How do PVE players feel about the Land Management System?

So before Steven and Margaret showed the gathering video they talked about griefing. Now, there is nothing that says griefing has to do with PVP. Under the land management system what stops people from becoming eco-terrorists even if Intrepid does what PVE players want and include PVE servers? Could griefers not simply make side accounts for the purpose of depleting resources on PVE servers along with the unintended help from the non-griefer gatherers who simply like to gather? Then after hoarding as many resources as they can in freeholds, banks, and guild halls if they aren't allowed to transfer that resource to their main account on a PVP server then why not destroy the economy of the PVE server by dumping resources on the market and repeating the process? So my question again is how do PVE players feel about this system and if you are okay with the land management system which can be used to grieve an even greater amount of players than a simple open-world PVP type of griefing can then why aren't you fine with PVP? Because at that point you don't really mind griefing you just don't like PVPing. This brings me to the point that if you don't like PVPing then I find it hard to believe that such a player would be down for "opt-in" node wars, caravans, castle sieges, etc. The reason why I put quotes around opt-in is that will a PVE player feel like it's opt-in if the survival of their freehold is on the line and basically being held, hostage? Now how will they feel about caravans every time they want to transfer a large amount of mats?

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NiKr wrote: »

I plan to have a more pvping gatherer alt character in Ashes, so I'll see how my behavior will be influenced by a game that is much more about pure gathering than just "kill mobs and get shit". Though for now I definitely don't see myself not fighting back if attacked while gathering

The important thing to remember is that it's simply unpleasant.

You have the buffer of 'feeling good, proving something', because that's how your mind works. I have just as much interest in PvP but I 'unfortunately' lack that response, so, for example, I tire of opponents in the games I play after a bit, even when I'm beating them.

Even when I'm 'proving their style doesn't work', as soon as they double down, I become increasingly more bored with them. It makes getting enough practice difficult.

Translate that to a game like Ashes, where I 'log in to fight a cool boss', get attacked while fighting it, try to fight back, die because I was fighting the boss, leave the boss to the person who killed me, watch them fail at it 6 times, then they stop.

Imagine that I re-engage the boss after THEIR sixth failure, hoping to have the 'fun I was thinking of' now that they've learned they can't beat it.

Guess what happens next...

Even if you assume that I fight that player to ensure my own safety in the boss fight and beat them quite badly in a duel, you know how that's going to go.

So really, it's not that 'PvP players' are an obstacle to 'enjoying the non-PvP parts of the game'. I wouldn't expect you to attack me mid-Katzvariak for no reason, far less 'disrupt me fighting it after I let you try six times yourself'.

But we're not talking about you. No matter how much I love PvP, I'm DEFINITELY going to try to get the type of person I'm talking about to be Corrupted (that'd be random chance ofc but I'd still try). I'm not gonna flag up on that type of idiot. Especially if them going Red means that if I CAN kill them they will spawn further away.

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