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Please we from the EU are feeling left out from the Kickstarter.

Dear Intrepid, I was very hyped today to support your project. I hadn't quite figured out if I wanted the 400Dollar package or maybe a different one. But I feel like you have forgotten an important part in your kickstarter. I am from EU, The Netherlands and we don't do a lot of things with credit cards here. I feel its quite unfair that I am not offered a different payment method as I really wanted to support your project. I kind of feel left out now as I see the limited backers being sold out.
I just wanted to make you aware of this issue and I know it wasn't on purpose. On the kickstarter FAQ it says this -> What forms of payment can I use to make a pledge? You can use a debit or credit card associated with Visa, Discover, JCB, MasterCard, or American Express. Discover and JCB cards are currently only accepted for US-based projects. We do not currently accept Maestro or Visa Electron cards. If using a pre-paid credit card, please make sure that the card has a value of at least $1 more than your pledge amount.


ps: Please we are from the EU, you are missing out a huge market without the paypal/"other payment methods". Please give us an option. I really want to support your project and many others too. See discord for yourself!
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  • "we from the EU"

    No, you from NL, most of EU uses debit/credit cards. How do you shop online without one? There's no reason a working adult shouldn't have a debit card.
  • Can you not get a pre-paid credit card to pay for it since that is an option?
  • [quote quote=13280]“we from the EU”

    No, you from NL, most of EU uses debit/credit cards. How do you shop online without one?

    [/quote]

    Paypal?
  • +1

    Was about to throw 425$ at this game, but i guess not....

    I'm like wtf, its 2017 and still no PayPal support on kickstarter?!

    I'm really, really gutted about this, was counting down to this day ready to spend my money and get some early access and other goodies, but no....

    Sure i can go through all the shit to get me some debit card i will never use again, but by the time i get it, those early bird packages will be long gone...

    [quote quote=13280]“we from the EU”

    No, you from NL, most of EU uses debit/credit cards. How do you shop online without one? There’s no reason a working adult shouldn’t have a debit card.

    [/quote]
    Been shopping online for over a decade without one just fine. Had a credit card for some years but never used it and it only costed me money...
  • OP, look up Intrepid studios address and just mail them the 400 with a note? Better than nothing. (Don't take this seriously)
  • I was going to buy the $2500+ package myself, but as Xrayin said: None of the payment methods are available to me. And while I am incredible hyped for the game, I'm not going to get a credit card solely to back this game, however tempting it is.

    I beg of you, please find a way to make other methods of payment valid TToTT
  • There's no Paypal on Kickstarter. Steven said there might be a shop on the website later but 90% is Kickstarter only.
  • First - getting a credit card isn't really something oh so magical to begin with. When you are outside of the EU you really need a credit card at your hand. Otherwise it is really hard to come by with only a ec/giro card. So I guess getting one would be not so bad at one point. Even if you only use it for this KS - who cares.

    2nd - I believe that kickstarter is also working with pre-paid credit cards. You only need at least $1 or more than the pledge you are going for on the cards in order for it to work. And I believe you can get these cards on each gas station (at least here in Germany) and also virtually so well....

    3rd - the fact that there will be a kickstarter campaign was out for idk how long. Secondly the campaign is still running for 30 days. There is plenty of time to get a workaround if you insist not getting a real credit card. Just saying. Just google a bit.


    [quote quote=13287]I was going to buy the $2500+ package myself, but as Xrayin said: None of the payment methods are available to me. And while I am incredible hyped for the game, I’m not going to get a credit card solely to back this game, however tempting it is.

    I beg of you, please find a way to make other methods of payment valid TToTT

    [/quote]

    not going to lie - if you are to spend this amount of money (or even more) getting a credit card would be the least of my concerns. I mean you basically get one - type in the info of the card on the KS site. Wait till the campaign is over - delete the payment info. Store your card deep where no one can find it. Not sure why it is so hard or why people insist not getting one when it was clear from the beginning that credit cards or pre-paid ones would be the only options available.

    Can't really understand you guys.
  • [quote quote=13276]But I feel like you have forgotten an important part in your kickstarter. I am from EU, The Netherlands and we don’t do a lot of things with credit cards here.[/quote]

    I'm sorry, but what?

    Perhaps <em>you</em> don't, millions others here do, regularly.

    That doesn't mean more payment options wouldn't be nice, but the whole premise of "give us other payment options, EU don't use credit cards" is just silly.
  • [quote quote=13287]I was going to buy the $2500+ package myself, but as Xrayin said: None of the payment methods are available to me. And while I am incredible hyped for the game, I’m not going to get a credit card solely to back this game, however tempting it is.

    I beg of you, please find a way to make other methods of payment valid TToTT

    [/quote]

    Can you not use your Checking account bank card that is a credit card?
  • And i thought i was the only one... that was a huge disappointment for me seeing that they dont take paypal. Paypal is all it takes nowadays, atleast i thought so(it did for the past years). AoC isnt even allowing me to throw money at it. Rip the dream to buy myself into the alpha.
  • [quote quote=13276]Dear Intrepid, I was very hyped today to support your project. I hadn’t quite figured out if I wanted the 400Dollar package or maybe a different one. But I feel like you have forgotten an important part in your kickstarter. I am from EU, The Netherlands and we don’t do a lot of things with credit cards here. I feel its quite unfair that I am not offered a different payment method as I really wanted to support your project. I kind of feel left out now as I see the limited backers being sold out.
    I just wanted to make you aware of this issue and I know it wasn’t on purpose. On the kickstarter FAQ it says this -> What forms of payment can I use to make a pledge? You can use a debit or credit card associated with Visa, Discover, JCB, MasterCard, or American Express. Discover and JCB cards are currently only accepted for US-based projects. We do not currently accept Maestro or Visa Electron cards. If using a pre-paid credit card, please make sure that the card has a value of at least $1 more than your pledge amount.

    ps: Please we are from the EU, you are missing out a huge market without the paypal/”other payment methods”. Please give us an option. I really want to support your project and many others too. See discord for yourself!

    [/quote]

    Hi Xrayin, we're so sorry you feel this way and certainly didn't mean to leave anyone out of our exciting Kickstarter. Kickstarter themselves are the ones who determine acceptable payment methods and there was nothing we could do to change it. Please believe us that if we could have utilized Paypal and other alternatives, we would have! Your best bet if you wish t participate is to try to get a prepaid debit/credit card that's a Visa or MasterCard, etc.

    Thank you for your interest and again, we apologize for the inconvenience.

    Cheers!
  • If you pay more than 100 Euro with your virtual credit card it gets highly complex. Identification per mail etc. As far as i know
  • <- Croatia I use debit >Visa Electron works fine.
  • im from Croatia and was able to pledge, so EU works, at least most countries i would say
  • [quote quote=13297]<blockquote>
    <div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/please-we-from-the-eu-are-feeling-left-out-from-the-kickstarter/#post-13287" rel="nofollow">GlacialisD wrote:</a></div>
    I was going to buy the $2500+ package myself, but as Xrayin said: None of the payment methods are available to me. And while I am incredible hyped for the game, I’m not going to get a credit card solely to back this game, however tempting it is.

    I beg of you, please find a way to make other methods of payment valid TToTT

    </blockquote>
    Can you not use your Checking account bank card that is a credit card?

    [/quote]

    Only card I have from my bank (or even in general) is Maestro, which Kickstarter does not support.
  • [quote quote=13313]<blockquote>
    <div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/please-we-from-the-eu-are-feeling-left-out-from-the-kickstarter/#post-13297" rel="nofollow">Helzbelz wrote:</a></div>
    <blockquote>
    <div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/please-we-from-the-eu-are-feeling-left-out-from-the-kickstarter/#post-13287" rel="nofollow">GlacialisD wrote:</a></div>
    I was going to buy the $2500+ package myself, but as Xrayin said: None of the payment methods are available to me. And while I am incredible hyped for the game, I’m not going to get a credit card solely to back this game, however tempting it is.

    I beg of you, please find a way to make other methods of payment valid TToTT

    </blockquote>
    Can you not use your Checking account bank card that is a credit card?

    </blockquote>
    Only card I have from my bank (or even in general) is Maestro, which Kickstarter does not support.

    [/quote]

    Ok yea that sucks. I do think that the Developers need to make it so you can invest. :) Or at least allow a Pre-paid card.
  • [quote quote=13293]First – getting a credit card isn’t really something oh so magical to begin with. When you are outside of the EU you really need a credit card at your hand. Otherwise it is really hard to come by with only a ec/giro card. So I guess getting one would be not so bad at one point. Even if you only use it for this KS – who cares.
    [/quote]
    And pay annual fees for a credit card i never have any use for? I dont go outside of the EU, i never had any need for a credit card, even though i buy almost everything online!

    [quote]
    Not sure why it is so hard or why people insist not getting one when it was clear from the beginning that credit cards or pre-paid ones would be the only options available.

    Can’t really understand you guys.

    [/quote]
    Because its 2017! For years now paypal is accepted in pretty much every online store i buy products, so i assumed that something like Kickstarter would accept Paypal as a payment option. But i learned my lesson, never assume anything...
  • I would like to the Project Supported but I can not go with Paypal pay on kickstarter that sucks.
    I hope It will still a possibility for Players from the EU give the project with PayPal to Support.
  • [quote quote=13284]+1

    I’m like wtf, its 2017 and still no PayPal support on kickstarter?!

    [/quote]

    it's not in the hands of Intrepid, so don't take it out on them.... a bit disappointing from kickstarter tbh
  • For what the hell, for example me as a college student, do i need a credit card ? I dont even see a bloody point for the more working population.

    Edit: Too stuipid to quote
  • [quote quote=13344]<blockquote>
    <div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/please-we-from-the-eu-are-feeling-left-out-from-the-kickstarter/#post-13284" rel="nofollow">Rundo wrote:</a></div>
    +1

    I’m like wtf, its 2017 and still no PayPal support on kickstarter?!

    </blockquote>
    it’s not in the hands of Intrepid, so don’t take it out on them…. a bit disappointing from kickstarter tbh

    [/quote]
    Dont get me wrong, i dont blame Intrepid, all my anger and rage is aimed at Kickstarter :P

    (I say anger and rage, but its more a feeling of disappointment that i cant get the early bird package i wanted)
  • What? I'm located in Europe and I've been using a credit card since... well, forever. Heck, I used one to pay for the monthly Lineage (1) and RO fees back in the day.

    FYI, Maestro is a multi-national <em><strong>debit card service</strong></em> owned by MasterCard. That's why Maestro isn't supported by Kickstarter: <em><strong>it's not a credit card service</strong></em>. My advice, just get one of those prepaid credit cards.
  • Thank you very much for responding. I appreciate your answer and even though you cannot help it. I appreciate the fact that you would if you could.

    Even though its a shame I am not able to support you and show "I was there from the beginning". I am very glad to see that your game is receiving a lot of funding and support.

    I truly from the bottom of my heart wish your game becomes a success and I wish you all the best even though I am not able to financially support it myself.

    Thank you for being the defending forces of MMORPG'S in the future.

    God Bless.
  • I wanted to support the game 2 but I'm from belgium, and I currently don't have anything else than Meastro or paypal.
  • [quote quote=13356]What? I’m located in Europe and I’ve been using a credit card since… well, forever. Heck, I used one to pay for the monthly Lineage (1) and RO fees back in the day.

    FYI, Maestro is a multi-national <em><strong>debit card service</strong></em> owned by MasterCard. That’s why Maestro isn’t supported by Kickstarter: <em><strong>it’s not a credit card service</strong></em>. My advice, just get one of those prepaid credit cards.

    [/quote]

    +1

    I'm from the UK (also in the EU - for the moment at least, but that's a different discussion) and credit / debit cards are quite normal here.

    Don't get me wrong, it would be nice if Kickstarter offered the option of PayPal but they are far from the only online service to not offer that option.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited July 2018
    lol
  • I am from the EU and I easily managed to get my hands on a virtual mastercard through my bank's website. I'm sure your bank has similar systems available for your necessities.
  • The only reason I can see someoen not having a credit/depit card is if they are under 18. If you are udner 18 you really shouldn't spend money on a kickstarter.

    I honestly don't know a single adult without a credit card. EU resident myself.

    Edit: Saw someone mentioning that they only have Maestro card, and not master/Visa. Maestro is for those under 18. It's honestly good that Kickstarter only allow Mastercard or Visa, as it prevents kids from spending money on it.
  • Talk for yourself please because I do have a creditcard and so do most of my friends from "the EU" or better said the Netherlands. Just get yourself a prepaid creditcard or lend someone elses and fund the game with it. The alternatives really ain't that difficult to come up with... And getting a crditcard for real isn't all that expensive, just like a few euro per month at the bank where i have it from...
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