Family Teleport

I think Family Teleport could work if it requires the person being teleported to have no gear or mats on or in their bags on teleport. If they're family then you're trustworthy enough to be lent some gear.

Also there has to be some extremely long lock timer for switching families. A few weeks minimum. And if you've been teleported you can't be again for 24 hours.

This way it is mostly only used by people planning ahead of time to grab their family/friends who can't log on until after the person or group has started farming/questing/PvP'ing or whatever, which is really the only way it should be being used in the first place.

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Noaani

pyreal wrote: »

A mule to hold your most valuable mats in case of node war failure might be worth it.

Assuming you mean a siege, I considered this.

However, players are unable to move materials out of a node once a siege has been declared - or so the stated plan goes.

If that is the case, the only way I see doing this is to move materials before the node is able to have a siege declared on it. This seems time consuming.

Uncommon Sense

The family teleport should be scrapped.

Teleport a friend once a week would be ok...

Flashfirez23

Uncommon Sense wrote: »

The family teleport should be scrapped.

Teleport a friend once a week would be ok...

Even once a week could cause damage. I think 0 fast travel is the only solution.

Uncommon Sense

using a 'friend' alt account to item haul would be the most significant problem...

But the logistics of moving large groups as guilds would be mitigated. In a friend to friend teleport where the friends must be friends for that whole week.

I agree it probably should not exist. But i'm think of a situation where actual friends (partners) might like such a thing. I know there is a planned marriage system,,, so Maybe a spouse teleport once a week. with the use being a single action between both.

Noaani

Uncommon Sense wrote: »

using a 'friend' alt account to item haul would be the most significant problem...

But the logistics of moving large groups as guilds would be mitigated. In a friend to friend teleport where the friends must be friends for that whole week.

I agree it probably should not exist. But i'm think of a situation where actual friends (partners) might like such a thing. I know there is a planned marriage system,,, so Maybe a spouse teleport once a week. with the use being a single action between both.

But that then turns the in game marriage system to be something that guilds will control for their members, so as to optimize the guild.

It will mean that when you join a guild, you are told who to marry. If you are already married, you will be told to get un-married. If the game doesn't have a divorce system in place, it means guilds that form at the start of thr game and so can maximize this teleport and its requirements will be exponentially stronger than guilds forming later on that can't.

Speaking from experience running somewhat dedicated guilds, if the only way to teleport in the game is via family or marriage, those guilds will control that aspect of their members gameplay.

nanfoodle

Noaani wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

Simple fix. People can only teleport to a family member if they are paying from the same credit card at the same billing address. They must be within 6 levels of each other. This would stop people dropping low level alts places to tp where they wanted.

Sounds like a great way to make multiboxing more viable.

Steven has already said he supports multiboxing if the person is really playing them.

I'm aware, I was a part of that discussion and poll. I have always had every intention of multiboxing this game - as I do every MMORPG I have ever played.

However, while it is allowed, Intrepid have no plans to actively support it. As soon as multiboxing becomes seen as the optimal way to play, there will be a riot.

I have played MMOs that had multiboxing. It was never a riot.

They weren't Ashes.

There was no real percieved advantage to having multiple accounts in a game like EQ. In Ashes, people think there is one (they are generally wrong, but being wrong has never stopped a riot).

The only thing that prevented this kind of thing happening in Archeage was the fact that the developer and publisher never claimed the game wouldn't be pay to win.

In Ashes, you have that situation where Intrepid have said the game is not pay to win, and you also have many, many people thinking there is a real advantage to multiboxing. If you then add in the notion that multiboxers get teleports and the vast majority of other players do not - yeah, riot.

You could also be 100% wrong. I have multiboxed for many years and more then a few MMOs. People I ran into were always happy to have a team. But keep making a big deal on a very small thing.

Noaani

nanfoodle wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

Simple fix. People can only teleport to a family member if they are paying from the same credit card at the same billing address. They must be within 6 levels of each other. This would stop people dropping low level alts places to tp where they wanted.

Sounds like a great way to make multiboxing more viable.

Steven has already said he supports multiboxing if the person is really playing them.

I'm aware, I was a part of that discussion and poll. I have always had every intention of multiboxing this game - as I do every MMORPG I have ever played.

However, while it is allowed, Intrepid have no plans to actively support it. As soon as multiboxing becomes seen as the optimal way to play, there will be a riot.

I have played MMOs that had multiboxing. It was never a riot.

They weren't Ashes.

There was no real percieved advantage to having multiple accounts in a game like EQ. In Ashes, people think there is one (they are generally wrong, but being wrong has never stopped a riot).

The only thing that prevented this kind of thing happening in Archeage was the fact that the developer and publisher never claimed the game wouldn't be pay to win.

In Ashes, you have that situation where Intrepid have said the game is not pay to win, and you also have many, many people thinking there is a real advantage to multiboxing. If you then add in the notion that multiboxers get teleports and the vast majority of other players do not - yeah, riot.

You could also be 100% wrong. I have multiboxed for many years and more then a few MMOs. People I ran into were always happy to have a team. But keep making a big deal on a very small thing.

Oh, I've run in to many people in a number of games that are quite haply to have someone multiboxing the tank and healer for a group, for example.

That isn't the point I'm making.

I'm saying that if Intrepid make the family teleport only work if both accounts to are paid on the same credit card and are at the same physical address, people would see that as being pay to win, because you can then set up a second account and give yourself teleport locations all around the world.

The miltiboxing aspect of it is just one facet of why people would complain about this - as multiboxers would have a definate advantage.

Basically, it means fast travel in Ashes is a $15 a month addon.

So yeah, riot.

nanfoodle

Noaani wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

Simple fix. People can only teleport to a family member if they are paying from the same credit card at the same billing address. They must be within 6 levels of each other. This would stop people dropping low level alts places to tp where they wanted.

Sounds like a great way to make multiboxing more viable.

Steven has already said he supports multiboxing if the person is really playing them.

I'm aware, I was a part of that discussion and poll. I have always had every intention of multiboxing this game - as I do every MMORPG I have ever played.

However, while it is allowed, Intrepid have no plans to actively support it. As soon as multiboxing becomes seen as the optimal way to play, there will be a riot.

I have played MMOs that had multiboxing. It was never a riot.

They weren't Ashes.

There was no real percieved advantage to having multiple accounts in a game like EQ. In Ashes, people think there is one (they are generally wrong, but being wrong has never stopped a riot).

The only thing that prevented this kind of thing happening in Archeage was the fact that the developer and publisher never claimed the game wouldn't be pay to win.

In Ashes, you have that situation where Intrepid have said the game is not pay to win, and you also have many, many people thinking there is a real advantage to multiboxing. If you then add in the notion that multiboxers get teleports and the vast majority of other players do not - yeah, riot.

You could also be 100% wrong. I have multiboxed for many years and more then a few MMOs. People I ran into were always happy to have a team. But keep making a big deal on a very small thing.

Oh, I've run in to many people in a number of games that are quite haply to have someone multiboxing the tank and healer for a group, for example.

That isn't the point I'm making.

I'm saying that if Intrepid make the family teleport only work if both accounts to are paid on the same credit card and are at the same physical address, people would see that as being pay to win, because you can then set up a second account and give yourself teleport locations all around the world.

The miltiboxing aspect of it is just one facet of why people would complain about this - as multiboxers would have a definate advantage.

Basically, it means fast travel in Ashes is a $15 a month addon.

So yeah, riot.

A family using family teleport that pays for multiple account to ay as a family wouldn't. Everything gets exploited, that does not mean people using it as intended should be punished.

Noaani

nanfoodle wrote: »

Everything gets exploited.

Yes, and this should be the main consideration behind game design.

Every mechanic and system in a game like Ashes should be run through the filter of 'how will this be exploited'.

The fact that a few may get good use out of it as it was intended does not outweigh the fact that many will exploit it for fast travel purposes.

It also does not outweigh the fact that people will look at this as Ashes turning in to a pay to win game - $15 a month for 7 or 8 fast travel locations around the world is a good deal.

Uncommon Sense

That's pretty much what it comes down to.

Its paying for a convenience. which goes against Intrepid very own No P2W in Ashes of Creation mantra.

the best thing would be to scrap it...

I was trying to find a possible compromise.

Ebro Epaito

I don't know...Id like to see a "recall" or Teleport spell like we had in Ultima Online...scribes could make recall and teleport scrolls and runes to "mark" locations. Im not sure Unreal 5 can support it though ...and I think the intention was to make travel mean something...as I run back and forth between Joeva and Winstead 2-3 times an hour......

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