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And it's also been said repeatedly that training mobs is not intended and that the aggro mechanics are not functioning as intended by the developers. And ask the players that got sanctioned recently for training mobs if that's what Intrepid means by PVX? It's not, so stop trying to defend you intentionally griefing, and generally just being a jerk, in a test environment with "PVX."

Xeeg wrote: »

When people bring monsters to me or my groups i see it as a challenge and an opportunity for some fun outside of the monotonous grind. Shrug, different strokes for different folks.

If people are going to say that professions, traveling, and caravans are supposed to be dull and boring, at least let us spice up the mob grinding with PVX. The complainers can go pick flowers.

I can understand your reasoning, even though I don't agree on the conclusion. What I mean: you say grinding is dull and boring, and so are professions, caravans and travelling. In other words, you say that all gameloops are currently dull, boring and tedious - and I agree, they are.

But shouldn't the solution for Intrepid rather be to - well ... - make these systems fun to engage with instead of having players grief each other because the game itself doesn't manage to entertain them? Isn't this approach a bit ... off?

My personal solution: I neither pick flowers nor do I get griefed, because I stopped playing. At least my impression of the current vibe and mood here on the Forum, Reddit, etc. is that more and more people put the Alpha aside, also because of the toxic behaviour they experience. So eventually there won't be anyone left to train monsters on. Then again, I'm somewhat hopeful Intrepid will spice up the levelling experience soon so people don't have to randomly kill each other because there isn't much fun to be found in the current state of the Alpha besides that.

The fact that I don't feel the need to constantly post "I told you so", and so have been posting much less probably has an effect on the over all activity on these forums.

The people who enjoy playing Ashes the most give their feedback in other places, and don't have a lot to discuss in long form, right now.

Posting takes away precious bug-hunting time.

Xeeg wrote: »

Thats what it felt like, and thats why I was so mad, and still am.

Honestly, that sounds like alpha testing.

You aren't supposed to be here looking for thst reward. Your reward right now comes in the form of making the game better - or at least that is where it should come from.

I know this is just saying " it's alpha, what do you expect", but that is very much the case. The balance in regards to risk vs reward isn't in place yet, and indeed can't be put in place until the classes are fairly well set, the PvP systems are fairly well set, and the PvE content is fairly well set. Since changes to any of these would result in a change to the risk vs reward paradigm, that risk vs reward is essentially the last piece of the game put in place.

This is not likely to change your mind, or make you feel better, or anything like that - but just keep in mind I have seen games in much later stages of development than this where encounters didn't even have their loot tables in place.