Alt-Friendliness

Hey there!

I know, the game's lvling speed is supposed to be slow (and I like that), which makes it alt-unfriendly (I don't like that). To make it a bit easier on alts, I'd suggest having reputation etc to be carried over, and maybe have all your characters share a bank. In DAoC, you shared your cash even across characters of different realms, and that was in 2001 in an RvR setting, so I'm sure it'll work for AoC, too.

This will make sharing gear between characters easier, too, and why shouldn't it? It's me playing, I'm the same player, and this would make it a bit easier on me without removing the grind to 50 (clvl and crafts).

Shared bank would work with local banking, so you wouldn't be able to exploit the system.

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Andi

The thing is, Dygz, that this is an MMORPG. You really can't fit it into the same mold as, say, Baldur's Gate.

Dolyem

Another point. Alt friendly design potentially enables bots and gold farmers more efficiency if they can easily build up alts. Planting alts in several areas to quickly switch to different areas to gather or farm when their current spot is taken over or depleted. Not to mention ease of swapping between alts at different nodes.
If they have to focus on mains every time they get a new account after getting banned, thats more time they arent farming/selling.

Andi

Dolyem wrote: »

Another point. Alt friendly design potentially enables bots and gold farmers more efficiency if they can easily build up alts. Planting alts in several areas to quickly switch to different areas to gather or farm when their current spot is taken over or depleted. Not to mention ease of swapping between alts at different nodes.
If they have to focus on mains every time they get a new account after getting banned, thats more time they arent farming/selling.

Yeah, but the way to combat bots and RMT is having systems in place to catch them, and active GMs on the server.

Dolyem

Andi wrote: »

Dolyem wrote: »

Another point. Alt friendly design potentially enables bots and gold farmers more efficiency if they can easily build up alts. Planting alts in several areas to quickly switch to different areas to gather or farm when their current spot is taken over or depleted. Not to mention ease of swapping between alts at different nodes.
If they have to focus on mains every time they get a new account after getting banned, thats more time they arent farming/selling.

Yeah, but the way to combat bots and RMT is having systems in place to catch them, and active GMs on the server.

Sure, and designing the game in general to not make it easy to do botting/gold farming also helps quite a bit. To truly deter them, you have to make the time sink for them not worth the effort.

Andi

But you'll also make it harder for actual players this way. Why punish the good players who've done nothing wrong? I can't get on board with that philosophy.

Dolyem

Andi wrote: »

But you'll also make it harder for actual players this way. Why punish the good players who've done nothing wrong? I can't get on board with that philosophy.

I would argue that good players would be happy to put in effort for additional characters in an old school hardcore style mmorpg. "easy" isnt a core pillar of this games design.

Undead Canuck

They said we can have a comfortable amount of alts.

For transferring between characters, check this out:
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Banking

ruxa

GetClapped wrote: »

Been reading through a lot of comments from some players and it looks like this game (because of it's community) is heading STRAIGHT head first into the same mistakes every single other MMO that has failed did.

Every single response from you folks is to Keep it hardcore, keep things hard, ignore feedback "nothing is wrong" "this is the way it's supposed to be" etc etc etc.

I've got a newsflash for most of you, the hardcore types? The elitism coming from most of you? you are like 1-10% of MMO gamers out there. If you think this game is going "to be a hit" with the way it's currently designed? that's a strong no, it won't be. all of you are in for a rude awakening as well if things stay the way it is.

players just simply will NOT play the game.

Myself included, I love alts, i love having lots of them. Want to know why? one of the main reasons why is because AGAIN (because of the community) it's impossible to balance classes, and there always OP classes and incredibly weak classes. When players come to the forums to complain about it? folks like ALL of you say "this is fine" , so most of us go play another class. if that experience is going to be dreadful and not fun? then we won't play the game. it's very simple.

Altaholics are in the minority too.

If you don't play a game because it's not alt-friendly, you care more about that than you do about the core pillars of ashes. If that's the case, this game isn't for you.

Ashes shouldn't cater to as many people as possible, because then it will be shit.

nanfoodle

There is things Ashes can do to make things Alt Friendly without breaking the game.

Mardrik

I am hoping top see a Bank. where money can be deposited, and items. In a shared bar like eq2 had. Its not like that doesn't make sense from a roleplay perspective even. I also like that strongboxes could be made for bank slots that were very heavy to carry but had more slots. I would be surprised if that doesn't get included though. It is early days and at the moment content is not what is being tested. keep that in mind, not everything is in yet.

MissionCreep

The game is 100% confirmed to have guild storage which is shared storage assuming that your alt can join the guild.

The personal shared inventory would just be a matter of convenience, it wouldn't be un-balanced any more than guild storage.

Also on this issue: if you want your alts to play in different parts of the map, shared storage wouldn't help quite as much. I guess you could just run to shared storage at levels 10,20,30,40,and 50 when it matters.

What you want to "ban" is emailing gear.

As an altaholic, the only thing I "demand" from a game is letting me skip the tutorial the 2nd time around. And having the same Friends list, but that's almost universal. I can figure out the rest.

In some games I'd prefer to skip the (2nd) story quests if possible--depends on the game. Long annoying quests or unskippable cut scenes. Stuff like that. Even then, the 2nd time is fine. It's playthrough number 3 where it starts to get to me.

Edit: Oh yeah, or a hardcore mode with permadeath. That's like an alt. Don't make me re-do all that crap every time.

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