast majority of people just don't want to switch.

Games would not magically be better if more people used Linux. There would not be more people making games if more people used Linux either. Using a different OS, that honestly for a "normal" user or gamer is going to be largely the same as using Windows (with most "mainstream" distros you really never need to touch the terminal unless you want to), isn't going to convince more people that they want to start developing games.

That said, I'm all for Linux ports for games. The more people that get to play more games on their preferred platform the better. I'd also love to see AoC and some other MMOs release on consoles

mezcapp

While a native Linux version would be neat, with the advances in Wine/Proton it seems extremely unlikely that a native version will happen. With that said, ill be happy if the devs just make sure that anything that blocks anyone not on Windows from playing has been taken care of.

Id hate to have waited this many years to play AoC just to be locked out just because I run Linux.

Depraved

Falgn0n wrote: »

This game is the only thing I am really looking forward to in terms of gaming.
The. Only. Thing. (everything else out there is just, well ... uugghh ...)

However,

I do not, and will not, use winblows. For anything. Ever.

If there is no native linux option, or decent linux support, well then I guess ... le sigh ... will just have to keep waiting for something *real* to be actually excited about for a change.

Gaming is better on linux, from top to bottom, through and through, at every level (referring to games actually built for linux). The *only* reason/s you don't get more "serious-like* games being developed for linux have nothing at all to do with performance or "technical" reasons, and everything to do with marketing, market share and profit.

If the gamers really got behind the Free Software development community (so that they could earn a proper living from developing full time), we'd have 1000% better games with a 100 times more genuinely interesting content being constantly created.

why you don't want to use windows ?:O

nanfoodle

Vaknar wrote: »

unknownsystemerror wrote: »

Platforms
Ashes of Creation will be released on the Windows PC platform.[262]

Console support may be added at a later point.
Native Linux support may be possible in future.[263]

Nice assist! Here's the link for those who'd like to read more: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Platforms

This is outdated, most of the info here is based from post in 2017 to 2021. Whats going on with Linux in 2024 with what Valve has done over the past two years. Really is worth taking a 2nd look. A gaming company like Ashes really needs to step up and lead the charge. Windows rain needs to be reevaluated. Companies need to prove there is other options that not only work but frankly are a better option as a whole.

Noaani

nanfoodle wrote: »

Vaknar wrote: »

unknownsystemerror wrote: »

Platforms
Ashes of Creation will be released on the Windows PC platform.[262]

Console support may be added at a later point.
Native Linux support may be possible in future.[263]

Nice assist! Here's the link for those who'd like to read more: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Platforms

This is outdated, most of the info here is based from post in 2017 to 2021. Whats going on with Linux in 2024 with what Valve has done over the past two years. Really is worth taking a 2nd look. A gaming company like Ashes really needs to step up and lead the charge. Windows rain needs to be reevaluated. Companies need to prove there is other options that not only work but frankly are a better option as a whole.

Again, Valve has only worked on compatibility. They have done nothing to prevent cheating.

I agree that Windows needs to be knocked down a step. The thing is, should that blow ever actually come, it will come from other OS developers, not game developers.

Valve hasn't yet dealt that blow, and none of the current Linux distro developers are even interested in contemplating it.

That blow, if it is to be from Linux, has to come in the form of giving application developers a reasonable assurance that their software can only be run as they intend it to be run. Linux does not offer this assurance in any form, so that keeps most software developers away.

Scarctic

mezcapp wrote: »

While a native Linux version would be neat, with the advances in Wine/Proton it seems extremely unlikely that a native version will happen. With that said, ill be happy if the devs just make sure that anything that blocks anyone not on Windows from playing has been taken care of.

Id hate to have waited this many years to play AoC just to be locked out just because I run Linux.

Then just emulate Windows on a virtual server...

mezcapp

Scarctic wrote: »

mezcapp wrote: »

While a native Linux version would be neat, with the advances in Wine/Proton it seems extremely unlikely that a native version will happen. With that said, ill be happy if the devs just make sure that anything that blocks anyone not on Windows from playing has been taken care of.

Id hate to have waited this many years to play AoC just to be locked out just because I run Linux.

Then just emulate Windows on a virtual server...

Using a virtualized environment is indeed becoming a great way for Linux and BSD players to run some unsupported Windows games, but this isn't easy. Between IOMMU, OVMF, and VirtIO there are a massive number of variables that will stop many people from being able to set up a fully working Windows VM with working PCIe GPU passthrough capable of rendering 3D workloads like games.

On my last trip down this rabbit hole I was able to get my test box, a Lenovo P410 workstation (Fedora Linux, Xeon e5-1650 v4, 24gb ram, Nvidia Quadro A2000) working with GPU acceleration, but ran into many issues in Windows VMs when gaming like in game stuttering, long load times, bluescreens, and no working audio.

Finally, the problem with running MMOs and other games that run anti-cheat software in this type of setup is that AC engines usually check for and prevent game launches or, like Steam's Valve Anti Cheat, can even ban the user if they detect that they are running in a virtual environment. This means that AoC is unlikely to be playable in this way.

nanfoodle

Noaani wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

Vaknar wrote: »

unknownsystemerror wrote: »

Platforms
Ashes of Creation will be released on the Windows PC platform.[262]

Console support may be added at a later point.
Native Linux support may be possible in future.[263]

Nice assist! Here's the link for those who'd like to read more: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Platforms

This is outdated, most of the info here is based from post in 2017 to 2021. Whats going on with Linux in 2024 with what Valve has done over the past two years. Really is worth taking a 2nd look. A gaming company like Ashes really needs to step up and lead the charge. Windows rain needs to be reevaluated. Companies need to prove there is other options that not only work but frankly are a better option as a whole.

Again, Valve has only worked on compatibility. They have done nothing to prevent cheating.

I agree that Windows needs to be knocked down a step. The thing is, should that blow ever actually come, it will come from other OS developers, not game developers.

Valve hasn't yet dealt that blow, and none of the current Linux distro developers are even interested in contemplating it.

That blow, if it is to be from Linux, has to come in the form of giving application developers a reasonable assurance that their software can only be run as they intend it to be run. Linux does not offer this assurance in any form, so that keeps most software developers away.

Thanks for tempering my expectations

I will be 100% honest. I really hope ashes supports Linux but I really don't think anyone risking big will any time soon.

Funkychicken

If you have a linux environment and want to run AOC please see this post https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/480141#Comment_480141

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