Apok wrote: » they listed it on steam as both an RPG and MMORPG, it uses traditional RPG elements like leveling, dungeons, crafting and raids for gear. the only thing new world does differently is the active combat. hand eye coordination will win or loose a fight where is most games it's just spamming what's on your hotbar or pulling off your combo before the other guy does
Dygz wrote: » Apok wrote: » they listed it on steam as both an RPG and MMORPG, it uses traditional RPG elements like leveling, dungeons, crafting and raids for gear. the only thing new world does differently is the active combat. hand eye coordination will win or loose a fight where is most games it's just spamming what's on your hotbar or pulling off your combo before the other guy does I think you mean Steam listed it as RPG. The official New World website does not. New World also does not have Classes and Character Levels. Which is another fundamental aspect of RPGs - in addition to Character stats, multiple (Fantasy) Races and Dice Rolls/RNG. BDO is a Hack N Slash game.
Dygz wrote: » Depraved wrote: » nw is an RPG. lots of game use invisible dice rolls. that's not a fundamental component of an RPG. that's like saying in platformers, players should be able to pick up a flower and then gain the ability to shoot fireballs (Mario 1 reference). that's not a fundamental component of platformers. New World is not an RPG. It's not even promoted as an RPG. Because it's not designed to be an RPG. New World was designed to be an MMO PvP game with some Survival Game elements - especially the Crafting design. After the execs decided there should be a reduced emphasis on PvP and more PvE should be added, the devs tacked on some RPG elements. But those RPG elements were not intended to fundamentally change the combat design with regard to RNG. Also, I did not say that only RPGs rely on dice-rolls/RNG. Depraved wrote: » the turn system is not what makes an RPG an rpg. We agree.
Depraved wrote: » nw is an RPG. lots of game use invisible dice rolls. that's not a fundamental component of an RPG. that's like saying in platformers, players should be able to pick up a flower and then gain the ability to shoot fireballs (Mario 1 reference). that's not a fundamental component of platformers.
Depraved wrote: » the turn system is not what makes an RPG an rpg.
SarahCo wrote: » A1exavier wrote: » any thoughts in having a combat system similar to new world ? New World combat was widely disliked and monotonous, and we should not base anything off a game that has closed its doors within a couple years of launching. Sorry that's my opinion.
A1exavier wrote: » any thoughts in having a combat system similar to new world ?
Mag7spy wrote: » Apok wrote: » you can call me a male feminist all you want but I don't think visual bs like that adds any real depth to a game, if you watch the NW video the guy was doing 1 on 1 fights showing himself dodging and taking people out. keep in mind the bow fires actual projectiles and works how it would in a shooter. he didn't pump up his stats and mash hotkeys and let the game do the work for him he had to actually dodge and aim at his target. Again NW is trash. BDO u dodge, iframe, super armour, Block all attacks. And your skills are actually interesting and you have a lot more of them than like mashing left click on your mouse and a few skills lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjoT1JQJfc
Apok wrote: » you can call me a male feminist all you want but I don't think visual bs like that adds any real depth to a game, if you watch the NW video the guy was doing 1 on 1 fights showing himself dodging and taking people out. keep in mind the bow fires actual projectiles and works how it would in a shooter. he didn't pump up his stats and mash hotkeys and let the game do the work for him he had to actually dodge and aim at his target.
Depraved wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Apok wrote: » you can call me a male feminist all you want but I don't think visual bs like that adds any real depth to a game, if you watch the NW video the guy was doing 1 on 1 fights showing himself dodging and taking people out. keep in mind the bow fires actual projectiles and works how it would in a shooter. he didn't pump up his stats and mash hotkeys and let the game do the work for him he had to actually dodge and aim at his target. Again NW is trash. BDO u dodge, iframe, super armour, Block all attacks. And your skills are actually interesting and you have a lot more of them than like mashing left click on your mouse and a few skills lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjoT1JQJfc i prefer bdo combat, but just because its an action game, doesnt mean it sbetter than nw combat. bdo and tera are more fast paced games, a million skills and a million saves (super armor, i frames, dodges, blocks, etc). nw is slower because it tried to be a more souls like combat (they ruined it with the light armor roll tho) with less buttons to press. its about pressing the button at the right time, or you get punished for it, no animation cancels to save you etc. (nw has super armor too btw). so even though they are all action games, they are targeted towards different audiences. a player who likes souls combat will say bdo combat is shit, and a player who likes bdo combat will say nw is shit...same happens when a player who likes tab targeting plays bdo and says its shit, and vice versa. or wow and aoc both being tab but they are different...
Mag7spy wrote: » Depraved wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Apok wrote: » you can call me a male feminist all you want but I don't think visual bs like that adds any real depth to a game, if you watch the NW video the guy was doing 1 on 1 fights showing himself dodging and taking people out. keep in mind the bow fires actual projectiles and works how it would in a shooter. he didn't pump up his stats and mash hotkeys and let the game do the work for him he had to actually dodge and aim at his target. Again NW is trash. BDO u dodge, iframe, super armour, Block all attacks. And your skills are actually interesting and you have a lot more of them than like mashing left click on your mouse and a few skills lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjoT1JQJfc i prefer bdo combat, but just because its an action game, doesnt mean it sbetter than nw combat. bdo and tera are more fast paced games, a million skills and a million saves (super armor, i frames, dodges, blocks, etc). nw is slower because it tried to be a more souls like combat (they ruined it with the light armor roll tho) with less buttons to press. its about pressing the button at the right time, or you get punished for it, no animation cancels to save you etc. (nw has super armor too btw). so even though they are all action games, they are targeted towards different audiences. a player who likes souls combat will say bdo combat is shit, and a player who likes bdo combat will say nw is shit...same happens when a player who likes tab targeting plays bdo and says its shit, and vice versa. or wow and aoc both being tab but they are different... I can list off a bunch of points on every element on why NW combat if bad. No one has said a action game is better than anther just because its action (which doesn't make sense sense I'm talking action - action in combat) I even said Tab is better than Nw lmao. Also not true i played all soul games. Makes me know that New world is not good even more so. Souls is also more niche (you can make argument with elden ring changing things more so now though). I don't really see a large group wanting a souls like mmo with combat. And people just wanting good action combat and NW is not it.
patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Depraved wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Apok wrote: » you can call me a male feminist all you want but I don't think visual bs like that adds any real depth to a game, if you watch the NW video the guy was doing 1 on 1 fights showing himself dodging and taking people out. keep in mind the bow fires actual projectiles and works how it would in a shooter. he didn't pump up his stats and mash hotkeys and let the game do the work for him he had to actually dodge and aim at his target. Again NW is trash. BDO u dodge, iframe, super armour, Block all attacks. And your skills are actually interesting and you have a lot more of them than like mashing left click on your mouse and a few skills lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjoT1JQJfc i prefer bdo combat, but just because its an action game, doesnt mean it sbetter than nw combat. bdo and tera are more fast paced games, a million skills and a million saves (super armor, i frames, dodges, blocks, etc). nw is slower because it tried to be a more souls like combat (they ruined it with the light armor roll tho) with less buttons to press. its about pressing the button at the right time, or you get punished for it, no animation cancels to save you etc. (nw has super armor too btw). so even though they are all action games, they are targeted towards different audiences. a player who likes souls combat will say bdo combat is shit, and a player who likes bdo combat will say nw is shit...same happens when a player who likes tab targeting plays bdo and says its shit, and vice versa. or wow and aoc both being tab but they are different... I can list off a bunch of points on every element on why NW combat if bad. No one has said a action game is better than anther just because its action (which doesn't make sense sense I'm talking action - action in combat) I even said Tab is better than Nw lmao. Also not true i played all soul games. Makes me know that New world is not good even more so. Souls is also more niche (you can make argument with elden ring changing things more so now though). I don't really see a large group wanting a souls like mmo with combat. And people just wanting good action combat and NW is not it. This is all just your opinion. Just because you don't like the combat in New World doesn't mean it's "bad" lol
Mag7spy wrote: » patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Depraved wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Apok wrote: » you can call me a male feminist all you want but I don't think visual bs like that adds any real depth to a game, if you watch the NW video the guy was doing 1 on 1 fights showing himself dodging and taking people out. keep in mind the bow fires actual projectiles and works how it would in a shooter. he didn't pump up his stats and mash hotkeys and let the game do the work for him he had to actually dodge and aim at his target. Again NW is trash. BDO u dodge, iframe, super armour, Block all attacks. And your skills are actually interesting and you have a lot more of them than like mashing left click on your mouse and a few skills lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjoT1JQJfc i prefer bdo combat, but just because its an action game, doesnt mean it sbetter than nw combat. bdo and tera are more fast paced games, a million skills and a million saves (super armor, i frames, dodges, blocks, etc). nw is slower because it tried to be a more souls like combat (they ruined it with the light armor roll tho) with less buttons to press. its about pressing the button at the right time, or you get punished for it, no animation cancels to save you etc. (nw has super armor too btw). so even though they are all action games, they are targeted towards different audiences. a player who likes souls combat will say bdo combat is shit, and a player who likes bdo combat will say nw is shit...same happens when a player who likes tab targeting plays bdo and says its shit, and vice versa. or wow and aoc both being tab but they are different... I can list off a bunch of points on every element on why NW combat if bad. No one has said a action game is better than anther just because its action (which doesn't make sense sense I'm talking action - action in combat) I even said Tab is better than Nw lmao. Also not true i played all soul games. Makes me know that New world is not good even more so. Souls is also more niche (you can make argument with elden ring changing things more so now though). I don't really see a large group wanting a souls like mmo with combat. And people just wanting good action combat and NW is not it. This is all just your opinion. Just because you don't like the combat in New World doesn't mean it's "bad" lol Yes everything is an opinion with these kinds of things. People can think a game that is bad is good to them. But if you like clunky combat, very basic amount of skills to use, combat mainly about using left click for combat, terrible frames with the game, 2 tap hit scan weapons, terrible feeling movement, low character customization, survival style combat for your skills, basic complexity of pve Though given enough time, your bar on what you expect from some games I'm sure will raise over time as you get bored of those ones.
Depraved wrote: » woah shots fired xD
Mag7spy wrote: » Again NW is trash. BDO u dodge, iframe, super armour, Block all attacks. And your skills are actually interesting and you have a lot more of them than like mashing left click on your mouse and a few skills lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjoT1JQJfc
patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Depraved wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Apok wrote: » you can call me a male feminist all you want but I don't think visual bs like that adds any real depth to a game, if you watch the NW video the guy was doing 1 on 1 fights showing himself dodging and taking people out. keep in mind the bow fires actual projectiles and works how it would in a shooter. he didn't pump up his stats and mash hotkeys and let the game do the work for him he had to actually dodge and aim at his target. Again NW is trash. BDO u dodge, iframe, super armour, Block all attacks. And your skills are actually interesting and you have a lot more of them than like mashing left click on your mouse and a few skills lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjoT1JQJfc i prefer bdo combat, but just because its an action game, doesnt mean it sbetter than nw combat. bdo and tera are more fast paced games, a million skills and a million saves (super armor, i frames, dodges, blocks, etc). nw is slower because it tried to be a more souls like combat (they ruined it with the light armor roll tho) with less buttons to press. its about pressing the button at the right time, or you get punished for it, no animation cancels to save you etc. (nw has super armor too btw). so even though they are all action games, they are targeted towards different audiences. a player who likes souls combat will say bdo combat is shit, and a player who likes bdo combat will say nw is shit...same happens when a player who likes tab targeting plays bdo and says its shit, and vice versa. or wow and aoc both being tab but they are different... I can list off a bunch of points on every element on why NW combat if bad. No one has said a action game is better than anther just because its action (which doesn't make sense sense I'm talking action - action in combat) I even said Tab is better than Nw lmao. Also not true i played all soul games. Makes me know that New world is not good even more so. Souls is also more niche (you can make argument with elden ring changing things more so now though). I don't really see a large group wanting a souls like mmo with combat. And people just wanting good action combat and NW is not it. This is all just your opinion. Just because you don't like the combat in New World doesn't mean it's "bad" lol Yes everything is an opinion with these kinds of things. People can think a game that is bad is good to them. But if you like clunky combat, very basic amount of skills to use, combat mainly about using left click for combat, terrible frames with the game, 2 tap hit scan weapons, terrible feeling movement, low character customization, survival style combat for your skills, basic complexity of pve Though given enough time, your bar on what you expect from some games I'm sure will raise over time as you get bored of those ones. I love it when people like you try to be condescending about people not sharing your opinion lol just shows just how immature you actually are. I don't even really care for NW's combat by the way. It's just absolutely astounding how childish this kind of crap is. It also sounds like you haven't even actually played the game for more than maybe a couple hours at most.
Apok wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Again NW is trash. BDO u dodge, iframe, super armour, Block all attacks. And your skills are actually interesting and you have a lot more of them than like mashing left click on your mouse and a few skills lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjoT1JQJfc NW is also Iframes and active blocking, that's what the guy in the video is doing is iframing people. I also run a super armor build in NW. the skill customization is pretty good the only thing it doesn't have that BDO has is flashy animations, and without those animations BDO would look like dog shit also they are MMOs and you keep posting 1v1s NW has 50v50
Mag7spy wrote: » patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Depraved wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Apok wrote: » you can call me a male feminist all you want but I don't think visual bs like that adds any real depth to a game, if you watch the NW video the guy was doing 1 on 1 fights showing himself dodging and taking people out. keep in mind the bow fires actual projectiles and works how it would in a shooter. he didn't pump up his stats and mash hotkeys and let the game do the work for him he had to actually dodge and aim at his target. Again NW is trash. BDO u dodge, iframe, super armour, Block all attacks. And your skills are actually interesting and you have a lot more of them than like mashing left click on your mouse and a few skills lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjoT1JQJfc i prefer bdo combat, but just because its an action game, doesnt mean it sbetter than nw combat. bdo and tera are more fast paced games, a million skills and a million saves (super armor, i frames, dodges, blocks, etc). nw is slower because it tried to be a more souls like combat (they ruined it with the light armor roll tho) with less buttons to press. its about pressing the button at the right time, or you get punished for it, no animation cancels to save you etc. (nw has super armor too btw). so even though they are all action games, they are targeted towards different audiences. a player who likes souls combat will say bdo combat is shit, and a player who likes bdo combat will say nw is shit...same happens when a player who likes tab targeting plays bdo and says its shit, and vice versa. or wow and aoc both being tab but they are different... I can list off a bunch of points on every element on why NW combat if bad. No one has said a action game is better than anther just because its action (which doesn't make sense sense I'm talking action - action in combat) I even said Tab is better than Nw lmao. Also not true i played all soul games. Makes me know that New world is not good even more so. Souls is also more niche (you can make argument with elden ring changing things more so now though). I don't really see a large group wanting a souls like mmo with combat. And people just wanting good action combat and NW is not it. This is all just your opinion. Just because you don't like the combat in New World doesn't mean it's "bad" lol Yes everything is an opinion with these kinds of things. People can think a game that is bad is good to them. But if you like clunky combat, very basic amount of skills to use, combat mainly about using left click for combat, terrible frames with the game, 2 tap hit scan weapons, terrible feeling movement, low character customization, survival style combat for your skills, basic complexity of pve Though given enough time, your bar on what you expect from some games I'm sure will raise over time as you get bored of those ones. I love it when people like you try to be condescending about people not sharing your opinion lol just shows just how immature you actually are. I don't even really care for NW's combat by the way. It's just absolutely astounding how childish this kind of crap is. It also sounds like you haven't even actually played the game for more than maybe a couple hours at most. What is childish is what you are saying right now LMFAO. You are mad someone is talking about a game that is known for having bad gameplay and actually being surprised. Its funny when i start listing off all the issues and your response is saying im childish and i haven't played the game. unable to give actual points. I know plenty of the issues since i had like 400 hours in the first month of the game, and i owned the best territory on the server with the guild I was leading and beating a 500 man zerg guild. It is funny when you talk about not knowing what opinions are, some people actually base their opinions on playing the game on a high level so they can fully judge the game properly -winks-
patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Depraved wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Apok wrote: » you can call me a male feminist all you want but I don't think visual bs like that adds any real depth to a game, if you watch the NW video the guy was doing 1 on 1 fights showing himself dodging and taking people out. keep in mind the bow fires actual projectiles and works how it would in a shooter. he didn't pump up his stats and mash hotkeys and let the game do the work for him he had to actually dodge and aim at his target. Again NW is trash. BDO u dodge, iframe, super armour, Block all attacks. And your skills are actually interesting and you have a lot more of them than like mashing left click on your mouse and a few skills lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjoT1JQJfc i prefer bdo combat, but just because its an action game, doesnt mean it sbetter than nw combat. bdo and tera are more fast paced games, a million skills and a million saves (super armor, i frames, dodges, blocks, etc). nw is slower because it tried to be a more souls like combat (they ruined it with the light armor roll tho) with less buttons to press. its about pressing the button at the right time, or you get punished for it, no animation cancels to save you etc. (nw has super armor too btw). so even though they are all action games, they are targeted towards different audiences. a player who likes souls combat will say bdo combat is shit, and a player who likes bdo combat will say nw is shit...same happens when a player who likes tab targeting plays bdo and says its shit, and vice versa. or wow and aoc both being tab but they are different... I can list off a bunch of points on every element on why NW combat if bad. No one has said a action game is better than anther just because its action (which doesn't make sense sense I'm talking action - action in combat) I even said Tab is better than Nw lmao. Also not true i played all soul games. Makes me know that New world is not good even more so. Souls is also more niche (you can make argument with elden ring changing things more so now though). I don't really see a large group wanting a souls like mmo with combat. And people just wanting good action combat and NW is not it. This is all just your opinion. Just because you don't like the combat in New World doesn't mean it's "bad" lol Yes everything is an opinion with these kinds of things. People can think a game that is bad is good to them. But if you like clunky combat, very basic amount of skills to use, combat mainly about using left click for combat, terrible frames with the game, 2 tap hit scan weapons, terrible feeling movement, low character customization, survival style combat for your skills, basic complexity of pve Though given enough time, your bar on what you expect from some games I'm sure will raise over time as you get bored of those ones. I love it when people like you try to be condescending about people not sharing your opinion lol just shows just how immature you actually are. I don't even really care for NW's combat by the way. It's just absolutely astounding how childish this kind of crap is. It also sounds like you haven't even actually played the game for more than maybe a couple hours at most. What is childish is what you are saying right now LMFAO. You are mad someone is talking about a game that is known for having bad gameplay and actually being surprised. Its funny when i start listing off all the issues and your response is saying im childish and i haven't played the game. unable to give actual points. I know plenty of the issues since i had like 400 hours in the first month of the game, and i owned the best territory on the server with the guild I was leading and beating a 500 man zerg guild. It is funny when you talk about not knowing what opinions are, some people actually base their opinions on playing the game on a high level so they can fully judge the game properly -winks- I'm not mad about anything lol just calling out the childish shit you're spreading. All of the "issues" you mentioned are just things you personally didn't like. None of them are objectively bad. That's why it's nothing more than your opinion. It doesn't matter if you played it for 4 minutes or 400 hours (which begs the question about why you'd supposedly waste so much time on something you don't like, but that's another issue of yours that you should probably work through on your own) you're doing nothing more than narcissistically trying to state your opinion like it has any objective value when it doesn't.
Mag7spy wrote: » patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Depraved wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Apok wrote: » you can call me a male feminist all you want but I don't think visual bs like that adds any real depth to a game, if you watch the NW video the guy was doing 1 on 1 fights showing himself dodging and taking people out. keep in mind the bow fires actual projectiles and works how it would in a shooter. he didn't pump up his stats and mash hotkeys and let the game do the work for him he had to actually dodge and aim at his target. Again NW is trash. BDO u dodge, iframe, super armour, Block all attacks. And your skills are actually interesting and you have a lot more of them than like mashing left click on your mouse and a few skills lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjoT1JQJfc i prefer bdo combat, but just because its an action game, doesnt mean it sbetter than nw combat. bdo and tera are more fast paced games, a million skills and a million saves (super armor, i frames, dodges, blocks, etc). nw is slower because it tried to be a more souls like combat (they ruined it with the light armor roll tho) with less buttons to press. its about pressing the button at the right time, or you get punished for it, no animation cancels to save you etc. (nw has super armor too btw). so even though they are all action games, they are targeted towards different audiences. a player who likes souls combat will say bdo combat is shit, and a player who likes bdo combat will say nw is shit...same happens when a player who likes tab targeting plays bdo and says its shit, and vice versa. or wow and aoc both being tab but they are different... I can list off a bunch of points on every element on why NW combat if bad. No one has said a action game is better than anther just because its action (which doesn't make sense sense I'm talking action - action in combat) I even said Tab is better than Nw lmao. Also not true i played all soul games. Makes me know that New world is not good even more so. Souls is also more niche (you can make argument with elden ring changing things more so now though). I don't really see a large group wanting a souls like mmo with combat. And people just wanting good action combat and NW is not it. This is all just your opinion. Just because you don't like the combat in New World doesn't mean it's "bad" lol Yes everything is an opinion with these kinds of things. People can think a game that is bad is good to them. But if you like clunky combat, very basic amount of skills to use, combat mainly about using left click for combat, terrible frames with the game, 2 tap hit scan weapons, terrible feeling movement, low character customization, survival style combat for your skills, basic complexity of pve Though given enough time, your bar on what you expect from some games I'm sure will raise over time as you get bored of those ones. I love it when people like you try to be condescending about people not sharing your opinion lol just shows just how immature you actually are. I don't even really care for NW's combat by the way. It's just absolutely astounding how childish this kind of crap is. It also sounds like you haven't even actually played the game for more than maybe a couple hours at most. What is childish is what you are saying right now LMFAO. You are mad someone is talking about a game that is known for having bad gameplay and actually being surprised. Its funny when i start listing off all the issues and your response is saying im childish and i haven't played the game. unable to give actual points. I know plenty of the issues since i had like 400 hours in the first month of the game, and i owned the best territory on the server with the guild I was leading and beating a 500 man zerg guild. It is funny when you talk about not knowing what opinions are, some people actually base their opinions on playing the game on a high level so they can fully judge the game properly -winks- I'm not mad about anything lol just calling out the childish shit you're spreading. All of the "issues" you mentioned are just things you personally didn't like. None of them are objectively bad. That's why it's nothing more than your opinion. It doesn't matter if you played it for 4 minutes or 400 hours (which begs the question about why you'd supposedly waste so much time on something you don't like, but that's another issue of yours that you should probably work through on your own) you're doing nothing more than narcissistically trying to state your opinion like it has any objective value when it doesn't. This sounds like you really have not played new world lmao. I find it funny you call things childish when people bring up actual issues with a game while not knowing or understanding the issues. To me that sounds pretty childish right there you are looking at any way to try to make my point not seen as valid. First you try to suggest i have not played the game, than you try to say it doesn't matter how much time i played, and than you try to say im wasting my time. Pretty much your reaching because you aren't mature enough to realize your own fault, when you have already admitted to not caring about new world. You are asking the question why i played it, I had just answered that. Mainly because even if the game is no the best i can still play with my guild and get some kind of enjoyment out of it, 2 because If i only play it slightly I'm not going to understand all the issues or good qualities with the game. Now you are trying to label my opinion when earlier you were trying to fight for people to have an opinion, it sounds like you just don't like when someone has experience and has a negative opinion. You don't know what you want to say as you try to weasel your way out to find some kind of insult to sling at me. Anything else to say Patrick, or is the tantrum over?
patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Depraved wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Apok wrote: » you can call me a male feminist all you want but I don't think visual bs like that adds any real depth to a game, if you watch the NW video the guy was doing 1 on 1 fights showing himself dodging and taking people out. keep in mind the bow fires actual projectiles and works how it would in a shooter. he didn't pump up his stats and mash hotkeys and let the game do the work for him he had to actually dodge and aim at his target. Again NW is trash. BDO u dodge, iframe, super armour, Block all attacks. And your skills are actually interesting and you have a lot more of them than like mashing left click on your mouse and a few skills lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjoT1JQJfc i prefer bdo combat, but just because its an action game, doesnt mean it sbetter than nw combat. bdo and tera are more fast paced games, a million skills and a million saves (super armor, i frames, dodges, blocks, etc). nw is slower because it tried to be a more souls like combat (they ruined it with the light armor roll tho) with less buttons to press. its about pressing the button at the right time, or you get punished for it, no animation cancels to save you etc. (nw has super armor too btw). so even though they are all action games, they are targeted towards different audiences. a player who likes souls combat will say bdo combat is shit, and a player who likes bdo combat will say nw is shit...same happens when a player who likes tab targeting plays bdo and says its shit, and vice versa. or wow and aoc both being tab but they are different... I can list off a bunch of points on every element on why NW combat if bad. No one has said a action game is better than anther just because its action (which doesn't make sense sense I'm talking action - action in combat) I even said Tab is better than Nw lmao. Also not true i played all soul games. Makes me know that New world is not good even more so. Souls is also more niche (you can make argument with elden ring changing things more so now though). I don't really see a large group wanting a souls like mmo with combat. And people just wanting good action combat and NW is not it. This is all just your opinion. Just because you don't like the combat in New World doesn't mean it's "bad" lol Yes everything is an opinion with these kinds of things. People can think a game that is bad is good to them. But if you like clunky combat, very basic amount of skills to use, combat mainly about using left click for combat, terrible frames with the game, 2 tap hit scan weapons, terrible feeling movement, low character customization, survival style combat for your skills, basic complexity of pve Though given enough time, your bar on what you expect from some games I'm sure will raise over time as you get bored of those ones. I love it when people like you try to be condescending about people not sharing your opinion lol just shows just how immature you actually are. I don't even really care for NW's combat by the way. It's just absolutely astounding how childish this kind of crap is. It also sounds like you haven't even actually played the game for more than maybe a couple hours at most. What is childish is what you are saying right now LMFAO. You are mad someone is talking about a game that is known for having bad gameplay and actually being surprised. Its funny when i start listing off all the issues and your response is saying im childish and i haven't played the game. unable to give actual points. I know plenty of the issues since i had like 400 hours in the first month of the game, and i owned the best territory on the server with the guild I was leading and beating a 500 man zerg guild. It is funny when you talk about not knowing what opinions are, some people actually base their opinions on playing the game on a high level so they can fully judge the game properly -winks- I'm not mad about anything lol just calling out the childish shit you're spreading. All of the "issues" you mentioned are just things you personally didn't like. None of them are objectively bad. That's why it's nothing more than your opinion. It doesn't matter if you played it for 4 minutes or 400 hours (which begs the question about why you'd supposedly waste so much time on something you don't like, but that's another issue of yours that you should probably work through on your own) you're doing nothing more than narcissistically trying to state your opinion like it has any objective value when it doesn't. This sounds like you really have not played new world lmao. I find it funny you call things childish when people bring up actual issues with a game while not knowing or understanding the issues. To me that sounds pretty childish right there you are looking at any way to try to make my point not seen as valid. First you try to suggest i have not played the game, than you try to say it doesn't matter how much time i played, and than you try to say im wasting my time. Pretty much your reaching because you aren't mature enough to realize your own fault, when you have already admitted to not caring about new world. You are asking the question why i played it, I had just answered that. Mainly because even if the game is no the best i can still play with my guild and get some kind of enjoyment out of it, 2 because If i only play it slightly I'm not going to understand all the issues or good qualities with the game. Now you are trying to label my opinion when earlier you were trying to fight for people to have an opinion, it sounds like you just don't like when someone has experience and has a negative opinion. You don't know what you want to say as you try to weasel your way out to find some kind of insult to sling at me. Anything else to say Patrick, or is the tantrum over? Your opinion is no more right or wrong than someone's opinion who likes the combat in New World, regardless of what you think lol most of this post is just nonsense. The things you think are issues are subjective. I really hope that someday you can have a discussion without thinking your opinions are more valid than anyone else's because they aren't.
Mag7spy wrote: » patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » patrick68794 wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Depraved wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Apok wrote: » you can call me a male feminist all you want but I don't think visual bs like that adds any real depth to a game, if you watch the NW video the guy was doing 1 on 1 fights showing himself dodging and taking people out. keep in mind the bow fires actual projectiles and works how it would in a shooter. he didn't pump up his stats and mash hotkeys and let the game do the work for him he had to actually dodge and aim at his target. Again NW is trash. BDO u dodge, iframe, super armour, Block all attacks. And your skills are actually interesting and you have a lot more of them than like mashing left click on your mouse and a few skills lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjoT1JQJfc i prefer bdo combat, but just because its an action game, doesnt mean it sbetter than nw combat. bdo and tera are more fast paced games, a million skills and a million saves (super armor, i frames, dodges, blocks, etc). nw is slower because it tried to be a more souls like combat (they ruined it with the light armor roll tho) with less buttons to press. its about pressing the button at the right time, or you get punished for it, no animation cancels to save you etc. (nw has super armor too btw). so even though they are all action games, they are targeted towards different audiences. a player who likes souls combat will say bdo combat is shit, and a player who likes bdo combat will say nw is shit...same happens when a player who likes tab targeting plays bdo and says its shit, and vice versa. or wow and aoc both being tab but they are different... I can list off a bunch of points on every element on why NW combat if bad. No one has said a action game is better than anther just because its action (which doesn't make sense sense I'm talking action - action in combat) I even said Tab is better than Nw lmao. Also not true i played all soul games. Makes me know that New world is not good even more so. Souls is also more niche (you can make argument with elden ring changing things more so now though). I don't really see a large group wanting a souls like mmo with combat. And people just wanting good action combat and NW is not it. This is all just your opinion. Just because you don't like the combat in New World doesn't mean it's "bad" lol Yes everything is an opinion with these kinds of things. People can think a game that is bad is good to them. But if you like clunky combat, very basic amount of skills to use, combat mainly about using left click for combat, terrible frames with the game, 2 tap hit scan weapons, terrible feeling movement, low character customization, survival style combat for your skills, basic complexity of pve Though given enough time, your bar on what you expect from some games I'm sure will raise over time as you get bored of those ones. I love it when people like you try to be condescending about people not sharing your opinion lol just shows just how immature you actually are. I don't even really care for NW's combat by the way. It's just absolutely astounding how childish this kind of crap is. It also sounds like you haven't even actually played the game for more than maybe a couple hours at most. What is childish is what you are saying right now LMFAO. You are mad someone is talking about a game that is known for having bad gameplay and actually being surprised. Its funny when i start listing off all the issues and your response is saying im childish and i haven't played the game. unable to give actual points. I know plenty of the issues since i had like 400 hours in the first month of the game, and i owned the best territory on the server with the guild I was leading and beating a 500 man zerg guild. It is funny when you talk about not knowing what opinions are, some people actually base their opinions on playing the game on a high level so they can fully judge the game properly -winks- I'm not mad about anything lol just calling out the childish shit you're spreading. All of the "issues" you mentioned are just things you personally didn't like. None of them are objectively bad. That's why it's nothing more than your opinion. It doesn't matter if you played it for 4 minutes or 400 hours (which begs the question about why you'd supposedly waste so much time on something you don't like, but that's another issue of yours that you should probably work through on your own) you're doing nothing more than narcissistically trying to state your opinion like it has any objective value when it doesn't. This sounds like you really have not played new world lmao. I find it funny you call things childish when people bring up actual issues with a game while not knowing or understanding the issues. To me that sounds pretty childish right there you are looking at any way to try to make my point not seen as valid. First you try to suggest i have not played the game, than you try to say it doesn't matter how much time i played, and than you try to say im wasting my time. Pretty much your reaching because you aren't mature enough to realize your own fault, when you have already admitted to not caring about new world. You are asking the question why i played it, I had just answered that. Mainly because even if the game is no the best i can still play with my guild and get some kind of enjoyment out of it, 2 because If i only play it slightly I'm not going to understand all the issues or good qualities with the game. Now you are trying to label my opinion when earlier you were trying to fight for people to have an opinion, it sounds like you just don't like when someone has experience and has a negative opinion. You don't know what you want to say as you try to weasel your way out to find some kind of insult to sling at me. Anything else to say Patrick, or is the tantrum over? Your opinion is no more right or wrong than someone's opinion who likes the combat in New World, regardless of what you think lol most of this post is just nonsense. The things you think are issues are subjective. I really hope that someday you can have a discussion without thinking your opinions are more valid than anyone else's because they aren't. I wrote off issues with the game and u said it was being childish and that you dont have much thought on new world. The issues is you is don't enough maturity to say you were wrong in your thought when u started saying i had not played the game.
