Double-tap WASD to dodge

Wildstar Online had this amazing feature where you could double-tap WASD to dodge. This made fast-paced combat much more enjoyable, rather than having to click a specific key for it. It would be amazing to get a feature in the key bindings to recognize "double tapping" a key as a dedicated input mapping.

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nanfoodle

Yes pls that was the best thing WS did. Dodge always in the direction you want and that frees up keys for other things.

nanfoodle

This would also be easier then pressing two button to dodge in a direction you want to. One buttons and 4 dirictions you can dodge.

ItsNyx

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nanfoodle

ItsNyx wrote: »

Thank you for sharing your feedback with us! We'll make sure to pass this along to the rest of the team.

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Traulq

This would be fab; thanks for raising it, Brocknar!

MincVinyl

ESO also had this feature. In the menu you could enable/disable it. You could also adjust the double tap delay to avoid accidental presses.

Azherae

MincVinyl wrote: »

ESO also had this feature. In the menu you could enable/disable it. You could also adjust the double tap delay to avoid accidental presses.

Did it lead to any real netcode issues in ESO? I'm not familiar with it in that game.

Normally I don't like this in games with very high intended numbers of players in one space because it can get kinda fiddly or require some client-side stuff to actually feel correctly responsive, but I assume ESO would've solved it since they also have things like Animation Canceling.

MincVinyl

Azherae wrote: »

MincVinyl wrote: »

ESO also had this feature. In the menu you could enable/disable it. You could also adjust the double tap delay to avoid accidental presses.

Did it lead to any real netcode issues in ESO? I'm not familiar with it in that game.

Normally I don't like this in games with very high intended numbers of players in one space because it can get kinda fiddly or require some client-side stuff to actually feel correctly responsive, but I assume ESO would've solved it since they also have things like Animation Canceling.

No I do not think so or atleast there were no major issues with dodge roll. Actions like dodge or block would cancel the animations of skills or light attacks. Early on ESO had alot of client side actions...... which lead to Cheat engine users to play around. These actions were eventually all made serverside to prevent cheating. Which then lead to server lag/resource issues that hurt responsiveness of the whole combat system.

How ESO's combat generally works is off of a Global Cooldown system or GCD. So every second you can activate a skill. Separate from this is your left click light attack and left click hold heavy attack(charge up). Separate from that is your other core combat skills, dodge, block, weaponswap, CCbreak, Interupt(bash enemy casts).

Each second you can do the following in this order:

Light Attack or heavy (animations will be canceled by skills)
Skill
Core combat action

Why I really like AoC so far is because the combat is very similar action wise. It seems in many rpgs and mmos the goal to hit is a light-fighting game style of combat. However it doesn't follow a GCD system and instead has skill cooldowns, which doesn't have to be boring if done right. The only bad thing I can say is that inherently since light and heavy attacks can be canceled, slower swinging weapons will be vastly harder to use since players will have to be careful to not cancel their damage swings.

Note that core combat actions should always take priority to incentivize counterplay. If a less important action like a light attack or skill animation prevents you from easily blocking or rolling the game will feel clunky and combat will suffer as a whole.

nanfoodle

You can have dodge roll without cancelling the animation. They just need to be combined.

EDIT: I think how that happens now. It just would change how it's executed.

demonsblood

I second this, double tap to dodge can be seen in others mmo's including Guild Wars 2 and Elder Scrolls Online and works very well feels intuitive and would certainly improve the action cam targeting style in Ashes.

zintair

This would be great! I currently have it bound to shift and whenever I type and use shift it dodge rolls me lmao

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