Bunny hopping

George_Black

Let's add a stamina cost to Jump and help keep the game prettier

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Abarat

Dygz wrote: »

Steven loves bunny-hopping.
I don't expect that to become limited.

Can you please provide a reference for this claim?

nanfoodle

hleV wrote: »

"It's fine because it's a game" is a cop-out since you can use it for anything.

Bunnyhop slowdown is fine because it's a game.

daveywavey wrote: »

hleV wrote: »

It's a popular opinion that senseless bunny hopping looks dumb. How is "it's fine because it's a game?" even an argument?

If so many people bunny-hop that it needs its own thread, then presumably it's also a popular opinion that bunny-hopping is fun.

And "it's fine because it's a game" makes sense because games are meant to be fun!

Surely we can have features that are fun, aren't pointless and don't look dumb.

Dont agree with you. Because it's a game is a great reason. It's a big thing my wife loves doing in MMOs because she has mobility issues. She plays MMOs to escape that. Feel like a hero and climb and jump up every surface she can. It's fun for people. Let it go.

daveywavey

nanfoodle wrote: »

Feel like a hero and climb and jump up every surface she can. It's fun for people. Let it go.

Yesss! In Star Trek Online, I used to use my Engineer's Cover Shield skill to climb up every surface I could. I got to some really unusual places, and had a fantastic view of everything. Aaaaand, then they nerfed it. And now I don't play it at all.

hleV

nanfoodle wrote: »

Dont agree with you. Because it's a game is a great reason. It's a big thing my wife loves doing in MMOs because she has mobility issues. She plays MMOs to escape that. Feel like a hero and climb and jump up every surface she can. It's fun for people. Let it go.

Nobody's asking to remove the jump button.

Aszkalon

daveywavey wrote: »

In Star Trek Online, I used to use my Engineer's Cover Shield skill to climb up every surface I could. I got to some really unusual places, and had a fantastic view of everything. Aaaaand, then they nerfed it. And now I don't play it at all.

Tze tze tze.

Didn't you get that some Developers don't want You to be an Explorer but only a Customer that plays ? lol

( This is meant in a cynical way. I witnessed something like this happen in other Games as well. )

leamese

i don't mind. maybe when you jump too much it slows you a little. must be exhausting.

nanfoodle

hleV wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

Dont agree with you. Because it's a game is a great reason. It's a big thing my wife loves doing in MMOs because she has mobility issues. She plays MMOs to escape that. Feel like a hero and climb and jump up every surface she can. It's fun for people. Let it go.

Nobody's asking to remove the jump button.

Bunny hopping is part of that joy my wife and I enjoy. It's a past time right back to dating while we played WoW together. Bunny hop hate all you want. It's valid form of game play in a MMO. I get stam styles MMOs limit this. But jumping does nothing in combat in this game but help getting up a ledge to get to a enemy.

Solmyr

I agree that bunny hopping looks dumb, and the best solution is to give players something else to do in their downtime. Weapon flourishes come to mind. I wouldn't mind jump being tied into the stamina pool as well, but only if it can be used to dodge certain attacks.

Pyrolol

It doesn’t look dumb, it looks like an mmo
Still don’t see the point in taking away something fun that barely even effects gameplay but is just a fun habit
This starting to sound like the Call of Duty complaints 😂

Noelzy

If jumping cost stamina how am i gonna aimlessly jump in circles around town when bored

Spif

...you will be using stamina while jumping in circles around town while bored. That's how.

Anyone worried about non-combat jumping would not have to worry if there was a small stam cost to jumping. That still allows for plenty of jumping...possibly infinite out-of-combat jumping, depending on the way stam regen works.

Same with "How will I get out of a hole if it costs stam to jump?" people. You jump out of the hole and pay a little stam.

daveywavey

Noelzy wrote: »

If jumping cost stamina how am i gonna aimlessly jump in circles around town when bored

If an object is even a roughly circular shape, it gets bunny-hopped around. That's just how it is!

Sengarden

From what I've seen of and heard the devs say about the "action combat" system, you'll barely have to aim at your target to hit them. It's just a soft lock targeting system. Same as tab, but you don't have to click on anything. It's like the equivalent of VR games that let you target things with a general gaze, but it's your mouse movement instead. I don't think some bouncing around here and there will hurt anything. If anything, it will likely only make the person bunny hopping less capable of managing their skill use and movement in combat.

Githal

Settite wrote: »

Why should jumping cost stamina if it won't provide any benefit due to tab targeting?

This could both provide , benefit or not depending how the game is made.
In Wow for example if you get stunned while mid air in a jump - you will still move the jump distance before you are grounded in place from the stun. And same is for slows. If you get slowed mid air - you will pass the jump distance with the same speed as before the slow, and the slow will take effect after you land on the ground.

Ofc if the stun mid air forcefully grounds you and stop any movement - then you will be right

TheDarkSorcerer

I love bunny hopping. I can't wait to annoy the army of anti-bunnies.

Dygz

Pyrolol wrote: »

It doesn’t look dumb, it looks like an mmo
Still don’t see the point in taking away something fun that barely even effects gameplay but is just a fun habit
This starting to sound like the Call of Duty complaints 😂

Breaks immersion for RPG players.
Gamers are not going to have as much of an issue with bunny-hopping because they aren't as fanatical about immersion.

Mag7spy

Sengarden wrote: »

From what I've seen of and heard the devs say about the "action combat" system, you'll barely have to aim at your target to hit them. It's just a soft lock targeting system. Same as tab, but you don't have to click on anything. It's like the equivalent of VR games that let you target things with a general gaze, but it's your mouse movement instead. I don't think some bouncing around here and there will hurt anything. If anything, it will likely only make the person bunny hopping less capable of managing their skill use and movement in combat.

This sound like someone that has played games before lmao. 100% true.

Endowed

Shouldnt Jumping move you slower than running in game? And lower your ability to perform other actions/skills?

Dygz

It's mostly just something gamers do when they get bored.
adhdadhdadhd

Endowed

Dygz wrote: »

It's mostly just something gamers do when they get bored.
adhdadhdadhd

True enough in pve and in safe zones.
Its mostly used otherwise in such pvp cases.

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