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War with out warnings

SeolloSeollo Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
in General Discussion
I just lost 30 to 50 gold worth of Legendary materials to a war that was declared on Winstead. Polar filled the town declared war and killed everyone. There was no warning and the guards did nothing to stop them. I am not sure how this can be intended. This kind of bullshit is what will make people quit this game. I am all for PVP but ganking all the crafters in town is total crap.

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  • SeolloSeollo Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    There needs to be at least some kind of warning for war if it is delcared inside a town. This ganking everyones crafters without warning is nuts. What is the point of paying taxes to a town if there is no protection inside that town. The first responsibility to any government is to protect its people.
  • nanfoodlenanfoodle Member, Founder, Kickstarter, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Was this a guild war?
  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member, Alpha Two
    Needs at least a 24hr declaration period, doesn't it. And an announcement on logging in.
    This link may help you: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/


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  • SmileGurneySmileGurney Member, Alpha Two
    edited September 16
    I assume it was a node war, for some reason attackers can just enter the node settlement uncontested by guards. Guards attack ANYONE who does any damage to anyone in town, that means both attackers but also the defending citizens. They are just dumb bots which can be also avoided if you stay on the roofs, or kite.

    The whole system is clearly undercooked, buggy and open to abuse. Personally I don't believe node wars should be available on the live servers in their current state. Leave wars to PTR and introduce on "live" when the feature is more fleshed out.
    My lungs taste the air of Time,
    Blown past falling sands…
  • SmileGurneySmileGurney Member, Alpha Two
    edited September 16
    daveywavey wrote: »
    Needs at least a 24hr declaration period, doesn't it. And an announcement on logging in.
    Any wars you character can be affected by should be displayed as a warning message on the character selection screen when you select a character.
    My lungs taste the air of Time,
    Blown past falling sands…
  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    daveywavey wrote: »
    Needs at least a 24hr declaration period, doesn't it. And an announcement on logging in.

    Truth !!
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    I am in the guildless Guild so to say, lol. But i won't give up. I will find my fitting Guild "one Day".
  • Arya_YesheArya_Yeshe Member
    Seollo wrote: »
    I am all for PVP but ganking all the crafters in town is total crap.

    LOLOLOLOL

    You say you’re all for PvP, but the moment it actually impacts your “carebear routine” you call it “bullshit.” That’s not being pro-PvP, that’s wanting PvP only when it’s convenient for you.

    Wars are meant to catch people off guard, that’s literally the point of declaring one. Guards aren’t supposed to protect you like NPC babysitters; protection comes from your node’s leadership and community. If your town can’t defend itself, that’s a failure of its government, not the game design.

    And crafters being untouchable would completely destroy the risk vs reward philosophy. If you want absolute safety, maybe a themepark MMO is more your style, but Ashes was never advertised as one.

    #micdrop
    PvE means: A handful of coins and a bag of boredom.
  • Arya_YesheArya_Yeshe Member
    edited September 16
    daveywavey wrote: »
    Needs at least a 24hr declaration period, doesn't it. And an announcement on logging in.

    no annoucements, there should be an icon on screen just like EVE Online, pretty much just copy anything EVE when in doubt about what to do in game design, just copy EVE

    hover your mouse over the Active Wars icon and see the list of active wars, that't the smart way
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    and the 24 hours period is actually a good thing
    PvE means: A handful of coins and a bag of boredom.
  • Arya_YesheArya_Yeshe Member
    “I support PvP… but not like THAT!”
    “I’m all for PvP… except when it actually affects me.”
    “You’re not pro-PvP, you’re just pro-PvP-when-it-doesn’t-inconvenience-you.”

    right?
    PvE means: A handful of coins and a bag of boredom.
  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member, Alpha Two
    edited September 16
    Arya_Yeshe wrote: »
    daveywavey wrote: »
    Needs at least a 24hr declaration period, doesn't it. And an announcement on logging in.
    there should be an icon on screen just like EVE Online...

    hover your mouse over the Active Wars icon and see the list of active wars, that't the smart way
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    That'd do nicely :)
    This link may help you: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/


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  • OrymOrym Member, Alpha Two
    I love losing stuff. That means there is a reason to keep grinding again.

    Settlement wars will occur and stuff will be lost.

    They will introduce notice beforehand, as they have said. If it was not a notice right now that means bug or not implemented yet.
  • SmileGurneySmileGurney Member, Alpha Two
    Arya_Yeshe wrote: »
    daveywavey wrote: »
    Needs at least a 24hr declaration period, doesn't it. And an announcement on logging in.

    no annoucements, there should be an icon on screen just like EVE Online, pretty much just copy anything EVE when in doubt about what to do in game design, just copy EVE

    hover your mouse over the Active Wars icon and see the list of active wars, that't the smart way
    ke5em00j7mjq.png

    and the 24 hours period is actually a good thing
    Intrepid could improve quite a few things, including eco if they copied at least some of the CCP Games homework.
    My lungs taste the air of Time,
    Blown past falling sands…
  • r4venl0rdr4venl0rd Member, Alpha Two
    edited September 18
    Eazy fix for this. When a town is in a "war" state. There should be one of two things happening:

    1. Guards in town that is connected to a "Castle" owned by a guild - become hostile to ANYONE with a "red" flag from any other guild said "owner" are in war with for duration of the "war" state. (ala L2).

    PK.ers should be killed instantly by guards either way so not gonna bring them up.


    2. People in said node should be able to spend gold / buy NPC guards for the town gates when area is in "war" state to defend the town. Guards should be (if max lvl is 25) lvl 30-40. You should not be able to go into a town and attack anyone ALONE. If you wanna attack and wipe a town. You better get your whole guild together or you WILL get wiped out by the AI guards that will be 5-10x lvls higher then you and hit much much harder. (Again, LIke L2). But there you couldent hire guards in town, But that was how guards worked at castle siges (you could hire them and they fought for you and they could rly smack you around if you dident have rly high gear)

    But with that said: THERE NEED to be a clear text / warning coming up on everyones screen wherever you are on the map that "This town" / "This area" / "This guild have declared war...." on said place/town/castle/guild.

    That will keep the communiy engaged and involved in the guild dramas/town dramas etc even if they are not in a guild or even rly care about that stuff. It will still keep them up to date to what is happening in the world.

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