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The State of PvP "petition" (Or lack of)

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  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    lamina5432 wrote: »
    Isn't it still a thing to have a freind kill you twice to remove corruption?
    Afaik it still is a thing, so cari probably doesn't have friends.
    lamina5432 wrote: »
    Which also does corruption only happen when the player you are fighting doesn't fight back? Or there was a bug.
    Yes it does, unless cari somehow stumbled onto a bug, but they wouldn't even know about such a bug because they didn't even know how corruption works.
    lamina5432 wrote: »
    I'm just wondering what the circumstnces of this was.
    Kinda sounds like they murdered passive players, got megacorrupted, didn't pay attention to the "corruption value changed to this" after killing a mob, learned about a system that they should've learned about way before even buying access and ragequit because of that knowledge.

    Orrrr, it was all a bug on a bug, which is actually quite possible. Though at that point all of this should've been reported to Intrepid, ideally with logs and screenshots.
  • AeacusAeacus Member, Alpha Two
    Ludullu wrote: »
    Aeacus wrote: »
    Where I can not claim this won't be the case in games like Ashes and Arche Ages; however, where guild or group PvP is encouraged is mostly a different type of PvP personality. These are "generally" non-toxic and fulfill the PvP itch by a unity in which players function as one.
    A2 alone has confirmed that Ashes will have insanely toxic guilds and players. And we're not even in the "general populous" stage of the game's existence. That will attract even more toxic people.

    Proof the masses are toxic? Only toxic one I've come across thus far is a PvEer -- you! That's factual.
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  • AeacusAeacus Member, Alpha Two
    Ludullu wrote: »
    Kallysha wrote: »
    Yeah toxic people are everywhere innit?...
    Oh, I'm the toxiest of them all, because I'm the only true pvper here, while all yall are god damn pussies that only want to murder people for free B)

    More toxicity... just proving my point... and no you aren't a true PvPer.
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  • AeacusAeacus Member, Alpha Two
    Ludullu wrote: »
    Aszkalon wrote: »
    " Murder People for free " ? The Ones who already HATE the Corruption System won't care in the end, i think. They will create throw-away-Characters if they must. Or simply run around in Groups. :mrgreen:
    Which is exactly my point. THOSE people are just enjoying AoC's pvp to the full extent, while all of these pussy "pvpers" whine and complain that they can't murder people w/o suffering some losses of their own.

    and... yet more....
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  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    edited October 30
    I am for Consequences of People who just murder and gank others.

    But imagine ganking even just "ONE" unimportant fellow Player - and then lose probably WEEKS OR MONTHS of Progress in Gearpieces for it. ;)

    This won't be "PvP". This will be the most toxic Gankbox since Sea of Thieves. :sweat_smile:
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  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    Aeacus wrote: »
    and... yet more....
    Yes, it's as if I said I was the toxiest one B)
    Aszkalon wrote: »
    But imagine ganking even just "ONE" unimportant fellow Player - and then lose probably WEEKS OR MONTHS of Progress in Gearpieces for it. ;)
    Which is exactly why I've been giving feedback to make corruption much much laxer FOR YEARS. But Steven is afraid to balance that system correctly, so instead he just gives people genocide circles and thinks that will resolve stuff or save his design.
  • caribizzlecaribizzle Member, Alpha Two
    edited October 30
    so i was at carph.. lvl 24, 2 people were farming Tank and a Bard. couldn't get an invite from them.

    would love to pk them, but if I kill the first one (which I probably could) the second one is gonna mop me up. 2 25's by the way. then i lose gear.

    so given that's how corruption works, why would i risk it? they're basically safe there and can hunt with impunity.

    ppl say pvpers don't want a fair fight. that's bullshit. if i want mmo-style pvp, i'm going back to WoW arena which is functionally normalized gear, even levels etc. just a skill and teamwork check, and strategy, tactics etc. or i play counter-strike fps, which is also elo. If I play sandbox I 1vX and fight odds.
    but do i gank, too? hell yeah. i took out 2 lowbies because they were in a remote location and farming-- might have good loot on em. and they never had a chance.

    one final thing i'll say is the pvp meta of trying to bait people into flagging on you is absolute batshit toxic.
  • caribizzlecaribizzle Member, Alpha Two
    and jesus what do i get at carph if i do manage to kill the 2 25's? i have to take my char immediately hide to somewhere safe and get a friend to come kill me? please
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    caribizzle wrote: »
    so given that's how corruption works, why would i risk it? they're basically safe there and can hunt with impunity.
    You flag onto them to challenge them. If they don't fight back - they're weaklings. Carph is supposedly difficult enough for people to die to mobs, so just attack the bard long enough for him to go down into the 50% and keep him there, so that he wastes mana/buffs on heals and stuff. If those 2 dudes can't farm that spot solo - they'll have to stop farming and you will have gotten the pve you came there for. Hence, pvx.

    Steven even made this easier for you by making the hp visible. And this does not give you any corruption, unless you're super sloppy with your attacks, which would just be a skill issue on your side.
    caribizzle wrote: »
    and jesus what do i get at carph if i do manage to kill the 2 25's? i have to take my char immediately hide to somewhere safe and get a friend to come kill me? please
    And this is why I want proper corruption balancing, so that this is NOT the only action you can take when you go corrupted.
  • caribizzlecaribizzle Member, Alpha Two
    so people like you always say something like that, and it goes to show how little pvp experience you have. good luck winning a 1v2 as a rogue against superiorly geared opponents by declaring your intent to an honest, fair fight -- and then, worst of all, letting them open on you!!

    only way to win that fight is to down 1 of them before they know much what's going on. that's the simple truth of it.

    and when pve farming, everyone knows not to fight back.

    what you're proposing is ridiculous, missing the point entirely and obfuscating the truth. it's not a pvp game. that, at least, you and i can agree on.

    look you are the loudest voice in the room but you're insulting people, making personal attacks, blah de da de da it's not worth having a discourse with you.

    you were honest when you said it's not a pvp game, and never will be.
  • caribizzlecaribizzle Member, Alpha Two
    "challenge them" lol please
    "if they don't fight back, then they're weaklings!" okay bro
  • caribizzlecaribizzle Member, Alpha Two
    enjoy your pve sandbox that you keep pvpers out of cuz that's clearly what you're trying to do
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    caribizzle wrote: »
    so people like you always say something like that, and it goes to show how little pvp experience you have. good luck winning a 1v2 as a rogue against superiorly geared opponents by declaring your intent to an honest, fair fight -- and then, worst of all, letting them open on you!!
    Case in point of "pvpers" being pussies :D Can only win from dirty tactics and backstabbings :D
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  • caribizzlecaribizzle Member, Alpha Two
    yeah bro people who play pve are way more tough and people who pvp are soft
    idk why you call pvpers pussies, when all you do is try to chat pvp
  • caribizzlecaribizzle Member, Alpha Two
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  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    caribizzle wrote: »
    yeah bro people who play pve are way more tough and people who pvp are soft
    idk why you call pvpers pussies, when all you do is try to chat pvp
    I don't play pve, I play pvx. Both pvers and "pvpers" are weak, because they want to do their own thing w/o anyone else influencing them. I want both pvp and pve to constantly interact with each other and punish the other side. And only the ones who can avoid that punishment will be the winners.

    I already posted video of me fighting other people for my pve, but instead of addressing my arguments against OP's points, everyone just started saying that pvp matters only in THIIIIS phase and not the previous ones, though when I asked what changed in the design - no one answered.

    So maybe you'll tell me something, oh mighty pvper, why exactly can't you just flag on people and fight them, despite the power difference. Are you scared to lose? I've seen Zybak's pvp videos, he at least goes against multiple people as a rogue, so even compared to him you seem like a weakling, but I don't even consider him a pvper, because he also just wants free murder circles rather than a good pvp system with stakes and consequences.

    So you're 2 steps below my lowest standards for what a true pvper is :D
  • caribizzle wrote: »
    so people like you always say something like that, and it goes to show how little pvp experience you have. good luck winning a 1v2 as a rogue against superiorly geared opponents by declaring your intent to an honest, fair fight -- and then, worst of all, letting them open on you!!

    only way to win that fight is to down 1 of them before they know much what's going on. that's the simple truth of it.

    and when pve farming, everyone knows not to fight back.

    what you're proposing is ridiculous, missing the point entirely and obfuscating the truth. it's not a pvp game. that, at least, you and i can agree on.

    look you are the loudest voice in the room but you're insulting people, making personal attacks, blah de da de da it's not worth having a discourse with you.

    you were honest when you said it's not a pvp game, and never will be.

    Yeah he been doing this for a good while now, even Steven lowkey indirectly called him out, he is even more salty since then 🤣

    @Ludullu listen my guy you are indeed legit irrelevant, you will always be no matter how much you keep on pulling a tantrum about it; and very clearly delulu, in no way shape or form you a are an actual pvper, i mean you can keep on dreaming as much a bout it, im sorry to tell you this, that doesnt make it true.

    Also if i ever get into the game, pray we dont end up in the same server... 😊 where i come from you talk shit you get hit
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  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    Kallysha wrote: »
    even Steven lowkey indirectly called him out, he is even more salty since then 🤣
    Ahh, so I wasn't a selfcentered delusional person then, cause I thought he took a stab at me.

    Though I'm still not sure about that, cause Steven hasn't fucking logged into forums in almost a year and I doubt any of the mods relay to him names of posters.
    Kallysha wrote: »
    Also if i ever get into the game, pray we dont end up in the same server... 😊 where i come from you talk shit you get hit
    I'm gonna be playing on the EU side, so you're always welcome to come kill me :) If the game is optimized enough I'll even be streaming, so you'll have an easier time hunting me.
  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    caribizzle wrote: »
    yeah bro people who play pve are way more tough and people who pvp are soft
    idk why you call pvpers pussies, when all you do is try to chat pvp

    Both People who are scared out of their minds and pee their Pants at the Concept of being able to get killed/ganked by other Players everywhere,

    AND Players who are afraid of a few Consequences NOT BEING to over-the-top - > are Pussies. (lol)


    The Game will be extremely boring when the Corruption System stays like it has been in the Alpha 2 in the last Year or so.
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