FUN vs. Chore?

Maybe I misunderstood something?
But the new Crate system - that is mainly a way to earn gold right?
And the task is - make crate - transport it slowly in danger, and deliver and get reward - right?
Well that sounds boring and a time consuming chore to make gold.
Some will say, its fun because of risk of PVP? Like boring caravans..

Then why not just give more rewards for the fun parts? of the game.
PVP, PVE, Combat, Exploring.

Reward PVP - forget hauling crates - expand the PVP zones, and reward people for the "heads they take".
Of course varied reward depending on level difference and if the kill is new or the 10'th time you kill the same.

Why not STEAL something that is very popular in other games. - Extraction PVP game - in MMO form.
Announce an Extraxtion PVP event in a zone. All who sign up get to an instancea arena dungeon/area.
The arena has "crates" they can loot. Die in the arena, and you drop the loot from the arena and you are out.
Make different versions. Solo only 5-10 and 20 man all vs all. Groups only 3 man, 5 man, 8 man - and 3-5-7 groups vs each other. - Forget boring crate transports - this is fun pvp!

Reward the things that are fun, instead of having us doing boring time consuming chores and jumping through hoops.

For Fun PVE - make something to earn gold, for those who dont like PVP.

A - Large scale of the already good local events. - But instead of just a small area of Grems going amok, have event in larger scale.
Like 100 1* grems attack a node village. - Make guards vulnerable, so players have to help. If not enough players help, the grems kill all the npc's and then leave. All NPC and guards that die, will respawn in 1-2 hours. So players must defend the town. Maybe stations go out of order for a period if Grems win.
- Now replace Grems with other monster variants and highwaymen.
FUN! And reward all who help with glint or gold. - So earning rewards come through FUN gameplay, and not fkin running with crates.

B - Have random of the outdoor "dungeons" like HH or Oak announce an event 10 min before it happens.
Boost the spawn amount by 3-4 times the normal. Groups in the areas have to work as raids to survive.
It will naturally boost the earnings there, if you can make it. After 20 minutes, all spwn go back to normal.
- FUN!

Sure some will like the crate system.. But I think it sounds boring. And if the goal is to make risks, to earn rewards?
Well its not hard to imagine something more fun than building a crate and transporting it from A to B.
And also better ways to encourage to PVP or PVE events.

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Aszkalon

IMAGINE getting EXP also from mining Ores or chopping down Trees ... ...

Azherae

Aszkalon wrote: »

IMAGINE getting EXP also from mining Ores or chopping down Trees ... ...

You keep mentioning this... did they remove this from the game?

Do you want the values to be higher? What exactly is the reason you keep bringing it up?

Azherae

Depraved wrote: »

Azherae wrote: »

REHOC wrote: »

I get your point but I think it’s good for the game to have many different ways to make gold and interact with the economy. That way, people with different playstyles can stick to what they enjoy most, and the world feels alive because everyone’s contributing in their own way.

Crates aren't a worthwhile Econ Slot in Ashes, though, because Ashes has to generate so many growth/progression slots and it doesn't tie any of those slots into Crates in a way that would result in them being used.

That's the most obvious fault here, Ashes is a slow progression game so it needs at least a dozen 'Progression Econ Slots' before we even start talking about Nodes which have their own even if they overlap (and the design of Ashes as we know it works against that too).

Leaving Crates and related activity to take up the same slots as Artisanship and Immersion stuff and hence technically creating a worse outcome than both ArcheAge/EVE and the WoW-clones.

tl;dr this take implies that BDO feels alive, which it does not.

you can do both. there will be times when you wont be able to do gathering (or processing / crafting because of a lack of materials), maybe because of the land management system or other reasons, and then you do crates.

i would rater:

1- kill mobs
2- do crates
3- do artisan stuff

Yeah me too, it's not like I, the Processor, am going to be spending a lot of time running around doing Gathering, and I am the type to want to get my group together and haul ingots to wherever.

The question is, 'which ingots and how much are these foreign nodes paying me compared to using them?'

Aszkalon

Azherae wrote: »

You keep mentioning this... did they remove this from the game?

Do you want the values to be higher? What exactly is the reason you keep bringing it up?

Off. Thanks so much for asking.

I just know that this wasn't the Case in Phase 1 if i remember correctly. I have no Idea if it is the Case now, but i just "assume" it is not.

This is why i hope by keep mentioning this ( like the desperate Begger i am

) - i will increase the Chances of Sir Steven making it like in WoW -> and we will be able to gather EXP to level up from everything we do.

Fishing,
Mining,
Chopping Wood,
etc.

Not just from senseless Slaughter of Mobs until i think i might pop a Bloodvessel inside my Braincase.

Ludullu

Aszkalon wrote: »

but i just "assume" it is not.

Do believe we did receive xp for artisanry in P1. It was just a really small amount. And afaik (cause hasn't tested this myself), Intrepid have increased that amount by a fair bit either in P2 or in 2.5.

Azherae

I definitely remember receiving xp for Artisanship of all kinds back then, because I used it as part of my various Exp Debt tests.

I don't even feel like it was really small, at low levels it was pretty meaningful and it didn't drop off too much either (at least that's what those in my group who pushed further into their Artisan paths reported to me).

Ludullu

Azherae wrote: »

I definitely remember receiving xp for Artisanship of all kinds back then, because I used it as part of my various Exp Debt tests.

I don't even feel like it was really small, at low levels it was pretty meaningful and it didn't drop off too much either (at least that's what those in my group who pushed further into their Artisan paths reported to me).

Yeah, I'm fairly sure I got a few lvls off of artisanry, cause I did a shitton of it in P1. And now, supposedly, that's even easier to do.

Aszkalon

Ludullu wrote: »

Do believe we did receive xp for artisanry in P1. It was just a really small amount. And afaik (cause hasn't tested this myself), Intrepid have increased that amount by a fair bit either in P2 or in 2.5.

OOFFFFF. My Saviour, (lol) thanks for that Information.

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