So how many still excited?

So we had a few Alphas now, with loads more info out there.

Taking how you felt, what 6 or 7 years ago, when this game was still in its infancy, how do you feel now about it?

For me, there’s a lot I don’t like anymore, but will leave that open.
I do think this game will end up with a very niche player base.

But more than happy to be proven wrong.

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Caww

Most of the info is in the nature of "these are placeholders - final to arrive later...", so really everything is still up in the air and too early to comment on much except that things are moving a little slow.

Xeeg

Nemeses wrote: »

So we had a few Alphas now, with loads more info out there.

Taking how you felt, what 6 or 7 years ago, when this game was still in its infancy, how do you feel now about it?

For me, there’s a lot I don’t like anymore, but will leave that open.
I do think this game will end up with a very niche player base.

But more than happy to be proven wrong.

I'm loving it, this game is awesome. I guess I'm the "niche player base". Are there aspects that I don't like, or think could be improved? For sure. But overall, the game meets my expectations.

I hated gathering at the start, thought it was boring. Now I see it as some quiet downtime to chat with guildies, help build nodes, possibly find some high rarities to store for later, and chill.

I love the combat system, and especially the player interaction over grind spots. PVX helps break up the monotony of hours of meat grinder combat. Sometimes other teams will come and try and take your tags, or try to train on you. Many times I do that to other teams, to try and kick them out and get a better farm for my team. It's alot of fun!

Same with boss farming. Sitting there for 20minutes waiting for a boss to spawn is lame, but CCing other teams and trying to mob train them and get them killed or before the boss spawns is alot of fun.

I thought caravans were boring and lame, but if I'm with a group we can chat and chill, possibly get some PVP in. If i am running solo, I can do some IRL chores like cooking/dishes, fold laundry, work out... Keeping the volume on in case I hear someone fighting. Actually pretty decent downtime in the game while still progressing.

So really, alot of the game aspects that i may have disliked at the start are now just different systems I can use when I am feeling like mixing up my content or have some other goals in mind. There is enough here that I havent been getting bored, and if one system is lacking at the moment, there is another I can join in and have fun.

Last weekend I was helping the guild get poop for their farm and gather mats for the node. Afterwards we went and boss farmed for a bit and got a bunch of good stuff for the guild. We battled a few other teams and got most of the boss kills! My char is already decently decked out so I am happy to help them get their stuff.

To me, getting max level and near bis isnt when the game ends, its when I can travel around the game and do lots of other activities than gear chase. I'm looking forward to more node related activities that can be good for a max level/geared character to do.

But again, I might just be a "niche" player.

Ludullu

I'm still in the relative TA for this game, though it's becoming more and more obvious that the target is shifting way more towards ganker pvpers and away from all the other types of pvp, pve or pvx.

We pretty much haven't seen the game at all at this point, because none of the deep systems are in the game yet and games are defined by those. We've heard endless promises related to those systems, but w/o seeing them AT LEAST IN PLACEHOLDER STAGE - it's really hard to say if the final version of the game will be something for me.

Aszkalon

Nemeses wrote: »

So we had a few Alphas now, with loads more info out there.

For me, there’s a lot I don’t like anymore, but will leave that open.
I do think this game will end up with a very niche player base.

But more than happy to be proven wrong.

Nemeses wrote: »

So how many still excited?

You know - "this" is why i was semi-begging between January to April or so -> to "Please LIE to me again",

like with the glorious Presentations from 2023 and so on. Like when everything looked so goddamn awesome, when the Freehold-Presentation came,

when the Winter/Hunter-Presentation came,

when the Game in the Presentations looked simply so goddamn-awesome -> that my absolute Mega-Copium-Hope is only -> that it WILL. LOOK. this great again, somewhere during Phase 3 or the Beta's - and Release,

i believed Sir Steven immediately when he said in the very early Months of this Year - that this is the worst State of the Game which we will ever see,

and i think it was before the Desert was completed - and before the monthly new Biomes and/or Naval Content was slowly starting to get patched into the Alpha 2.

There are " QUITE A FEW " awesome Games, which shortly -> ignited this only oh-too-cozy feeling inside of me, but they were all either Single Players or Multi-Players with only like Two to Four Players or something,

this feeling of " FINALLY " falling into a superbeautiful Fantasy-World again, where we can Quest, Explore, level our Characters : and have a very good time together.

And an MMO would be even better.

Because like Worst of Warcraft -> You can not "win" an MMO. It is never over. It is a Game which stays alive, especially for as long as the Community is still alive, in the Game.

And until now -> not a single Game could ever deliver this, for real. And Games like Heroes of Might and Magic were sadly no MMO's.

This here is an MMO.
This here is not turn-based.

This here will have Content on Land, plus on the Seas - and even below the Land in the Under(dark)ground of the World.

Especially the "START" of some Games, enchanted and fascinated me - back then.

" Silver ",
and/or "Dungeons(?) 2" or something,

when You enter these Fairytale-like Fantasy-Worlds and Area's suddenly - and You are in a cool World where You want to explore every nook and cranny - and want to master one or several Skilltree's - and simply have been a true Part of everything - before You one Day leave again.

I can't wait for Verra.

I can't wait for it's four different Seasons.
I can't wait for an ACTUAL WEATHER System. Storms, Fog, snowy Blizzards, desert-Sandstorms, etc.

People here in the Forum even told me about a FIFTH, magical Season. Ohh ? I am looking forward to it.

Node-Superpowers ? Node-Vassal System ?
Huge, epic Battles ? Wars between Cities ? City-Sieges ?

Hopefully,
gigantic World-Events as well.

Volgaris

6/7 years ago I wasn't excited at all lol. Unless there's graybox systems to show I generally don't take much note of games. So I'm more excited now than I was. I wouldn't say excited, but "cautiously hopeful" I guess.

The game is going to be what it'll be. I think we have a little sway in it's direction, but not much. Come beta we'll know if we want to play or not. As it is right now (or rather Jan for me), I won't play. But systems are being worked on, and added, so most I'll do is check in at the start of each phase until beta. If mid beta it's still heading int he same direction I'll probably drop off until well after release and hope for a Realm Reborn moment. If the game doesn't attract enough causals it will just be a few sweaty massive groups following around streamers. No way to know now though.

Biggest issue they have is keeping the game secure. With a game that's so competitive people won't put up with RMT, bots, hacking, exploits ect. I won't play if I see bots run amuck like Aion or Eve or well just about most MMOs out there. Or RMT sites selling gold, items, materials, ect... In a PvE focused game, eh, whatever, in this one though i'd rather smash my balls in a waffle iron than play against cheaters.

daveywavey

The shine has come off it during Shol, but that's probably just cos Intrepid decided to hate us for Shol.

Okeydoke

I'm still excited. Alpha 2 is not exactly what I envisioned it to be when I bought access years ago. The game itself is not turning out to be what I envisioned in some ways. But there's still a lot there that's either good or could be good.

With some of the revealed design intentions of other upcoming, potential competitor mmos, Ashes still has a wide open lane to be the game it's trying to be. Steven's been pretty lucky on that front.

There's still some big hurdles though. They either find a way to combat RMT or, yeah I dunno. People aren't going to stick around after the second time their caravan or node gets wiped by known RMT'ers who never get banned.

Still excited though. MMO's are still failing within months of coming out. Still wide open doors for someone to make a good one that could get traction, and actually lure in new players who want exciting, dynamic gameplay.

Volgaris

daveywavey wrote: »

The shine has come off it during Shol, but that's probably just cos Intrepid decided to hate us for Shol.

Maybe the make a world boss called Shol for us all to kill?

daveywavey

Volgaris wrote: »

daveywavey wrote: »

The shine has come off it during Shol, but that's probably just cos Intrepid decided to hate us for Shol.

Maybe the make a world boss called Shol for us all to kill?

On the very last day! A whole-server-wide event! Stress-test the hell out of it, one last time!

@Vaknar - Make it happen!

Vaknar

Thanks for the honest reflections here. Some turbulence can be expected when alpha testing a game. Still, we hear the feedback, and it is important to us. We're looking to make numerous improvements in the near future, and the team is working diligently on those.

Tune into this month's livestream for a look at what you can expect, and what our plans are going forward

Imanek

Here’s my honest opinion on the matter.

I’ve been playing consistently since Phase 1, with its ups and downs. I still remember all the streams, promises, and visual effects that got me dreaming. To me, Intrepid was a passionate young team determined to build an MMORPG that blends the legacy of the genre with fresh ideas.

From my very first steps on Verra, I was drawn in by the world’s unique atmosphere. Of course, the game is still far from finished. Key features are missing: vassalization, node stages 4-5-6, the economic system, dual classes, a dynamic world, and more. As long as these core systems aren't implemented, it’s hard to form a final opinion. But I still genuinely enjoy logging in, exploring the updates, reporting bugs, and sharing suggestions. Simply put, I feel at home on Verra because it’s where I truly feel comfortable.

Right now, we’re testing an evolving project. Alpha 2 was fairly solid overall, but the experience on Shol was tough. For some reason, there seemed to be a disconnect between Intrepid and the players, and no one really knows why. Still, I remain philosophical about it: it was a temporary server, and if things had to break, better now than later.

Recently, I tried out Chrono Odyssey to compare. What I’m about to say is purely my personal feeling. I have to admit the character creation in Chrono is excellent, and the game seems more advanced in terms of features. But beyond that… even in its current state, Verra offers a more powerful atmosphere. The environments are already beautiful and provide a solid foundation that will only improve in the months to come.

As for gameplay, I found Chrono's combat to be messy and unclear, whereas Ashes offers something cleaner and more readable. The classes, their abilities, and the spell design already have a strong identity. Building your village, exploring open-world dungeons, losing loot upon death… It genuinely feels refreshing to rediscover these long-lost elements.

Yes, we’re going through a rough patch. Some mechanics don’t work as they used to, and it’s hard to understand where things are headed. But despite all that, I still enjoy logging in. I’ve put in over 1,500 hours since October… and after what I’ve seen recently, I’m more convinced than ever that Steven and his team will get there.

So yes, let’s give them some time, stay patient, and avoid jumping to conclusions while the game is still in development. I had my doubts too but now, I know this is where I want to be.

And if a Community Manager happens to read this, I just want to say: thank you. Thank you for continuing to bring Ashes of Creation to life with the passion and vision of Steven and his incredible team.

MDS

Testing was awesome on Vyra. I tried Shol and had to take a break, its just not worth testing as is IMO. I tend to play pretty hard and I dont want to get burned out with frustration. Im still keeping in touch to see whats going on. Very excited for news on econ, classes and more. But you wont see me back till Phase 3. Fingers crossed it will be in a much better state.

Nemeses

Well, quite impressed with all the positive reviews, to that fact it’s may be a niche game, there’s nothing wrong with that, it’s all about enjoying it. The only problem for folk with niche games, is they tend not to be busy, but loads of games with small populations are still doing fine.

I really struggle to make my mind up with this game, I seem to slip to both sides of the fence on any given day.

My overall gut feeling is it will fail, but I'm desperately hoping it does not.

The comments here, really do add a positive spin.

So thanks!

Mag7spy

From what I have time to look at here and there game is going in the direction it should be going and pretty much what i expected. As well as the group i was playing the game with, year from now going to be pretty exciting to see where its at with how things work together.

nanfoodle

I'm happlly confused. Love the vision. I love the combat feel and that's hard to nail down. Love the classes design structure but the need love. The Confused with is the size of the world, needing 10k a server to feel alive. So that size of a population would require casuel players. Casuel make up most MMO population. But the game is so harsh when it comes to a casul players needs. This seems like a conflict in design. I can't reconcile this and I have tried.

Nemeses

nanfoodle wrote: »

I'm happily confused. Love the vision. I love the combat feel and that's hard to nail down. Love the classes design structure but the need love. The Confused with is the size of the world, needing 10k a server to feel alive. So that size of a population would require casual players. Casual make up most MMO population. But the game is so harsh when it comes to a casual players needs. This seems like a conflict in design. I can't reconcile this and I have tried.

This could be a massive issue this game from everything I've seen and heard, will not keep the causal player beyond the first month, maybe some will ;last 3 and that's it.

People that argue this point, just do not know MMO's, I've played this them since Ultima Online, and bar Conan, I've called them all in the last 2 decades spot on.

My gut tells me if they don't change the game to make it casual friendly, this game will fail.
It might be fun for the niche player, but even that, for how long, before not seeing others , or waiting hours for a group, will it seem fun?

I just want a fun to play MMO again, one that I can put 3 to 5 years into

Arya_Yeshe

I'm still holding off judgment until we see how everything fits together, especially when it comes to player-driven content. What really has me wondering, though, is how the average player is supposed to carve out space in a world without safe zones. With Ashes of Creation removing the usual safety nets, it feels like there might be less room for casual players to get involved without constantly being on edge.

When I talk about the lack of safe zones, I’m referring to things like destructible nodes, freeholds, and the risk of material loss. In most MMOs, the average player finds comfort in hoarding and building something permanent, but Ashes of Creation doesn’t allow for that kind of security.

So it makes me wonder: if everything feels temporary, like a sandcastle that can be wiped away at any moment, how will players find a sense of belonging or attachment in the world?

It’s hard for me to feel confident about AoC’s success when I start thinking about this.

Caww

Nemeses wrote: »

...... I've played this them since Ultima Online, and bar Conan, I've called them all in the last 2 decades spot on.

just curious what the call was on Ultima Online since I remember I lasted all of 3 minutes after getting non-stop ganked trying to get out of some starting city or something..... very bad PvP experience....

allimartinez324

I'm stoked for phase 3!

Yenn0war

Excited and happy about changes, I just don't see myself paying that much money for alpha. Back in the day, I used to be paid to test things, not other way around.

Still keep up with a changes and improvement on regular basis.
I am still excited about it...

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