Can we do something about Griefers ?

I'm on Shol server, this past two days have been an horrible experience. I'm looking to test Carphin Tower content, each time we go there there is one (1) player named Heiler from Standby Rubin guild that wants us to pay. We did not, he then proceeded to pull large packs of mobs onto us over and over again until we die. If we kill him we get corrupted, even if he dies from mobs, he's back within 2 minutes. He's at max level so doesn't care about exp debt.

I tried the day later, within 10 minutes he was here, apparently someone from our group was streaming. We moved to Gravespeak, he followed us all the way to grief us there as well.

I'm playing this game to test its content and provide feedback. I'm not interested in providing entertainment for some jobless loser. Want me to provide feedback about Carphin ? Well guess what every time I went there I got griefed.

I'm done playing until something is done.

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Sarkgp

There is currently no timeout in the game, which means that in PvP zones as soon as you look for action people run away and ALT F4, disappearing in your face as you hit them.

That loses excitement and seems totally dirty to me.

Sarkgp wrote: »

There is currently no timeout in the game, which means that in PvP zones as soon as you look for action people run away and ALT F4, disappearing in your face as you hit them.

That loses excitement and seems totally dirty to me.

To make it clear, the complaint here is that there is currently no log out timer and that player characters disappear from the game as soon as the player logs out, which makes it frustrating for anyone fighting them in PvP. Although risky, this could be abused in PvE as well.

The suggestion is that you should wait in place for a few seconds after trying to log out outside safe zones before actually logging out, and that if you exit the game by closing the client's window your character should stay in-game for a few seconds instead of disappear immediately.

nanfoodle

ALT + F4 out of the conversation. My question. How would you fix that? Having people crash and left in the game would suffer if you changed how long people stuck around when disconnected. Is there another way?

Tyranthraxus

nanfoodle wrote: »

ALT + F4 out of the conversation. My question. How would you fix that? Having people crash and left in the game would suffer if you changed how long people stuck around when disconnected. Is there another way?

Acceptable versus an exploit.

The game could also be coded to detect the difference between a signal-loss and a closure of the program. You might still get people pulling their modem cables, but it'd still be preferable versus insta-safety for program closures.

unknownsystemerror

They are aware of the issue and it will be eventually fixed. Before moaning about how life is unfair, check the wiki to see what the intended mechanics are for your latest "THEY MUST FIX THIS NOW!" rant. Would allow you to focus your outrage at testing an alpha client for those things that matter. Characters are meant to persist for a time on logout in the world. This was originally going to be only for those corrupt, because everyone knew those people were going to try and dodge a death. It will be expanded to everyone. Will people inevitably have some hilarious stories about how they logged out in town, and then came back dead? Sure. Intrepid has a lot of work to do on various systems, they will get there eventually.

There is a 60 second timer to logout while corrupt. Force-disconnecting the client during the cooldown will leave the character in-game.[23][49]

kadimir

Tyranthraxus wrote: »

Acceptable versus an exploit.

The game could also be coded to detect the difference between a signal-loss and a closure of the program. You might still get people pulling their modem cables, but it'd still be preferable versus insta-safety for program closures.

Ill be your tour guide to gaming history good sir,

1.) Lagswitching is a very long standing cheat that has been a plague in online games for a long long time.

2.) even if someone didn't want to set that up, simply disconnecting their internet/changing network is very quick and easy too.

If someone runs from pvp without flagging, not a whole lot you can do at the moment. IMO maybe an implementation that wont let ANY player log off/remains in the game world for 20 seconds after any Player vs player interaction on the receiving or giving end.

Untypical

Hello, Ashe community.

there is a general issue that needs to be addressed.

Some players are exploiting the game by leading high-level mobs to low-level players or aggroing a lot of mobs into parties.
causing their deaths without engaging in PvP and bypassing the corruption system.

There are two issues:
1. They steal the resources you farm,
2. They avoid all penalties for their actions..

Even with a grace timer, it is nearly impossible to respond in time when farming in remote locations.

This exploitation will likely escalate, especially once the rogue becomes available, with players targeting everyone.

Could you please clarify if, and how this issue will be addressed?

Many thanks.

Ebro Epaito

Someone once said "the greatest thing about MMO's are the people and the worst thing about MMO's are the people"
All MMO's have douche bag players, if you ever played UO prior to Trammel PK's were rampant and what's worse they would run with "blue" healers that would turn "grey" but it sucked getting PK'ed in a full loot game...

Untypical

it's not about PK, I support PK to the fullest.
it's about abusing the game and bypassing the limitations.
when the rogue comes out it can become a strategy if it's allowed.

Gizban

Mudkip is doing this on Lyneth at HH.
He's lvl 25, and was dragging multiple three star elites into our group, blinking away, and dashing back in to loot our corpses as soon as we got wiped.

Thankfully one of our party members was recording and so sent in a griefing report.

Untypical

pyreal wrote: »

Mudkip is doing this on Lyneth at HH.
He's lvl 25, and was dragging multiple three star elites into our group, blinking away, and dashing back in to loot our corpses as soon as we got wiped.

Thankfully one of our party members was recording and so sent in a griefing report.

how did he report I have some to report too, and the question is if they are allowing it as part of the game or it's considered bluntly griefing.

Savic Prosperity

Untypical wrote: »

pyreal wrote: »

Mudkip is doing this on Lyneth at HH.
He's lvl 25, and was dragging multiple three star elites into our group, blinking away, and dashing back in to loot our corpses as soon as we got wiped.

Thankfully one of our party members was recording and so sent in a griefing report.

how did he report I have some to report too, and the question is if they are allowing it as part of the game or it's considered bluntly griefing.

would be curious where you report it too
as for how its griefing, if they were testing the limits of the borked aggro system they would only do it once as a stretch twice, and frankly wouldnt really bother to loot peoples glint since if they were wanting to steal peoples glint or wanted the spot the system is intended for you to fight them in pvp not using mobs to avoid the corruption system

nanfoodle

Ya I have had a good time messed up by this.

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