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Questions to the Developers

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  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    Gardosien wrote: »
    You know as well as I do, as long as their is exploitable, or nonconsensual PVP.. The azzhats will do,,, it... Being bored is just a lame excuse..... Not see one PVP game in my 30 years gaming, that this was not the norm... If it had nonconsensual PVP. Will be the death of this game if not handle right.... Mark my words
    I play to pvp, but ganking is lame, imo

    "Don't you think that concrete responses from the devs themselves would prevent this exact situation?"

    Based on 100% of the post they did respond , That I have looked at,, no... Trolls will be trolls....
    You know better =)

    Individual people, perhaps.

    However, a games community is mostly shaped by the developer themself. A developer that is open and honest with it's players will have a significantly better community than a developer that is neither of those things.

    In fact, you can usually tell the communication stance of a given games team based on the community the game has.
  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member, Alpha Two
    Noaani wrote: »
    In fact, you can usually tell the communication stance of a given games team based on the community the game has.

    So, what does a salty, beaten-down and ignored community say about them?
    This link may help you: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/


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  • VolgarisVolgaris Member, Alpha Two
    And we wait. Which is okay, a Halloween stream was a bad idea. Give the time off to the team, and viewership would be lower too anyways. We're about 1 year into A2 now. I did think more features would have been added in by now.
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    daveywavey wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    In fact, you can usually tell the communication stance of a given games team based on the community the game has.

    So, what does a salty, beaten-down and ignored community say about them?

    Generally salty people are salty because they have not recieved what they expected to recieve. Sometimes this is the fault of an individual not setting their expectations well. However, if it is a whole community, you can't blame each individual member of that community, but rather you need to look at where their expectations came from in the first place.

    Being beaten down is a result of recieving negative/harmful treatent time after time. Being ignored is self-explanitary.

    So, that the community is being ignored repeatedly, while the game in question doesn't resemble that which was promised.
  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member, Alpha Two
    Volgaris wrote: »
    And we wait. Which is okay, a Halloween stream was a bad idea. Give the time off to the team, and viewership would be lower too anyways. We're about 1 year into A2 now. I did think more features would have been added in by now.

    Did you ever get any answers?
    This link may help you: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/


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  • VolgarisVolgaris Member, Alpha Two
    Nope. Which is fine. Maybe there'll be something on the stream that keeps moving to the right. I assume they're more focused on Harbringers. Which is cool, but odd. I don't know why Harbringers is being brought in when there's so many other core features missing still. Phase 3 is packed thick with features which we've still yet to see. Maybe there's a technical reason, more network testing? Shutting down the prod realms for the ptr, probably to get more ppl over there to stress it out. Hopefully they keep the PTR open longer.
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    Volgaris wrote: »
    Nope. Which is fine. Maybe there'll be something on the stream that keeps moving to the right. I assume they're more focused on Harbringers. Which is cool, but odd. I don't know why Harbringers is being brought in when there's so many other core features missing still. Phase 3 is packed thick with features which we've still yet to see. Maybe there's a technical reason, more network testing? Shutting down the prod realms for the ptr, probably to get more ppl over there to stress it out. Hopefully they keep the PTR open longer.
    My copium says "they've finally figured out some good PvE AI and the harbinger mobs/bosses will show that". But my realism is saying "no one will ever even fucking see those mobs, because the event progress will be stopped by the sweats who'll murder everyone they see in the pvp zones" :D
  • ChickenInSpaceChickenInSpace Member, Alpha Two
    It would be a lot easier for the devs to parse and respond if they are met with succinct and well contained questions or notes.

    Almost everything asked about is very broad strokes questions. Some of it touches things under tuning, some of them are open-ended questions, some seem to be on philosophical vision of the game, and some have been answered as best the devs already know and available on the wiki.

    Also, berating them for not answering after asking to narrow down the scope into something that doesn't require a few pages of text to answer isn't going to be very helpful for either playtesters or devs.
  • RonDog98RonDog98 Member, Alpha Two
    It would be a lot easier for the devs to parse and respond if they are met with succinct and well contained questions or notes.

    Almost everything asked about is very broad strokes questions. Some of it touches things under tuning, some of them are open-ended questions, some seem to be on philosophical vision of the game, and some have been answered as best the devs already know and available on the wiki.

    Also, berating them for not answering after asking to narrow down the scope into something that doesn't require a few pages of text to answer isn't going to be very helpful for either playtesters or devs.

    Personally I think it’s the lack of intrepid seeming to implement our feedback, combined with almost zero interaction from Intrepid’s team that makes it feel so frustrating.

    At this point I think the forum just wants to know what they do with the feedback they get because it doesn’t seem like it’s being used.
  • lamina5432lamina5432 Member, Alpha Two
    RonDog98 wrote: »

    Personally I think it’s the lack of intrepid seeming to implement our feedback, combined with almost zero interaction from Intrepid’s team that makes it feel so frustrating.

    At this point I think the forum just wants to know what they do with the feedback they get because it doesn’t seem like it’s being used.

    The proposed open developement feels very sealed off when the only interaction we ever get with the dev team is impromptu questions the pick from the live stream. I would have given some credit if they picked one of the questions from OP post, even if it was just we are planning to work on this later but are blocked by this and this.
  • VolgarisVolgaris Member, Alpha Two
    It would be a lot easier for the devs to parse and respond if they are met with succinct and well contained questions or notes.

    Almost everything asked about is very broad strokes questions. Some of it touches things under tuning, some of them are open-ended questions, some seem to be on philosophical vision of the game, and some have been answered as best the devs already know and available on the wiki.

    Also, berating them for not answering after asking to narrow down the scope into something that doesn't require a few pages of text to answer isn't going to be very helpful for either playtesters or devs.

    I don't control other peoples responses or comments. The devs can respond to the questions or not. If they don't I take it as they don't have an answer, they don't have a plan for it, or there are bigger issues they are dealing with.

    Please give me an example of an open ended question I asked. I think they would all be easy to answer if they had an answer. If you have an answer to one of them please link the source.

    Parsing and responding to the forums is not a hard task and is even easier using some type of AI to help parse. The forums don't have that much activity, collecting the questions and answering them shouldn't be hard. It's just probably not a priority, maybe they spend more time on discord or reddit.
  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member, Alpha Two
    Volgaris wrote: »
    maybe they spend more time on discord or reddit.

    And now tiktok too...
    This link may help you: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/


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  • VolgarisVolgaris Member, Alpha Two
    daveywavey wrote: »
    Volgaris wrote: »
    maybe they spend more time on discord or reddit.

    And now tiktok too...

    XD XD XD. I get wanting to advertise your game everywhere, but there should limits.
  • RonDog98RonDog98 Member, Alpha Two
    daveywavey wrote: »
    Volgaris wrote: »
    maybe they spend more time on discord or reddit.

    And now tiktok too...

    Sigh
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