DUMB Crafting Time Sink- Let us craft multiples

-The act of leveling crafting-

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This unnecessary time sink alone makes your crafting system below par. Please take the feedback and update.

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daveywavey

This is EXACTLY how it is.

Putting in multiples and letting the timer tick down? A Re-Craft last selection button? I'm sure there are people who can think of something more elegant, but those are a start.

Volgaris

I've been shouting this since early A2. The crafting is a UI activity. It's a boring loop. It's only a means to an end rife with tedium.

I don't know what can be done with processing. But crafting needs to be more engaging for sure. I suppose processing could be eased by more queues by default. They could look to Vanguard and FFXIV for some crafting engagement ideas.

It's still 100% better than early A2, so it's moving in a better direction.

wolfhammer

100% support this - I don't know how anyone was allowed to put the current travesty in? Why not just do it properly from the start?

Alzeido

The intent for crafting isnt meant to be BULK crafting just for profit/fodder, its supposed to be done so that you make a great item and sell it, customized even.

the issue you are all complaining about is that you can't just bang your head against a wall and level it up 1000x, its not balanced because its placeholder. its functional until the finished system is done.

daveywavey

https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/514778#Comment_514778

And how are you going to level up your Crafting Professions without bulk crafting? One a day is going to take you a very very long time.

Alzeido

https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/514797#Comment_514797

Placeholder system, for now you aren't.

daveywavey

https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/514804#Comment_514804

I'd be intrigued to hear whatever system you think they're going to implement that doesn't involve making lots and lots of items for XP, and how you're expecting to increase in profession rank without it. Sounds like your idea may be a game-changer.

Alzeido

https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/514805#Comment_514805

well my idea doesnt neccesarily mean Intrepid will implement it, but based on bits i've heard and my own imagination it's going to be along the lines of, crafting one item which will incolve a minigame, that minigame will possibly increase exp or even add extra stats onto the item. so instead of having say, Ashen Haunt gear be the god of Adept gear, you can get Sanctus Shulker with equivalent or even better stats without having insane rarity, and that crafter will have their name ON the item so people who buy it on the market can see who made it and commission them to make more, instead of mass producing crappy items just to level

daveywavey

So would your mini-game take the place of crafting hundreds of items? Or would you have to do the mini-game hundreds of times?

Would you need new materials for each time you did the mini-game?

Just trying to work out how it would fit into the Artisan XP levelling.

Foossa

https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/514778#Comment_514778

"The intent for crafting isnt meant to be BULK crafting just for profit/fodder, its supposed to be done so that you make a great item and sell it, customized even.

How is the focus not meant for "Bulk crafting" as you put it when you consider the XP requirements they have implemented for crafting vs say gathering/processing. If what you said was true (which you won't find the quote of intrepid stating such), they would not have the xp requirements to level to reflect such a large sum. To reach such amount of XP, you must refer to the original post and craft in bulk.

This is especially true if you know how XP modifiers work for crafting currently in game. Which tells me this is intentional at the moment. If you are unaware, I'll help educate. If you craft let's say a wood crate that take 5 timber and larger crate that costs 10 timber, you get the same XP based on the material quality. (5Tx2)XP=(10T)XP. When you add in XP modifiers, they benefit each crafted completion as a flat rate. So the more you can build with the same quantity of mats, you get more total XP. The current form quite LITERALLY is telling people to bulk craft low quantity mat items for more overall XP.

Alzeido

https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/514866#Comment_514866

It's simple, the current system is placeholder designed to be functional, not finished. we have many of the gathering atrisanry's also being placeholder and its very likely the the crafting system wont be in its finished state until after the gathering systems are finished, which wont be until the worlds core systems and stress testing etc is finished. Intrepid has alot more work to do!

For example, hunting right now is finding a static node, press F petting the motionless animal until it DIES and then you get a carcass, which iis then processed, and then crafted into a end product. this whilst functional is clearly not the end result, in our ingame stats we have places for traps, hunting bows, lures, not to mention the dozens of systems that will affect such things like seasons, time of day, constellations, world change due to growth and player activity etc

Currently intrepid don't exactly publish a checklist of what they're working on but they have 250+ people drawing a salary, i doubt that they are just asleep at their desks ;)
plus with the design of Ashes of Creation, we aren't supposed to know everything in the game, we're supposed to play and find out. so my bet is a large majority of the game will be hidden until we find it, and i love that

Foossa

https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/514893#Comment_514893

No one argues that it's not a placeholder. Lol what are you going on about? This is a feedback forum for an UNFINISHED ALPHA game brother.. We gave our opinion, as intrepid literally states in the forum directions. I'm lost at how you don't think it's currently a bulk crafting mess when it literally was first iterated as such. It's just feedback for the improvement... and we all know this. Stop scapegoating. They are all adults and can handle direct feedback. If not, this game would fail anyways, and you can move on to your next forum channel to white knight at.

Alzeido

https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/514916#Comment_514916

what's scapegoating?

I'm agreeing with you, i'm just saying that saying a placeholder is bad when its clearly a placeholder is pointless, no? its like leaving feedback on the login queue and saying "get bigger servers", like… huh?

ELRYNO

https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/514918#Comment_514918

So what's the point in testing? Most if not all of what we see is placeholder no?

Edit: this could quite literally be answered by intrepid having some sort of programme of testing schedules to help players understand what they actually want feedback on. But this goes back to my aged opinion that they don't have a PM team.

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