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Andi

This is supposedly a female.

Where are her hips?

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Noaani

kadimir wrote: »

I wish you'd take a pizza' advice and remove your head from your lower GI track.

I mean, you introduces the pizza analogy - I just clarified how it should actually be.

As to the character creator in the video - the in game models and other assets are not yet at a place to be able to support it. This information is available if you spent time looking instead of complaining.

But hey, at least you know what is in store. Now your comments should be "I can't wait until we get this", as opposed to complaining about what we have so far.

Andi

Btw, this is a character with the current lighting ... chars need their own "torch".

Noaani

Andi wrote: »

Btw, this is a character with the current lighting ... chars need their own "torch".

Indeed.

Better lighting is needed, and no doubt will come in time.

Dezemi

kadimir wrote: »

They've made a very excited reveal of this part of their product 2 years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_PasE-_W6M&ab_channel=AshesofCreation

I think the CC that is featured in the video looks very good, and if that is where Intrepid is headed then I am sure it will be fine. And if not, well - then its good that people make their voices heard so that the input comes as early as possible.

That said, Intrepid please dont let hair disappearing when you equip a helmet be a thing during launch. X.x

Andi

Dezmerizing wrote: »

kadimir wrote: »

They've made a very excited reveal of this part of their product 2 years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_PasE-_W6M&ab_channel=AshesofCreation

I think the CC that is featured in the video looks very good, and if that is where Intrepid is headed then I am sure it will be fine. And if not, well - then its good that people make their voices heard so that the input comes as early as possible.

That said, Intrepid please dont let hair disappearing when you equip a helmet be a thing during launch. X.x

Unless this video includes the female characters - which seems to be the case right now.

Andi

So, I'd like to once more make visible what I think is a lighting issue. Look at these screenshots.

World of Warcraft:

Everquest 2:

Black Desert Online:

Guildwars 2:

What do all of these have in common?
They stand out. The characters themselves are lighted up and are clearly visible.

Now compare this once more with Ashes of Creation:

For one, the character itself is dark. It doesn't deliver a contrast to the landscape, and you can't make out details. You can't zoom in far enough to really see the character well, either. Even though characters right now are ugly and buggy, your character is your avatar in the world and should be perfectly visible at all times.

Another point of critique is how far you can zoom out in Ashes of Creation. Sure, it helps visibility, but it also destroys immersion if you can zoom out so much, your char shrinks to a small clump of pixels. You can't zoom into 1st person view, either, which should definitely be a thing for people who want to immerse themselves in the world.

Noaani

Andi wrote: »

What do all of these have in common?
They stand out.

While I'm sure you are aware of this, I am still going to state it for others that are reading and may not be aware.

The games lighting is absolutely not finished - not even close.

As to your complaint about zoom level - immersion should never trump gameplay. Same with a first persom view option - I am of the opinion that a game developer shouldn't implement a gameplay mode that puts players at a decisive disadvantage.

The claim of "immersion" does not supercede either of these points - though this is far more important in regards to the zoom level than the first person camera option.

Aszkalon

Katzmeow wrote: »

I think you can have feminity with out going full out anime prostitue.

What i think what some People here mean -> is that they right now desire female Characters which look like highly curvy, hot - "well" -> Anime-girls, in Comparison to their male Counterparts.

Kinda like in an Asia MMO. Or maybe i am overdoing it with the Comparison, but in any case they want a greatly visible Difference.

I am still satisfied that we can finally test the Game at all ... ...

Vhaeyne

@Aszkalon

I understand that some people prefer the anime-style bodies, but that’s not what I’m after.

I’m strictly talking about proportions in this reply, not the faces or aesthetics.

Currently, there’s a limit on the proportions you can create in the character editor. I’m not sure if this is a deliberate design choice, but it undeniably restricts the variety of body types you can make.

These limits don’t reflect reality. I see better proportions on real people every day.

As someone who enjoys working out and sculpting my physique in real life, I know firsthand the time and effort it takes to achieve what I’d call a “heroic” form.

If the current restrictions in the character creator are intentional, it feels quite disrespectful to those of us who have worked hard on our bodies. It’s also disappointing that in a game where you can embody a hero, you can’t create a heroic physique.

@Andi

The lighting is quite buggy at the moment, and it seems to have gotten a bit worse now that they’ve added environmental fog. I’m not sure if they’ll implement character lighting as you’d like, since it seems they’re planning to use lighting as a gameplay mechanic to navigate caves and dark areas.

You might need to rely on a light spell or be illuminated by the glow of an enchanted weapon.

I understand your concern, but I think there’s a reasonable explanation for the poor lighting in its current state.

Andi

@Vhaeyne The character lighting isn't even meant to illuminate the surroundings. It should only show the character itself, maybe dimmed when it's dark, but right now, characters look like LotR Ring Wraiths, which is way darker than I'd make chars even in a deep, dark dungeon. Don't imagine it like a torch that radiates light beyond the boundaries of the character

Vhaeyne

@Andi

If you turn global illumination down the water near you will not be rendered. Your character may be better lit though...

Graphics settings are in a wild state and I have submitted bug reports detailing quite a few things that are messed up.

I could see a small patch fixing the lighting at any time.

Vhaeyne

GreatPhilisopher

i honestly dont have much hope of them changing anything, seem they wanna go ugly western dev style for the the characters and armors , this will never end well.

maybe i am wrong but considering what the base models and all they have for the characters/races/armors and how they been uglfying everything for the past years ...yea i really doubt it.

they adding 2 more races that will look just as bad instead of fixing whats already there ...

Aszkalon

This Topic seems to come up again ... ...

... ... ... WHEN* real Character Appearances/Looks ?

cosmichedgehog

I think it's pretty hard to balance what the developers want/intend, verses players' expectations. It's still pretty early in the alpha 2, so I do understand that things are in testing and development and the game is nowhere near what we will see at launch. That said, I do think this is a good time for players to let developers know what their expectations are. Particularly when it is based off things that Intrepid has said and shown in the past. I'm not saying that Intrepid is supposed to bow to player whims, I'm just saying that it's good for them to stay in touch with what their player base wants. It's not good for anyone if the developers and players lose touch. So far Intrepid seems to pay attention to what's said. They might not always do it, but at least it seems like they are willing to listen.

There, that whole paragraph just get here. lol. Since I'm not, as of yet, in the Alpha, all I've really seen is what people have posted... and some of that is just - yikes. Compared to what we were showed with the Character Creator screen a couple of years ago... Yeah, it worries me a bit. I like immersion, and I don't really want to be immersed with some of what I've seen. I'm trusting that will get fixed with time, but I want them to know I'm a little scared. I'm also not very fond of the female tulnar that looks like a chihuahua. Reminds me a bit of wow's female worgen when they were released. But I digress...

In terms of armor, anime, and sexual dimorphism, I have thoughts. I am a female and I play 99% female characters, usually plate wearers. I prefer more "realistic", or plausible, armor. I like a model that looks like she can actually carry around 50 pounds of armor, if she had too. I'm not totally against fitted armor and I'm even not totally against revealing armor. I like of mix of pretty and practical. But I'm not a fan of slut mogs just for female characters. If that's there it needs to be for everyone - male and female both get a couple of gum wrappers and some dental floss.

GreatPhilisopher

cosmichedgehog wrote: »

I think it's pretty hard to balance what the developers want/intend, verses players' expectations. It's still pretty early in the alpha 2, so I do understand that things are in testing and development and the game is nowhere near what we will see at launch. That said, I do think this is a good time for players to let developers know what their expectations are. Particularly when it is based off things that Intrepid has said and shown in the past. I'm not saying that Intrepid is supposed to bow to player whims, I'm just saying that it's good for them to stay in touch with what their player base wants. It's not good for anyone if the developers and players lose touch. So far Intrepid seems to pay attention to what's said. They might not always do it, but at least it seems like they are willing to listen.

There, that whole paragraph just get here. lol. Since I'm not, as of yet, in the Alpha, all I've really seen is what people have posted... and some of that is just - yikes. Compared to what we were showed with the Character Creator screen a couple of years ago... Yeah, it worries me a bit. I like immersion, and I don't really want to be immersed with some of what I've seen. I'm trusting that will get fixed with time, but I want them to know I'm a little scared. I'm also not very fond of the female tulnar that looks like a chihuahua. Reminds me a bit of wow's female worgen when they were released. But I digress...

In terms of armor, anime, and sexual dimorphism, I have thoughts. I am a female and I play 99% female characters, usually plate wearers. I prefer more "realistic", or plausible, armor. I like a model that looks like she can actually carry around 50 pounds of armor, if she had too. I'm not totally against fitted armor and I'm even not totally against revealing armor. I like of mix of pretty and practical. But I'm not a fan of slut mogs just for female characters. If that's there it needs to be for everyone - male and female both get a couple of gum wrappers and some dental floss.

well right now , there is no point of females existing in the game from models to armors in fact there is no point of a character creator with the abominations that's in it lol

Andi

Months have passed, characters still look terrible. Did they fire their art division?

Sneakypie

I agree. Simply put:

Give us the option to make Feminine looking females and Masculine looking Males.

Birqa

simply put.
we want that character creator shown long time ago so we can make us look the way we want.

phase three i guess

Andi

I'd also like to be able to see my character clearly ingame. It's a dark shadow. Compare your char in any other MMO, and in Ashes. In Ashes, it blends into the environment, it lacks lighting.

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