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Please we from the EU are feeling left out from the Kickstarter.

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  • [quote quote=13380]do you not work for a living? Surely if one works then one should get their money paid into a bank account?
    How is it even possible this day and age to not have some sort of debit/credit card?

    i think this guy is a bum and should probably spend his job seekers allowance/benefit money on i dont know food maybe?
    i really dont understand this OPS problem lol, sort ya life out jeez

    [/quote]We get it to our banks, just not through debit or a credit card genius
  • [quote quote=13394]The only reason I can see someoen not having a credit/depit card is if they are under 18. If you are udner 18 you really shouldn’t spend money on a kickstarter.

    I honestly don’t know a single adult without a credit card. EU resident myself.

    Edit: Saw someone mentioning that they only have Maestro card, and not master/Visa. Maestro is for those under 18. It’s honestly good that Kickstarter only allow Mastercard or Visa, as it prevents kids from spending money on it.

    [/quote]

    Where did you soak this stuff up ? Tell me any good reason to get myself a credit card when i wouldnt use it. Heck my mother is 53 and isnt owning a credit card.. guess shes doing fine. But i think this topic got highjacked into a ,,Why and how to get a credit card''
  • [quote quote=13394]The only reason I can see someoen not having a credit/depit card is if they are under 18. If you are udner 18 you really shouldn’t spend money on a kickstarter.

    I honestly don’t know a single adult without a credit card. EU resident myself.

    Edit: Saw someone mentioning that they only have Maestro card, and not master/Visa. Maestro is for those under 18. It’s honestly good that Kickstarter only allow Mastercard or Visa, as it prevents kids from spending money on it.

    [/quote]
    You should do your homework mate...

    Maestro has nothing to do with age, its pretty much standard on all bank account passes you get here in the Netherlands (don't know about banks in other countries)

    And there can be many reasons why someone would not have a credit/debit card, it has nothing to do with their age or wealth. Some make it sound that it is a real life requirement to own a credit/debit card, but its not. There are many alternatives to pay online and in shops without the need for a credit card.
  • this post made me LOL
  • Places that don't take paypal don't take it because it's a slightly higher risk method. Stolen accounts, and their dispute process is far too in the favor of buyers.

    Can't reeeeally blame them.

    [quote quote=13331]<blockquote>
    <div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/please-we-from-the-eu-are-feeling-left-out-from-the-kickstarter/#post-13293" rel="nofollow">Bell wrote:</a></div>
    First – getting a credit card isn’t really something oh so magical to begin with. When you are outside of the EU you really need a credit card at your hand. Otherwise it is really hard to come by with only a ec/giro card. So I guess getting one would be not so bad at one point. Even if you only use it for this KS – who cares.

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    And pay annual fees for a credit card i never have any use for? I dont go outside of the EU, i never had any need for a credit card, even though i buy almost everything online!

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    Not sure why it is so hard or why people insist not getting one when it was clear from the beginning that credit cards or pre-paid ones would be the only options available.

    Can’t really understand you guys.

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    Because its 2017! For years now paypal is accepted in pretty much every online store i buy products, so i assumed that something like Kickstarter would accept Paypal as a payment option. But i learned my lesson, never assume anything…

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  • https://www.alleszondercreditcard.nl/kickstarter-ideal/

    for dutch people go here!
  • Thank you good sir for a constructive solution and feedback, unlike other rude people. I salute you.
  • Hi, from EU here, i actually didn't know there existed places without credit/debit cards :p
  • [quote quote=13637]<div>
    <blockquote><a href="https://www.alleszondercreditcard.nl/kickstarter-ideal/" rel="nofollow">Kickstarter met iDEAL betalen</a>
    </blockquote>

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    for dutch people go here!

    [/quote]

    Thank you!
  • There is top up pre-paid cards.
    Can you not buy one with paypal ?
    And besides, surely paypal is linked to a bank account.
    If you have a bank account you can get a 'debit' card and wont be charged for transactions.
    EU- debit card user ...with paypal ?!?!
  • :D you're welcome!
  • You have 30 days left to find a prepaid card and put money on it. In Belgium banks (not all tho) and even the postal service propose prepaid cards.... Just grab one.
    https://www.mastercard.nl/nl-nl/consumers/find-card-products/prepaid-cards.html
    https://prepaid.yourmastercard.nl/
  • UK here. Used ApplePay but I suppose that was via a card also. Not sure if there's other forms linked to ApplePay. I don't know the situation in NL I've known people from there and didn't realise it was a thing? Surely someone you know has access to a card instead, I would try asking them.
  • I used my Visa debit card and I am in the EU.

    Maestro is a failed EU project that is still only really active in some core EU countries where the European Central Bank still has an overwhelming interest as Central Banker. Maestro sucks and has additional data requirements that are not supported by most remote payment systems in the rest of the world. If you live in a country with Maestro debit cards then you should be making noises for your bank to stop folding to ECB pressure and do the decent thing so you can take part more in the world at large.

    I think a lot of these "disappointed" people are actually under 18 and have access to Paypal but not Visa/Mastercard debit cards as these are for over 18's only.

    Maestro card? Your bank sucks.
  • I'm sure you can purchase a prepaid card and use that.
  • To everyone who doesn't get it... I to am from the Netherlands, and we don't have a culture where we spend money we don't have on shit we don't need, like allot of other countries. (basically the idea behind credit cards)

    Having said that, this is a dutch cultural thing, not EU thing.

    I do agree with OP, i have 8 friends who want back the game but can't, all dutch people with no credit card.
  • You don't get it. Your posting on the AoC forum about something kickstarter doesnt support. AoC didnt opp out of paypal Kickstarter doesnt allow it.
  • [quote quote=14776]To everyone who doesn’t get it… I to am from the Netherlands, and we don’t have a culture where we spend money we don’t have on shit we don’t need, like allot of other countries. (basically the idea behind credit cards)

    Having said that, this is a dutch cultural thing, not EU thing.

    I do agree with OP, i have 8 friends who want back the game but can’t, all dutch people with no credit card.

    [/quote]

    As said many times, and now once again. Intrepid has nothing to do with Kickstarters payment method.

    There has been a solution posted by others, simply read back in this thread.
  • [quote quote=14776]To everyone who doesn’t get it… I to am from the Netherlands, and we don’t have a culture where we spend money we don’t have on shit we don’t need, like allot of other countries. (basically the idea behind credit cards)

    Having said that, this is a dutch cultural thing, not EU thing.

    I do agree with OP, i have 8 friends who want back the game but can’t, all dutch people with no credit card.

    [/quote]
    Most people use credit cards responsible in the western world. Sure some don't but they are in the minority. It doesn't make your culture superior because you don't have them, its just a useful tool to have. Also if it really is about spending money you don't have why not just use a Debit Card? That money comes straight out of your bank account.
  • Have you contacted Kickstarter? Maybe if enough of you get together you can make a change there and they'll implement PayPal as an accepted form of payment. Good Luck!
  • [quote quote=14776]To everyone who doesn’t get it… I to am from the Netherlands, and we don’t have a culture where we spend money we don’t have on shit we don’t need, like allot of other countries. (basically the idea behind credit cards)

    Having said that, this is a dutch cultural thing, not EU thing.

    I do agree with OP, i have 8 friends who want back the game but can’t, all dutch people with no credit card.

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    https://www.alleszondercreditcard.nl/kickstarter-ideal/


    for dutch people who wanna do the kickstarter! its ez takes 5 min.
  • Hopefully we have more payment methods for paying that subscription once the game goes live. Bank transfer, Paypal, letters etc.
  • [quote quote=16241]Hopefully we have more payment methods for paying that subscription once the game goes live. Bank transfer, Paypal, letters etc.

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    ofc they will.
  • Id like to interject here. Not wanting to spend money you don't have isn't a "Dutch" thing.I have a debit card and can only spend whats in my account.I got the debit card because some people will ONLY take that type of payment.
  • I am rather amazed about the elitist mindset, some people seem to have here.

    Personally I was also bummed about not being able to purchase a pledge without a credit or debit card. I am living in Germany and I would have to pay about 5 EUR a month, so 60 EUR a year in order to get a credit card from my bank I would literally never use again, thus it's not feasible. I rather spend that type of money and a lil extra to get a new tailored shirt.
    And, although some people have suggested it, I am not under 18, I am 24 and earn enough to support this project without having to worry about my finances.

    Everyone saying "it's only a few bucks a month for a credit card, just get one" simply doesn't know how to use his budget effectively, or lacks the brain capacity to emphasize with others, that aren't living the exact same lifestyle as oneself.

    I will probably get myself a virtual credit card and pay those pesky fees for the one time usage, but I don't see a good reason, why you would <strong>have</strong> to get a credit card in Germany, if you aren't frequenting other countries like the US. You can pay anywhere with an EC-Card, online everything either uses PayPal or you can pay by debit on your bankaccount. Unless you frequently go in the red, then it might be a good idea for the percentage rate, depending on what kind of deal you got. But then you would have other problems to worry about.
  • Germany here, too. As mentionend above most of us use PayPal or the EC-card. It's "sad" that Kickstarter doesn't support it and I'm not interested in a Mastercard, that's my bad, but I really hope that AoC will put PayPal as a financial method for the monthly sup. Otherwise I'm out of it.

    For the rest of you, have a great time with the KS items :)
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