World looks pretty bare

As someone who has bought a key for Phase II, the world that I'm seeing looks... barren. Large packs of mobs here and there, but otherwise just a bunch of empty spaces to run around. I can understand the concept of testing systems and that things will lack polish, but how about making an attempt at creating a patch of the environment with the density of mobs and gathering nodes that players are intended to experience when the game goes live?

Also, the gear dropped from mobs, or lack thereof, seems pretty dissatisfying.

The point of an alpha should not be TO GRIND, and yet that's what many of the players seem to be doing to level. They should be making leveling and gear drops come quickly, so that there is a greater chance of any one item, and different areas of the world that require different character levels, to be tested. Steven Sharif's already said that this is going to be a "true alpha," which sounds like he's saying that your satisfaction and enjoyment of the pace of content is not what's being tested. They should be accelerating virtually everythiing so that people can test the systems, not making people grind mobs to level or run around for hours to gather a few materials for a single crafting quest.

Furthermore, the developers have laid out their intention to make the alpha "as persistent as possible." Why? It's an alpha. They would be learning much more by resetting players frequently and having them level again and again, by some different path or as a different character, every couple of weeks (a Wek a week... make that a slogan). It seems... lazy of them, and a disservice to people who paid money to Intrepid Studios for the opportunity to help debug their product.

I will grant, there are bugs and idiosyncracies that can only be teased out by grinding. I say so as a developer of a different sort of software which runs on GPUs (we had to grind for more than thirty GPU-days before we could establish that there was a bug lurking somewhere in there, and once we had the scent we were able to hone in on it and solve it). But there are SO many bugs to find, and there's only so much that an be learned by making players constantly eat and drink or wander around or kill multitudes of similar mobs to gain experience. If there's a bug in the resting XP system (WoW veteran detected...) then it's probably going to show up just as easily if mobs are granting 1500 XP per kill than if they are granting 50. And if there's a bug in the graphics for celebrating your character leveling up, or in the way the overturn auto-unlocks and enhances certain abilities, it's much better to have more level-ups, not less, in the alpha phase so that more and more situations can be encountered.

Make things progress faster, so that more bugs can be encountered more quickly. Otherwise I'd just as soon go back to WoW and resume farming mounts (with no hope of catching up after a four-year hiatus, now that so many limited-time rides have gone by). The alpha is not polished, I get that. But until he game is polished it's impossible to know if I would enjoy running around and farming mobs or picking flowers for an evening. It's also useless to make players grind mobs to level, as if that's helping to polish the mob XP and attack damage against players of a given level. We're way from that point. So, until there's a much greater degree of polish, Intrepid should be showering players with lucky drops, a glut of XP to level one character and then a few alts, and plentiful gathering nodes in many places or juxtapositions with terrain they might be thinking of carrying over to live.

I look forward to writing more complaints if and when I enter Verra. I would especially appreciate care packages for articulate and thoughtful reviews. Epic staff, please.

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Noaani

Telandras wrote: »

We are obviously talking past each other. The reason I was asking for your meme is that it sounded to me like you were referring to something about games and how they are deliberately engineered to monopolize your time. Yeah. Polished, subscription-based games that you pay to play are designed like that. But as you are also insisting, this alpha is not such a game.

For someone that claims to be a programmer, you aren't overly good at reading (a skill I've noticed more and more people lacking over the last decade).

You referred to this test and how you think gear and leveling should happen faster. In response, I specifically talked about why Intrepid do not want that for this test, how their goal is to just have people online right now, and since some people look at this incorrectly as an early access or sneak peak (looking directly at you here), it is not in the tests best interests to speed up the time it takes everyone to see the content on offer, as they will leave the test sooner.

By making it take longer to get these things, people spend longer in the test environment, which means more people online at any given time, which is the goal of this test.

Your comparison to Blizzard/WoW is amusing. You are talking about the final stages of testing an expansion. This kind of testing is about testing out the content that the developers think is finished, it is a play test. This testing is done on a platform that has already had the stress testing and basic system functionality testing done (in the case of WoW, this all happened in 2002/2003).

That is why Blizzard (and every developer running a test for an expansion) offer leveling. There is no need to test the leveling process, no need to stress test, no need to test lower level stuff - all they need in that test are people running the new content, meaning they need characters of an appropriate level.

Again, that isn't what this test is. That kind of testing will happen for Ashes base game in the 6 months leading up to launch. At that time, I fully expect Intrepid to offer auto leveling if they have a specific need to test higher level content, I fully expect them to auto level nodes to test out each permutation of nodes.

Your expectation of what this alpha test is about was clearly wrong, your last comment in the post above proves that - an alpha isn't about enjoying the product, that isn't why you should be here.

Depraved

Telandras wrote: »

As someone who has bought a key for Phase II, the world that I'm seeing looks... barren. Large packs of mobs here and there, but otherwise just a bunch of empty spaces to run around. I can understand the concept of testing systems and that things will lack polish, but how about making an attempt at creating a patch of the environment with the density of mobs and gathering nodes that players are intended to experience when the game goes live?

Also, the gear dropped from mobs, or lack thereof, seems pretty dissatisfying.

The point of an alpha should not be TO GRIND, and yet that's what many of the players seem to be doing to level. They should be making leveling and gear drops come quickly, so that there is a greater chance of any one item, and different areas of the world that require different character levels, to be tested. Steven Sharif's already said that this is going to be a "true alpha," which sounds like he's saying that your satisfaction and enjoyment of the pace of content is not what's being tested. They should be accelerating virtually everythiing so that people can test the systems, not making people grind mobs to level or run around for hours to gather a few materials for a single crafting quest.

Furthermore, the developers have laid out their intention to make the alpha "as persistent as possible." Why? It's an alpha. They would be learning much more by resetting players frequently and having them level again and again, by some different path or as a different character, every couple of weeks (a Wek a week... make that a slogan). It seems... lazy of them, and a disservice to people who paid money to Intrepid Studios for the opportunity to help debug their product.

I will grant, there are bugs and idiosyncracies that can only be teased out by grinding. I say so as a developer of a different sort of software which runs on GPUs (we had to grind for more than thirty GPU-days before we could establish that there was a bug lurking somewhere in there, and once we had the scent we were able to hone in on it and solve it). But there are SO many bugs to find, and there's only so much that an be learned by making players constantly eat and drink or wander around or kill multitudes of similar mobs to gain experience. If there's a bug in the resting XP system (WoW veteran detected...) then it's probably going to show up just as easily if mobs are granting 1500 XP per kill than if they are granting 50. And if there's a bug in the graphics for celebrating your character leveling up, or in the way the overturn auto-unlocks and enhances certain abilities, it's much better to have more level-ups, not less, in the alpha phase so that more and more situations can be encountered.

Make things progress faster, so that more bugs can be encountered more quickly. Otherwise I'd just as soon go back to WoW and resume farming mounts (with no hope of catching up after a four-year hiatus, now that so many limited-time rides have gone by). The alpha is not polished, I get that. But until he game is polished it's impossible to know if I would enjoy running around and farming mobs or picking flowers for an evening. It's also useless to make players grind mobs to level, as if that's helping to polish the mob XP and attack damage against players of a given level. We're way from that point. So, until there's a much greater degree of polish, Intrepid should be showering players with lucky drops, a glut of XP to level one character and then a few alts, and plentiful gathering nodes in many places or juxtapositions with terrain they might be thinking of carrying over to live.

I look forward to writing more complaints if and when I enter Verra. I would especially appreciate care packages for articulate and thoughtful reviews. Epic staff, please.

they shouldn't do anything you think they should do, since they are the ones who need to test certain things about the game.

also, I invite you to read the purposes of each alpha phase. phase 1 is clearly aimed at testing servers stability, not progression.

also, mob drops is fine, I get items all the time lol

Aszkalon

Noaani wrote: »

Does attacking work?

Thanks to me having played MMO's in what i call " ALMOST BRAINDEAD-Mode " for Years and Years,

i somehow - SOMEHOW - managed to miss that there is an Auto-Attack Function until i was Level Six.

Now Please all Point with your fleshy, living Fingers onto this wannabe-undead Edgelord and laugh.

Yes. Attacking does work.

. 🫡 🫡 🫡

Noaani wrote: »

Do you gain experience ?

Even a Plebeian like me does indeed gain Experience in the Alpha Two.

I ran around in Lionhold like the Village Idiot that stepped through the Portal through Verra and choose to try his best as a Hunter.

After - SEVERAL. - LOOONNNG. - HOURS. - i finally managed with my "mushy-brained Baloney brain" how i get my Horse.

I struggled to understand even every single Quest-Sentence -> which i think is good -> because Questing has been dumbed down SOOO. MUCH. indeed over the Years in Worst of Warcraft which i always played,

-> it was actually a Challenge without serious Quest-Markings on the Minimap and in the ingame-World, to do exactly what i was told to do.

- So i chopped the Wood.
(ran to the WRONG. TREE's AT FIRST by climbing up a freaking MOUNTAIN WALL on the West in Lionhold,)

- prepared the Oak Wood, Timber-Wood, whatever-Wood - after SOMEHOW miraculously getting the Wooden(?) Novice Craftsmanstation to work,

- then mined the Stone,

- opened up the Option Menu and "WIDENED MY U.I. TO THE MAX" -> because my Eyes started to really itch, sting and burn from the microscopic tiny Windows and Texts which were as huge as the Micropenis of an Activision Blizzard Developer from California,

then were stuck at the "STONE-MASON-RY" Crafting-Station for SEVERAL. HOURS. (!!!!!!) because now the goddamn Window to "START JOB" to prepare the Stone into Stone-Blocks was to huge and the "BUTTON" to start the Job was below the lower Edge and Border of my Screen,

-> meaning i had to pull it up first after noticing the Problem SOMEHOW after a long and irritating, no in fact INFURIATING TIME of Hours who flew by, ( heheheheheheheheh ^.^ )

- " THEN " i finally had the Blocks, which i would loved to LITERALLY SHOVE this annoying, constantly annoyed and pissed-sounding NPC Dude down his Throat,
( i mean he is right ^.^ many People who come from the Portal ARE freakin Dunce's - including me ^.^ )

- then i cut some adorable Flowers,

- made them into Powder with the last Crafting Station stationed in Lionhold,

- got my Horse which unironically is the MOST UNREWARDING FEELING EVER because it can not even move faster than my Character can sprint - and i suffered as passionately to get like a freakin' "KUTHITE" from Pathfinder-DnD or whatever their Fantasy-Universe is,

and then,
when i FINALLY REALISED,

that i was slowly about -> from evolving into a complete f~in Idiot into a young, lowly Noob ^.^ - i realised that even i - can in fact gain Experience.

OHHHHHHH how that Questchain boiled my Blood.

Noaani wrote: »

Does the server queue system work ?

At the End of Friday and around Saturday i was for a short while in a few Que's. But nothing that felt longer than the likes of Ten to Fifteen Minutes. THANKS "The Others". I admit i didn't look at the Clock.

Noaani wrote: »

Does the character creator work?

Yes.

I made my Character a blond Guy with a short, decent Haircut and tiny Beard. ( Kae'lar Human )

But since my Graphic Card is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuumble "NVIDIA GeForce GTX "1060" 6GB", even as i intend to upgrade in the next Weeks,

my Characters Looks phased out -> my Armor phased out to a huge Degree -> and the other Players also looked a tiiiiiiiiiiiiiny little bit like Ghosts.

I realised that i am an inferior, lowly Human Being regarding Graphic Card Power and i need to evolve.

Funfact !!
I can run Worst of Warcraft with this Graphic Card on middle to upper middlefield Settings.

Noaani wrote: »

If you noticed any of these either working or not working, then you tested a system.

This is an alpha test, your expectations are clearly that of an early access game.

I was in this "nice, sweet Loop" of suffering and trying to PUSH my Brain which got weakened from many Years of playing lazily made MMO's,

and i thought for awhile that i may experience Bugs i should probably report. But NO !!!!! It wasn't Bugs. I was just to stupid to understand everything from the get-go ONCE again !!

. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ .

This was actually not so bad.

I feel that i get LITERALLY (figuratively) whipped into shape again. ESPECIALLY my poor Brain which suffered an enormous lack of being challenged and encouraged to pay Attention and understand things.

Damn.
Feels like we are back in actually Fun MMO's, my Friends. Feels like we are BACK !!

Noaani

Aszkalon wrote: »

But since my Graphic Card is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuumble "NVIDIA GeForce GTX "1060" 6GB", even as i intend to upgrade in the next Weeks,

Many people here like to talk shit about how long Ashes has been in development already - your graphics card is older.

That is an 8 year old graphics card, my dude - and it was mid tier when it was released.

The fact that you can run a game released in 2004 on a card released in 2016 isn't a surprise - the fact that you are trying to run a game that is likely to release in 2026 on that same card kind of is.

If your feedback on this is that the game doesn't run well on a graphics card that is below the minimum required specification (which is a GTX1070) for this alpha test, then I'm sure that will be appreciated feedback.

Edit to add, if this game doesn't release until late 2028 (which is possible), then your graphics card was released closer to WoW's initial release than to that release date for Ashes.

Ludullu

Depraved wrote: »

also, mob drops is fine, I get items all the time lol

If anything, there's too many damn drops. And not just common shit either. Definitely should be changed in a later stage of A2.

Telandras

Noanni, I'm going to just hand this one to you. I will avoid this alpha, and the game generally when it comes out.

As I've told you many times, I expected to come ot this alpha and die to the lag boss, fall through the floor, have login issues, etc. I expected no more than they promised, to see about 5% of the map and maybe fight 2-3 of the big bosses with my toon running in place. You have ben very persistent in accusing me of being some sort of moocher, just here to play a game, whereas somehow you apparently are a better breed who have the right mindset about this. I don't know what I could say to convince you that I wanted to be a testor in this thing, that I ENJOY testing and finding bugs. But, what I'm seeing of the alpha is that there is just not much to do, and to the extent that there is something to do it's stuck behind a 100-hour wall of mindless grinding, which is not necessary for a game in a developmental phase.

But, whatever. I'm done. I have a job and it's more enjoyable than this looks like it could ever be, if I have to have some cheetos-munching twerp strawmanning my discussions and being accusatory no matter what I say. If you've spent more than $120 and feel proud of yourself, then go do the world (of Verra) your amazing service.

Noaani

Telandras wrote: »

I don't know what I could say to convince you that I wanted to be a testor in this thing, that I ENJOY testing and finding bugs.

I can see that you want to do that - but I can also see that you want to be a content tester.

The kind of testing you seem to want/enjoy is late stage beta testing, not early stage alpha testing. These are vastly different things.

I'm telling you this so that you have the information that you may need in order to know when you are likely to get the kind of thing you want, not to stop you testing now (that is up to you, I don't care either way).

RocketFarmer

So with the performance issues you can either run around in a barren world or not run around in a world full of stuff. Stuff that brings the server to its knees. The “things” are assets that use server resources. So full world = system crash. We aren’t there yet, obviously. We partially full world with a fraction of players and routinely crash.

Xeeg

Telandras wrote: »

The point of an alpha should not be TO GRIND, and yet that's what many of the players seem to be doing to level. They should be making leveling and gear drops come quickly, so that there is a greater chance of any one item, and different areas of the world that require different character levels, to be tested. Steven Sharif's already said that this is going to be a "true alpha," which sounds like he's saying that your satisfaction and enjoyment of the pace of content is not what's being tested. They should be accelerating virtually everythiing so that people can test the systems, not making people grind mobs to level or run around for hours to gather a few materials for a single crafting quest.

I thought this exact same thing until I started to really play the game. I know people keep saying that this is a test and not to "play". I fell into the same trap of thinking, and just wanted to skip all of this stuff and reset as required. But one of the core things they are testing is "where is the fun?".

I found myself joining up with randoms and roaming the map looking for grind spots. Looking for places to harvest my first daffodils and granite rocks. And I found myself enjoying my time doing that. In fact, I had an absolute blast!

Alot of the barren spots that I perceived earlier ceased to look like that. Instead, they looked like ways to get in and farm a couple nodes without agroing any mobs, or space available to kite mobs or run away completely when overwhelmed. They looked like ways that a solo player or a big group could still enjoy the content.

I hope that they keep and improve on the current design. The more I played it, the more I saw the utility and fell in love with it.

Telandras

OK, I apologize, Noanni. Thank you for clarifying. I think, to a degree, we are miscommunicating, and if I am misreading the "alpha II" I would ask that you grant me a measure of grace here: Intrepid advertised "a true alpha," no doubt, but they also advertised the rudiments of questing, crafting, nodes, a couple of end bosses, some dungeons, multiple classes with some degree of development in terms of their skills and themes (each has been shown on a monthly livestream). It's somewhat ambiguous, in that this is an "alpha II" following the "early alpha" some years ago. So where does that leave us, and what should we expect?

My suggestions / gripes focused on the notion that grinding isn't the best use of testor time. If they want to stress test the servers, they can still let people kill mobs or level faster, go further. As long as the testors are playing and interacting, that will be stress-testing the server, and as I've said leaving me with only an option of grinding goblins in a dense patch is not encouraging me to engage. If, as Ludullu says above, gear is dropping at a good clip, then I suppose I can be happy with that--as long as I can kill stuff the levels can come at whatever pace.

I also don't want to be too hard on Intrepid--having my own code in "alpha" release due to publishing considerations (had to open-source in order to get the first paper accepted), I have a few features and some very impressive systems (patting myself on the back) but not a lot peeps can do. On the one hand, Intrepid is a company of 75 or so employees (IIRC), and they've been at it for some time, but on the other even if 500 people bought keys to the Alpha II waves that $60,000 would provide for their operating costs on the order of a day. I'm content to be the flea on the tail of the dog. I'm not trying to suggest that I got scammed, just expressing a degree of disappointment and suggesting something minimal they could do to improve the pace of testing. If you think my expectations are too high, I respectfully disagree, but improvements in the coming weeks may smooth it all out anyway.

I suppose, if we draw a line between the "feature complete" state that they've set for themselves by the end of this Alpha in summer 2025, there will be a series of significant upgrades in terms of things to test over the coming months.

Noaani

Telandras wrote: »

I would ask that you grant me a measure of grace here: Intrepid advertised "a true alpha," no doubt, but they also advertised the rudiments of questing, crafting, nodes, a couple of end bosses, some dungeons, multiple classes with some degree of development in terms of their skills and themes

I would be interested in specifically where you got this.

Keep in mind though, all of the above is in the test. There are quests, there is crafting, there are nodes, there are bosses. None of that is what this test is about, but they are all there.

I'm not trying to suggest that I got scammed, just expressing a degree of disappointment and suggesting something minimal they could do to improve the pace of testing.

There is no particular reason to speed up testing.

It isn't helpful at all to compare things to what ever it is you have done or are doing. If anything, that is causing you to misunderstand. You may have had time constraints with testing or what ever, but that doesn't mean that Ashes has a bottleneck around testing time.

If that was a bottleneck for them, the easy solution to it is to add more servers (AWS are great at scaling up), and make it an open alpha test.

The bottleneck Intrepid are facing is that this company you mentioned has about 75 employees are trying to do what other companies do with 1,000 employees, and sub-contractors.

That is where the bottleneck is. That is why it isn't worth putting time in to a testing environment to make it more pleasant to test - that time needs to be spent on things that will make the end game better, not the testing environment.

Edit to add; perhaps a better way to go about this is to state - my expectation for this alpha, after many, many MMORPG apha tests, was exactly what we have had so far.

If your expectation was different, the issue is in what your expectation was. I don't know what your expectation was, and I don't really care (that's a you thing, imo). work out where it is that you arrived at that expectation and figure out if it was Intrepid, or a pre-concieved notion you had.

When doing this, just keep in mind, the expectation you should have had was what was put in front of you - you are not trying to find holes in that, you are trying to find out why that wasn't what you expected.

Noaani

Xeeg wrote: »

Alot of the barren spots that I perceived earlier ceased to look like that. Instead, they looked like ways to get in and farm a couple nodes without agroing any mobs, or space available to kite mobs or run away completely when overwhelmed. They looked like ways that a solo player or a big group could still enjoy the content.

I hope that they keep and improve on the current design. The more I played it, the more I saw the utility and fell in love with it.

Also; freeholds.

Blip

Noaani wrote: »

Telandras wrote: »

As someone who has bought a key for Phase II, the world that I'm seeing looks... barren. Large packs of mobs here and there, but otherwise just a bunch of empty spaces to run around. I can understand the concept of testing systems and that things will lack polish, but how about making an attempt at creating a patch of the environment with the density of mobs and gathering nodes that players are intended to experience when the game goes live?

Not a good idea.

If the game has full mob density, and a given class isn't up to standard, that class can't move around the world.

Full mob density around the fame world is something that should only happen when the class kits are 90% set in place.

Also, the gear dropped from mobs, or lack thereof, seems pretty dissatisfying.

Itemization is by no means finished. Again, each class kit should be in place before you worry about this

Remember, you are not here to play a game - your comments all make it seem as if you think you are.

True but it is stil valid feedback

daveywavey

Telandras wrote: »

Noanni, my current project is >310,000 lines of original C++ and CUDA. I don't do memes

And I do not wish to grind mobs for an alpha when the devs could just change a few tables and help me get to testing things. Here's where I am: I'm fine being killed by the lag boss, the floor boss, watching the ghosts of other players gallop in straight lines through walls, having my shots miss because the targeting fails. Having to dink away at mobs for hours on end, wander around in search of far-flung crafting materials, or wait on long respawns is not testing anything. I should not be having the problem that my gear is just not strong enough to battle mobs of a similar level, or that I did not pull them in proper way, or that my group needed a tank for nominal world map (non-dungeon) content. Those are all tuning and polish issues which, as you have said, are for a later date.

For now, leveling and killing should be relatively easy, and gear drops plentiful.

Just pointing out the Test Goals for Phase 1:

Telandras

OK, all well and good. My expectations, such as they were / are, arose from Steven Sharif's statements and material on the two hour Alpha II rollout video a couple of weeks ago, plus other videos released by the AoC official channel in the prior two months. In the above state goals, I do see "progression" testing but I'll also allow that it's priority 4 after scaling, stability, and performance (I presume, perf of the underlying packet algorithms, sserver meshing, etc.).

Noanni, I will grant that you are much more of an expert here than I. I haven't played an alpha, but I have played betas, and I dissect things ata very low level. In that spirit, I'd say my expectations and things I intended to do included:

- Level a few classes, and within each:
* Try the attacking, look for various rotations and see how the abilities mesh (this is not about "previewing" so much as getting a sense of whether the devs are designing the classes with good mechanics or not)
* Get up on a mob and zoom in close to watch the animations. Anything about the character or the mobs stand out?
* Try running, jumping, twisting, mounting and doing the same. Anything stand out about those animations?
* Watch the ability animations. How about the color combos, pace and persstence of effects? I'd do this for things that look like some effort has been put into them, but not things that look clearly placeholder. It's all WIP, but if the devs and artists have been working on something I'd want to write some feedback on that.

- Try some crafting. How does it feel with regard to bags, inventory, complexity?
- Try some resourcce farming and world exploration. Happy to do this on foot or on a mount. How do the various parts of the environment look, water effects and movement in the grass / trees? Again, trying to focus feedback on things with polish.

- Try the character creator a few times, explore features and see how different results translate into characters in the world.
- Try UI customization, if available. Can I arrange the bars in a way more to my liking? Can I resize or change the configurations of the health bar, the resource (mana) bar w.r.t. my main ability buttons?

Is that about right? I guess I shouldn't have led this post "world looks barren" but that was my first impression from the vids I was seeing of current alpha II testors. I still think that some of these activities, while valid, would be greatly expedited if I were doing it in decent gear. I can let the mob come up to me and pound on me a bit to zoom in an watch how the various animations are working together if I know I'm not going to go poof in three or four blows, as I was seeing with other alpha II testors.

Dygz

Betas are feature complete - mostly just bug hunting and squashing as many bugs as possible before release.
Alphas are still adding content. And Ashes still has a lot of content to add.

Telandras

I expect there is a lot of missing content--but how do my plans look as far as what I plan to test and how I plan to go about it?

Dygz

Sounds good. The devs want feedback on all that stuff.
Just keep in mind that Phase I is primarily about stability.

nanfoodle

I went from one end of the map to the other in the spot test. I spent hours just going around the map. It was mostly empty. I really thought after 8 years it would be allot more flushed out.

Over the weekend I just played by the quests and markers of POI on the map and all that empty space was not a bother.

I understand in A1, the tester said there was a main line quest that took you all over the map and it mostly got you leveled. That's missing from A2. My guess in all of this, is that IS is only showing us things that need testing and A1 tester tested the poop out of that.

So how much is IS holding close to their chest and how much is not finished? I hope it's not lot of the latter. But we do know for a fact, they are holding some cards we can't see in A2. IMO there better be allot of them

Noaani

Telandras wrote: »

Noanni, I will grant that you are much more of an expert here than I. I haven't played an alpha, but I have played betas, and I dissect things ata very low level. In that spirit, I'd say my expectations and things I intended to do included

My thoughts on this is that anything in regards to how things "feel" is too early in regards to feedback.

It's great to test out these things, and to take notes on them, but those notes should be more for your reference in terms of changes. Feedback to Intrepid in regards to how things feel right now are potentially counter-productive, but referring to your opinion on changes between how these things are now and how they are when they are in a state Intrepid want them tested has potential value.

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