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100% immune to damage DODGE

OrymOrym Member, Alpha Two
in General Discussion
Im not a fan of the 100% immunity to damage during dodge. Specifically being able to dodge a tab target ability that is locked onto you.
I think it creates a weird playstyle and a difficulty that is not fun. When I am fighting a mob as ranger for example I feel like I should dodge every time i am able to to optimize my gameplay and to take minimal amounts of damage.
For that to be semi satisfying the animation has to be PERFECT or else it's just frustrating when you dodge something that still lands because the animation and when the damage lands is off with just a millisecond.

I AM in favor of dodging action combat stuff like killshot from a ranger npc or to get away from a slam from a dragon.

I am aware that changes are coming and that there is some kind of PTR going on sometimes. If there is something you can inform me about dodge that I might have missed please do!

And please share your thoughts of dodge and if you agree or dissagree with my opinion.

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  • nanfoodlenanfoodle Member, Founder, Kickstarter, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Don't agree
  • SettiteSettite Member
    ^
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    What it does is make a game that is essentially a tab target game even in action mode feel a little more like an action combat game, and completely bypasses any notion of the game being hybrid combat.
  • Ace1234Ace1234 Member

    "Hybrid combat" exists on a spectrum and could mean so many possible things. It could mean
    - mainly tab
    - mainly action
    - a toggle that changes your abilities to a tab or action version (but incentivizing one more than the other)
    - a toggle that changes your abilities to a tab or action version (but incentivizing them equally)
    - Tab and action integrated (both have their own bespoke abilities)
    - Etc.

    I don't know what direction they are going, but something like Armored core 6 would be pretty close to "the middle of the spectrum" hybrid

    My opinion is that a dodge should dodge stuff, thats the point, and that there needs to be counterplay and depth to dealing with offensive tab moves, a dodge mechanic is one facet of that.

  • AzheraeAzherae Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I like having the Liberty to dodge.

    It costs stamina so to me it's just a balance question, obviously with a network-performance component, as OP mentioned.

    I feel that if you're having the issue of 'I should just use Dodge/Block whenever I can' in PvE, the problem might be with the quality of the PvE content itself, but obv this is bias from my other main games.
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  • OrymOrym Member, Alpha Two
    nanfoodle wrote: »
    Don't agree

    hm, okey. You don't feel a little bit silly dodging all over the place in a range vs range fight, shooting tab target abilities at eachother?
    Imagine yourself low HP and in a fight as range vs range npc, trying to time the tab range attack perfectly 30 meters away, i think there is someting silly about that and a playstyle that is odd and not fun. I would rather not be able to actively dodge those attacks and rely on my passive parry stats instead.
  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    As long as possible " I-Frames " are limited and not ALMOST unlimited like in DarkSouls, Eldenring, etc ... ...

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