Duping on all servers - WIPE pls?

An arguement for why you should wipe DEV

1) most players who did not dupe are going to feel left behind and not bother with alpha, thus you're losing data.

2) most people not gonna bother to pvp since the dupers managed to secure BiS stuff from it or faster mounts, making others not want to ever participate and thus you're losing data gathering from it as well

3) the focus of A1 is server and stability overall prior before Phase 2 launch on Dec 20th which will be a new wave of players.
Let's put it to the test now with wave 1 and wave 2 on a wipe before dec 20th. More data to collect.

See how servers organically respond to the past month of patches, since there is no plunder quests, bunch of quest fixes, players having an understanding of nodes/building progression now - it would be provide a whole new data for you guys as well. Re-visiting and having more eyes on players now interacting with questing and events.

How or where will the playerbase move to grind, which work server will be under load during the initial 10 level stage.

I don't see the negatives for the DEVS perspective. I am sure many on the player side will find "negatives" because their pixels will be gone before they even get to use it - boo hoo, ty for exploiting, let's patch it n wipe.

I think it's very beneficial to have multiple wipes tbh. I believe once we enter beta, to maybe have 1 wipe in between b4 launch but until then, having multi wipes is fine. It also allows playerbase to try different classes from scratch as well w/o feeling "left behind". There are also a lot of net postives for the playerbase if they look for it and think bigger picture.

so, we can haz a wipe please?

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Its_Me

nanfoodle

Its_Me wrote: »

Woot hope they are naked

Uncommon Sense

Its_Me wrote: »

That's already a better response than the New World dupe fiasco.

kadimir

Uncommon Sense wrote: »

Its_Me wrote: »

That's already a better response than the New World dupe fiasco.

My personal hope is that instead of banning these players, intrepid revert their gear back to white, reset their crafts to 0, and put an un-removable stack of corruption on them for the next weekend or two. Also keep it so they can't trade and only common items drop for them.

make them punching bags for the server is probably more amusing a punishment for all of us XD

ModestVanity

I’m happy with the Team’s response. Time will tell if lessons are learned. But I think it’s appropriate and lets the community know that they have the tools to resolve these matters effectively. Well done.

Veeshan

Nathariel

novercalis wrote: »

Nathariel wrote: »

novercalis wrote: »

people hanging on to their dear exploited pixels.

you are looking the things only from 1 points. Do you know how long take for the people test the build and understand what are good and what no?!?! for example like is now the city and crafting station has no meaning to stay because now we have some apprendice workbench and we can craft lvl 10 items that are most of them usell because most of the people are lvl 20/25. But we need also to test what is not good and must be change or correct with more high build , if they make while we can't test more the build in city because i take 3 week to start to make the new build. More things we test better is for the test after the wipe of 20. I think the big reason they will wipe the 20 is because the strucure of the pg change with the new features they will release.

i still dont understand your broken english.

regardless - AOC wont be ready for release for 2-3 years. test building has LOTS OF TIME, now isnt the time for that. cringe trying to be "On TOP" in a alpha stage. Cringe for "Min/Max" during alpha.

there is PLENTY of time to test. Phase 1 = SERVER STABILITY. Wipe and put all the players back into Lionhold and make sure we dont crash it, it's playable, so when Dec 20th come, the population will be doubled and the server is ready for it.

You don’t understand my English, ok… but you also don’t know how to test. Resetting because someone took advantage of a bug is not a solution; in fact, Intrepid has taken action against them.
We are testing everything, not just stability. During the week, we test many things, and many of them are not related to stability. You are not in the PTR, so you don’t know many of the tests we perform daily.

Vhaeyne

I am fairly happy with the corrective action.

This whole event makes me feel like that kid from game of thrones who just wants to see people fall out of a hole in the floor.

I didn't see any mention of bans, but perhaps now is not the time for a heavy hand.

Rexxy

@Intrepid - Will you be posting a list of the 100 or so characters that have been deleted for duping? Considering this is a social MMO that requires a lot of player interaction, It would be nice to know the names of the players (and possibly guilds) that aren't so morally grounded.

Mordune

I am happy with the outcome as well. Intrepid took solid action and did not simply ignore the clear violations. With this action Steven has show that the integrity of the game is more important than keeping violators happy, regardless of who those violators might be.

kadimir

Rexxy wrote: »

@Intrepid - Will you be posting a list of the 100 or so characters that have been deleted for duping? Considering this is a social MMO that requires a lot of player interaction, It would be nice to know the names of the players (and possibly guilds) that aren't so morally grounded.

Haha I thought about hanging out in the starter area but tbh not sure if they are going to be there when they log in?

c0done

Uncommon Sense wrote: »

Its_Me wrote: »

That's already a better response than the New World dupe fiasco.

theres a huge difference in saying what people want to hear and actually DOING what people want to see...

nanfoodle

Thanks to Steven and his glorious team for setting things right. You are gaining more and more faith from gamers.

Crotchless

novercalis wrote: »

An arguement for why you should wipe DEV

1) most players who did not dupe are going to feel left behind and not bother with alpha, thus you're losing data.

2) most people not gonna bother to pvp since the dupers managed to secure BiS stuff from it or faster mounts, making others not want to ever participate and thus you're losing data gathering from it as well

3) the focus of A1 is server and stability overall prior before Phase 2 launch on Dec 20th which will be a new wave of players.
Let's put it to the test now with wave 1 and wave 2 on a wipe before dec 20th. More data to collect.

See how servers organically respond to the past month of patches, since there is no plunder quests, bunch of quest fixes, players having an understanding of nodes/building progression now - it would be provide a whole new data for you guys as well. Re-visiting and having more eyes on players now interacting with questing and events.

How or where will the playerbase move to grind, which work server will be under load during the initial 10 level stage.

I don't see the negatives for the DEVS perspective. I am sure many on the player side will find "negatives" because their pixels will be gone before they even get to use it - boo hoo, ty for exploiting, let's patch it n wipe.

I think it's very beneficial to have multiple wipes tbh. I believe once we enter beta, to maybe have 1 wipe in between b4 launch but until then, having multi wipes is fine. It also allows playerbase to try different classes from scratch as well w/o feeling "left behind". There are also a lot of net postives for the playerbase if they look for it and think bigger picture.

so, we can haz a wipe please?

wipe not needed, players got their characters deleted which is a hugeeee win. and gold reset to 0 for those players, as well as all dupped items removed. thats a big WIN for those you didnt cheat. better than a wipe

Ruerik

Rexxy wrote: »

@Intrepid - Will you be posting a list of the 100 or so characters that have been deleted for duping? Considering this is a social MMO that requires a lot of player interaction, It would be nice to know the names of the players (and possibly guilds) that aren't so morally grounded.

I think it would be cooler to use the Gallows that are in game by all the node town halls.

Let us throw tomatoes even

Vhaeyne

Many sheriff's put out pictures,names, and crimes of all of the people they bust in a major operation.

It's does some positive things I can think of:
1. Prevents some people from offending in the area where sheriff's do this.
2. Let's the local population know that their sheriff's office is doing good things for the community.

I would be thrilled to see it in a game as social as ashes.

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