Solo Difficulty

It's ludicrous how difficult leveling is on your own. Not even considering the quest bugs that make the quests 100x slower, mobs are insanely dangerous and the spawn rates are high on top of that - so not only am I fighting for my life, but I'm probably going to be ambushed by a random spawn to ensure my death.

Questing should be the easiest and most fun content, yet I'm forced to consider just grinding down mobs in a group just to get a level. This is simply not an acceptable game design. Any casual solo player should be more than capable of picking up a quest and completing it for good XP and unique rewards.

If this is too much to ask, then this game is dead on arrival and not worth investing time in, because currently, casuals will be met with an immediate wall of difficulty that's going to turn them off within an hour of playing the game. It's simply not acceptable.

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Lucascp92

+1
They should have both quests that u can do solo and group quests with the best reward to encourage to team up with people, simple as that.
The current system will kill the game, I hope they read all the complaints about it and that they have in mind the good writing and doing of quests, even quests that help up to build nodes (cleaning the forest of bandits, kill a monster terrorizing the village or prepare to defend the city from a goblin army)
Imagination is our only limit, just not grind mindlessly

bigassgun

In before you guys complain about travel time from side to side. xD

DroneTheMask

bigassgun wrote: »

In before you guys complain about travel time from side to side. xD

tbh im okay with travel being a barrier. It should be in a social sandbox.

Mahes

Its not the difficulty of leveling that bothers me, but rather the boredom of it. I have waited 2 hours to get a group while slowly shooting mobs to watch my XP slowly(And it is too slow) rise. Lately I have just logged out after 30 minutes. I am too old to put up with that kind of design system.

The game is half based around PvP but most players are not going to start PvPing until they reach level cap. Why are they choosing to make leveling so difficult in that kind of environment? Make Item acquisition the group focus. If in groups or raids, you get the better items. Leveling should never be part of the struggle(To this degree) in a game where most players will want to be max level first before they play the other half of the game(PvP).

Sylverwolf

I understand that everyone has different skill levels, but I don't have issues soloing. Most would probably consider me a casual player as I don't often do hard content, though I do play a lot.

I stay out of congested areas, and I haven't done any dungeons yet. I've only grouped about 1% of the time so far.

I don't typically pull more than one mob, I fight only those at my level or lower for the most part, minding my surroundings, pulling to a safe spot. It does take longer, but it's not difficult for me. I've leveled all classes to 10+ using this method and probably only die once every 3-4 levels or so when I'm not watching the spawn points and surroundings or someone trains mobs to me.

I judge how much damage I take from the mob, determine how much resources I use fighting it and adjust accordingly so I rarely have to rest. If I use up too many resources during the fight, I find mobs a level lower and re-evaluate.

I'm using all common gear, mostly bought from the vendor.

So, although it is slower to level than others that group, it is do-able and fun for me.

Mahes

Sylverwolf wrote: »

So, although it is slower to level than others that group, it is do-able and fun for me.

We will have to agree to disagree as to what fun is. I do not mind killing mobs for XP but when it is hundred+ of them per level, it gets old.

Sylverwolf

Mahes wrote: »

Sylverwolf wrote: »

So, although it is slower to level than others that group, it is do-able and fun for me.

We will have to agree to disagree as to what fun is. I do not mind killing mobs for XP but when it is hundred+ of them per level, it gets old.

I've played MMOs for 25+ years and I enjoy the grind. I'm not in a hurry to level; I spend a lot of time gathering and exploring too. I understand that's not everyone's cup of tea though.

DroneTheMask

Sylverwolf wrote: »

I understand that everyone has different skill levels, but I don't have issues soloing. Most would probably consider me a casual player as I don't often do hard content, though I do play a lot.

I stay out of congested areas, and I haven't done any dungeons yet. I've only grouped about 1% of the time so far.

You obviously haven't done a lot of quests, which lead you to dangerous POI's.

Of course it's 'doable' to mindlessly grind one mob at a time, but:

Its lazy game design if this is the most a solo player can do.
It's boring as hell.
It's slow as hell.
I may as well just do that with a party.
I may as well just play another game entirely.

Chicago

Would be better if gear wasn't locked between 10 level variants, makes leveling feel really tedious

mmo_meditation

I´ll have to agree with Sylverwolf. I am playing solo a lot and am enjoying it. It is demanding at times, there are a lot of bugs but this is what i expected. Difficulty level is perfect for me. If an area gets too hard for me, i´ll revisit later after gaining a few levels. Dungeon areas are meant to be played by groups. So for that i group up. There are way more Quests already than most expect. I´m always stunned when i see people grinding a spot where i am searching for quest items and they never even heard of the Quest. If you want to level fast it will be a mindless grind because than you will have to mob grind, either solo or in group. Solo grind doesn´t have to be slower, but it needs skill to find the best spots and being able to AoE grind (which i´m constantly failing - but ppl are doing it)

I would recommend though to join a guild. As a solo player you might want to join ours. It´s called "Solo". cheers

Holoytype

I'm going to have to agree with mob difficulty in the starting areas. Trying to solo most things on a fighter I just end up dead if i accidently pull more than 2 mobs and forget about the elites. Mindlessly grinding mobs is a fine way to level I guess but if you can only pull 1 at a time and get completely decimated every mob I'd say that's just bad design, this isn't dark souls.

chickengeorge

Unfortunately Steven is designing a game heavily based on PvP and grouping. I've pretty much given up on it and stopped playing. I frequently only have 30-60 mins to play, not suitable time to join a group. I'll probably give New World a shot.
I'll check back on the forums from time to time to see what's new.

Copperfield

i stopped playing aswell... and hope they adress issue about solo levelers

lukedawuke

go get your "quick fun" at WoW or some other theme park mmo

TTNLBTPD

It joys me to see some of you quitting. You should have never been here in the first place. You bought a game based on hype not understanding what it actually was. The mindless grinding of BDO is where you belong. You can solo groups of mobs there all day...

Spif

All opinions should be welcome here. Insults are not helpful to development.

For the OP: I felt similar to you during my first shot at the game in P1, with regard to difficulty. Then I learned a lot more about the game mechanics and how to setup "combos" and stack damage (solo). During P2 dying has been rare, and mostly in a group with bad pulls.

Steven has said that the game in it's current state is hardest on the solo player, and that should get easier as more content is added.

chickengeorge

TTNLBTPD wrote: »

It joys me to see some of you quitting.

I bet you're a joy to be around IRL.

Copperfield

Spif wrote: »

All opinions should be welcome here. Insults are not helpful to development.

Steven has said that the game in it's current state is hardest on the solo player, and that should get easier as more content is added.

i have hope for this.... currently its not solo friendly

DroneTheMask

lukedawuke wrote: »

go get your "quick fun" at WoW or some other theme park mmo

Incredibly self-absorbed take. Sweats need casuals for a healthy economy in an MMO. Additionally, my post wasn't even about 'quick fun'. I don't play an MMO for 30-60 minutes. I will usually play for a few hours every day.

DroneTheMask

TTNLBTPD wrote: »

It joys me to see some of you quitting. You should have never been here in the first place. You bought a game based on hype not understanding what it actually was. The mindless grinding of BDO is where you belong. You can solo groups of mobs there all day...

I guess you cant read. I was complaining that a mindless grind was the only viable leveling option.

Try to read.

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