Major Graphic Upgrade Needed.

1970merlin

The game is horrible to look at long term.

When I first started testing on Dec 20, I thought the graphics where ok. But after playing a while I think they are pretty horrible and I never cared much at all about graphics. If I, a person that cares little about graphics find them bad, I wonder what others think.

This needs to be fixed before launch. Maybe it doesn't matter right now, but really it has to be upgrade. I hope there is a plan for this.

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TheDarkSorcerer

nanfoodle wrote: »

TheDarkSorcerer wrote: »

I am a fan of AoC. But games like New World are way ahead in graphics over Ashes. I recently started playing New World on console. The world is beautiful and so lush. Ashes look very flat in this Alpha stage and very different from previous showcases.

Sure let's compare NW that's on Lumber yard engine and released to Ashes on UE5 when it's released lol. We're not even in the middle of A2. They are focused on adding all the system, not graphics at the moment.

The overall rebrand of NW and the launch on console is quite impressive. No performance issues. The world, nature and foliage renders beautifully.

eatefreeland

1970merlin wrote: »

You would think they could do better with UE5.

I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and say they are trying to optimize the game as best they can. Most games that use UE4/5 are so badly optimized at launch and I'm hoping AOC is making an effort to avoid it.

crazysam87

You are confusing graphics and style. The graphics, even in alpha are actually amazing and surprisingly not too taxing. Chances are it's gonna look even better at launch. Now you real point is about the aesthetic or style of the game. It leans heavily on the realism side, much like New World and Throne and Liberty, just to name a few. It may look dull to some, but I absolutely adore it. It's gonna look like crap if your PC is a potato, though.

nanfoodle

TheDarkSorcerer wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

TheDarkSorcerer wrote: »

I am a fan of AoC. But games like New World are way ahead in graphics over Ashes. I recently started playing New World on console. The world is beautiful and so lush. Ashes look very flat in this Alpha stage and very different from previous showcases.

Sure let's compare NW that's on Lumber yard engine and released to Ashes on UE5 when it's released lol. We're not even in the middle of A2. They are focused on adding all the system, not graphics at the moment.

The overall rebrand of NW and the launch on console is quite impressive. No performance issues. The world, nature and foliage renders beautifully.

And yet you are comparing a game that launch in 2021, and now relaunched with a refresh and updates and telling Ashes of Creation to be as good as them now, when Ashes is just starting Alpha 2... you do you see flawed logic? Ashes is not even in the polish phase where most of the tuning for graphics come. Allot of what we see in game is just place holders.

Chicago

nanfoodle wrote: »

TheDarkSorcerer wrote: »

I am a fan of AoC. But games like New World are way ahead in graphics over Ashes. I recently started playing New World on console. The world is beautiful and so lush. Ashes look very flat in this Alpha stage and very different from previous showcases.

Sure let's compare NW that's on Lumber yard engine and released to Ashes on UE5 when it's released lol. We're not even in the middle of A2. They are focused on adding all the system, not graphics at the moment.

I thought they were built in the same engine, I don't know anything about lumber engine I'll check it out, I will say new world and ashes look very similar graphically, the big difference is new world is much much more immersive which hopefully comes with polish

Rockyfour

Graphics seem pretty great to me.

nanfoodle

Chicago wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

TheDarkSorcerer wrote: »

I am a fan of AoC. But games like New World are way ahead in graphics over Ashes. I recently started playing New World on console. The world is beautiful and so lush. Ashes look very flat in this Alpha stage and very different from previous showcases.

Sure let's compare NW that's on Lumber yard engine and released to Ashes on UE5 when it's released lol. We're not even in the middle of A2. They are focused on adding all the system, not graphics at the moment.

I thought they were built in the same engine, I don't know anything about lumber engine I'll check it out, I will say new world and ashes look very similar graphically, the big difference is new world is much much more immersive which hopefully comes with polish

Big reason Amazon games are a mess they made a buggy engine called lumber yard. Star Citizen uses it, that's a big reason why that game is such a mess of bugs as well.

GreatPhilisopher

yea sure its alpha but wonder how the streams looked like 100 times better with more beautiful , lush and vibrant colors

Dryadez

Real gamers don't care much about graphics. The game looks fine as is, I'd play it even if it had star wars galaxy graphics.

Chicago

Dryadez wrote: »

Real gamers don't care much about graphics. The game looks fine as is, I'd play it even if it had star wars galaxy graphics.

That's just not true, most gamers care about graphics even if it's not their number 1 prio

eatefreeland

Dryadez wrote: »

Real gamers don't care much about graphics. The game looks fine as is, I'd play it even if it had star wars galaxy graphics.

this was true 20 years ago. standards change, even for gamers.

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Deshidasha

I play on with max settings and high resolution on a 45" monitor and it looks gorgeous.

nanfoodle

jimmyhoffa wrote: »

Dryadez wrote: »

Real gamers don't care much about graphics. The game looks fine as is, I'd play it even if it had star wars galaxy graphics.

I want to feel wow. Now I feel blah and boring. After looking at this for a month it is just awful.

I keep seeing on these threads "real gamers don't care" or if you suggest an improvement "Its not the game for you." Or if you want to add to the game (not saying anything about reducing the PvP or systems) "Its PvP, its not for you.." This notion that adding to the game or suggesting improvements will hurt PvP is wacked. If suggestions to improve the game to get more players or player satisfaction are actually treated this way by Intrepid they will have failure. I hope Intrepid doesn't listen to these people saying adding things subtracts from PvP or wanting more should be ignored by Intrepid.

Graphics mostly come in the polish stage, wow will come. Right now they just trying to get all the systems in and working. Allot of the game is placeholders. Even the storms and rain are placeholders.

nanfoodle

jimmyhoffa wrote: »

I suppose they could leave the graphics as is if they think Gen X will give them enough players to sustain the game?

Your right, gen X don't cry and wine nearly as much. Thanks for noticing.

Laetitian

jimmyhoffa wrote: »

I suppose they could leave the graphics as is if they think Gen X will give them enough players to sustain the game?

I don't know what kind of superficial teens you're surrounded by, but where I grew up, young people still care about substance more than aesthetics. Weird flex there.

Not to mention this game looks gorgeous, you're just either getting overly distracted by a lack of minor short-range eye-candy that will still be improved as the performance gets optimised, or don't to understand that not every genre lends itself look like AAA single-player titles.

https://youtu.be/GnybRgoPac8?t=1545
(Open in YouTube for fewer compression artifacts.)
25:45
40:55
Not to mention the close-up renderings in the glamour trailers at 13:40 (which are admittedly not *super* relevant to bring up, but still. Just these first 2 timestamps are glorious already.)

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2357503626?t=4h2m05s
4:02:05
4:05:45
I'm personally also a huge fan of the environments like this in live already. But if you need the closeup eye-candy, you'll need to wait for optimisation, so it'll look more true to the YouTube Dev presentation above.

GreatPhilisopher

game looks and feels nothing like the streams which sucks , ya its alpha but even when it wont be alpha anymore i doubt it will look anywhere near half as good as it was in the weather or freehold streams

Aszkalon

TheDarkSorcerer wrote: »

I am a fan of AoC. But games like New World are way ahead in graphics over Ashes. I recently started playing New World on console. The world is beautiful and so lush. Ashes look very flat in this Alpha stage and very different from previous showcases.

I personally hope, that Ashes will also kinda implement "different Atmospheres/Skyboxes" a little bit, like in WoW. When i remember correctly, it was done a few Weeks ago kinda for the large Open World Instance of Carphin - and it looks great.

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