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Phase I of Alpha Two testing will occur on weekends. Each weekend is scheduled to start on Fridays at 10 AM PT and end on Sundays at 10 PM PT. Find out more here.
Check out Alpha Two Announcements here to see the latest Alpha Two news and update notes.
Our quickest Alpha Two updates are in Discord. Testers with Alpha Two access can chat in Alpha Two channels by connecting your Discord and Intrepid accounts here.
(Poll) What kind of server do you prefer, separate servers or one mega server?
I made a free poll at poll-maker.com
To vote: https://goo.gl/gosBIA
To see results: https://goo.gl/OwzfQN
I think both have their pros and cons. The pros of having separate servers (PVE, PVP, RP-PVE, RP-PVP) is that, the devs can create a seamless world that has no loading screens for every zone. The con about having separate servers is that the server/game world will kinda have an empty feel to it due to is not being able to hold a lot of players.
The pros about having one mega server is that, you're going to see players everywhere. Zones will be full of players. Cons is that there will be loading screens for every zone, basically for everything.
I prefer separate servers, mainly ones that are RP-PVP. Nothing better than being immersed in game with role players but also having to watch your back out in the open world, or organizing a march with siege to another zone to take down a metropolis.
So, what kind of server do you prefer?
To vote: https://goo.gl/gosBIA
To see results: https://goo.gl/OwzfQN
I think both have their pros and cons. The pros of having separate servers (PVE, PVP, RP-PVE, RP-PVP) is that, the devs can create a seamless world that has no loading screens for every zone. The con about having separate servers is that the server/game world will kinda have an empty feel to it due to is not being able to hold a lot of players.
The pros about having one mega server is that, you're going to see players everywhere. Zones will be full of players. Cons is that there will be loading screens for every zone, basically for everything.
I prefer separate servers, mainly ones that are RP-PVP. Nothing better than being immersed in game with role players but also having to watch your back out in the open world, or organizing a march with siege to another zone to take down a metropolis.
So, what kind of server do you prefer?
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RPing in an MMORPG is simple: just stay in character and react to what's happening around you as your avatar would.
It's all RP.
And I'm not really a fan of PvP combat. Well, I'm a hippy carebear, so I try to avoid combat as mush as possible, even with NPCs and mobs.
But, I'm a streamer who co-hosts shows devoted to MMORPGs. And I watch other streamers who love MMORPGs.
And I'm friends with devs of MMORPGs. I've got lots of friends with different playstyles who I want to play with in the same game.
So my preference is for all the playstyles to share the same server.
I'd probably rather see split servers dedicated to specific guilds or streamers rather than playstyle.
Or a hardcore server and a casual server. Or a permadeath server.
Something different than the standard.
Steven says AoC won't have PvE servers, so I'd love to know what kinds of server rule sets they would concoct.
They will have different servers because the way the game is designed to be different from server to server. Add to that they will not have PVE servers so if thats what you want go play WOW. The GAME is 100% focused on Open World PVP. Having a PVE server makes the game a pile of shit other wise. If you dont like that then this game is not for you.
RPing in an MMORPG is simple: just stay in character and react to what’s happening around you as your avatar would.
It’s all RP.
And I’m not really a fan of PvP combat. Well, I’m a hippy carebear, so I try to avoid combat as mush as possible, even with NPCs and mobs.
But, I’m a streamer who co-hosts shows devoted to MMORPGs. And I watch other streamers who love MMORPGs.
And I’m friends with devs of MMORPGs. I’ve got lots of friends with different playstyles who I want to play with in the same game.
So my preference is for all the playstyles to share the same server.
I’d probably rather see split servers dedicated to specific guilds or streamers rather than playstyle.
Or a hardcore server and a casual server. Or a permadeath server.
Something different than the standard.
Steven says AoC won’t have PvE servers, so I’d love to know what kinds of server rule sets they would concoct.
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Yeah, I am not a fan of that type of rp. I actually like to sell my goods than faking it when rping as a merchant. I'm a jewel crafter in WoW and that is what I used to do but haven't logged into that game in months. I am not a hardcore rper who likes to spend hours in inns talking and /drinking. I like the large rp-pvp events out in the world.
They will have different servers because the way the game is designed to be different from server to server. Add to that they will not have PVE servers so if thats what you want go play WOW. The GAME is 100% focused on Open World PVP. Having a PVE server makes the game a pile of shit other wise. If you dont like that then this game is not for you.
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lol. To me, pve servers are boring. I know this game doesn't have factions, but what made WoW cool when I first started playing it many years ago, was seeing another player from the opposing faction out questing. It just adds another element to the game. Killing mobs over and over, gets stale after a while. I am sure they will implement a system to protect carebear pvers who don't want anything to do with pvp.
I have no problem with pvers, if raiding and questing is what they love to do, who am I to tell them they can't do it?
Because not every game should be WOW. This game will not be WOW it also will not have the budget of WOW. They have $30 Million in investments. So the game will not be for everything. The Developers ALSO have a plan and what they want. They are not going change it for a group of people that are not the target audience. That is why I am saying the Vote means dick. The game is not designed for a mega server, its not designed for PVE. So what the hell is the point of a Vote that its not even for that audience. Its like putting a vote on the WOW forums to put football as a mini game in WOW and design it just like a madden football game. WOW is not designed for the sporting game gamer.
O so why the hell would you have a vote on a MEga server? Do you not understand the game at all? This is exactly why I say your thread and vote is total bullshit and a waste of everyones time. Do you know that there are going to be so many nodes and what nodes progress and what monsters will be in the world will be different between servers. SO how the hell will have single Mega server work? This is you not understanding the game period and just throwing shit just to throw shit. Its a waste of time.
<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17092" rel="nofollow">Gothlander wrote:</a></div>
I have no problem with pvers, if raiding and questing is what they love to do, who am I to tell them they can’t do it?
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Because not every game should be WOW. This game will not be WOW it also will not have the budget of WOW. They have $30 Million in investments. So the game will not be for everything. The Developers ALSO have a plan and what they want. They are not going change it for a group of people that are not the target audience. That is why I am saying the Vote means dick. The game is not designed for a mega server, its not designed for PVE. So what the hell is the point of a Vote that its not even for that audience. Its like putting a vote on the WOW forums to put football as a mini game in WOW and design it just like a madden football game. WOW is not designed for the sporting game gamer.
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The point of the poll is to see what the majority of players here prefer.
<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17096" rel="nofollow">Helzbelz wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17092" rel="nofollow">Gothlander wrote:</a></div>
I have no problem with pvers, if raiding and questing is what they love to do, who am I to tell them they can’t do it?
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Because not every game should be WOW. This game will not be WOW it also will not have the budget of WOW. They have $30 Million in investments. So the game will not be for everything. The Developers ALSO have a plan and what they want. They are not going change it for a group of people that are not the target audience. That is why I am saying the Vote means dick. The game is not designed for a mega server, its not designed for PVE. So what the hell is the point of a Vote that its not even for that audience. Its like putting a vote on the WOW forums to put football as a mini game in WOW and design it just like a madden football game. WOW is not designed for the sporting game gamer.
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The point of the poll is to see what the majority of players here prefer.
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It does not fucking matter what they Prefer. Get that through your head. Again just like your One Mega server vote. It does not fucking matter because the game as designed is not designed for a single server. SO again what does it matter the GAME is not DESIGNED for your poll. They have 30 million to make the game they want, not what you want. They already said, they are making the game they want and people will come.
<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17101" rel="nofollow">Gothlander wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17096" rel="nofollow">Helzbelz wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17092" rel="nofollow">Gothlander wrote:</a></div>
I have no problem with pvers, if raiding and questing is what they love to do, who am I to tell them they can’t do it?
</blockquote>
Because not every game should be WOW. This game will not be WOW it also will not have the budget of WOW. They have $30 Million in investments. So the game will not be for everything. The Developers ALSO have a plan and what they want. They are not going change it for a group of people that are not the target audience. That is why I am saying the Vote means dick. The game is not designed for a mega server, its not designed for PVE. So what the hell is the point of a Vote that its not even for that audience. Its like putting a vote on the WOW forums to put football as a mini game in WOW and design it just like a madden football game. WOW is not designed for the sporting game gamer.
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The point of the poll is to see what the majority of players here prefer.
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It does not fucking matter what they Prefer. Get that through your head. Again just like your One Mega server vote. It does not fucking matter because the game as designed is not designed for a single server. SO again what does it matter the GAME is not DESIGNED for your poll. They have 30 million to make the game they want, not what you want. They already said, they are making the game they want and people will come.
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30 million, are you nuts?
<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17103" rel="nofollow">Helzbelz wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17101" rel="nofollow">Gothlander wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17096" rel="nofollow">Helzbelz wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17092" rel="nofollow">Gothlander wrote:</a></div>
I have no problem with pvers, if raiding and questing is what they love to do, who am I to tell them they can’t do it?
</blockquote>
Because not every game should be WOW. This game will not be WOW it also will not have the budget of WOW. They have $30 Million in investments. So the game will not be for everything. The Developers ALSO have a plan and what they want. They are not going change it for a group of people that are not the target audience. That is why I am saying the Vote means dick. The game is not designed for a mega server, its not designed for PVE. So what the hell is the point of a Vote that its not even for that audience. Its like putting a vote on the WOW forums to put football as a mini game in WOW and design it just like a madden football game. WOW is not designed for the sporting game gamer.
</blockquote>
The point of the poll is to see what the majority of players here prefer.
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It does not fucking matter what they Prefer. Get that through your head. Again just like your One Mega server vote. It does not fucking matter because the game as designed is not designed for a single server. SO again what does it matter the GAME is not DESIGNED for your poll. They have 30 million to make the game they want, not what you want. They already said, they are making the game they want and people will come.
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30 million, are you nuts?
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LMAO. Maybe you need to spend a week and read anything about this game before you post shit. This shows how LITTLE you know about the game.
http://massivelyop.com/2017/05/04/ashes-of-creations-steven-sharif-on-his-business-history-30m-funding-goal-and-pvp/
Can you discuss the setup of your funding? How much capital has gone into the game so far, and where did it come from? How much is the whole game expected to cost, all told, and how does it compare to other recent Kickstarted MMOs? (Crowfall has raised $12M, for example.)
The project is being funded by myself currently. This is going to be a bigger game, content-wise, than Crowfall, and our budget and funding reflects that. <strong>A core viable build that includes all the features discussed about the game will take roughly $30 million to complete.</strong><ul>
The Kickstarter and any other crowdfunding we might engage in is intended to add to that budget, for additional scope on certain systems we intend to reveal throughout development.
Again you look like a fool
<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17105" rel="nofollow">Gothlander wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17103" rel="nofollow">Helzbelz wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17101" rel="nofollow">Gothlander wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17096" rel="nofollow">Helzbelz wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17092" rel="nofollow">Gothlander wrote:</a></div>
I have no problem with pvers, if raiding and questing is what they love to do, who am I to tell them they can’t do it?
</blockquote>
Because not every game should be WOW. This game will not be WOW it also will not have the budget of WOW. They have $30 Million in investments. So the game will not be for everything. The Developers ALSO have a plan and what they want. They are not going change it for a group of people that are not the target audience. That is why I am saying the Vote means dick. The game is not designed for a mega server, its not designed for PVE. So what the hell is the point of a Vote that its not even for that audience. Its like putting a vote on the WOW forums to put football as a mini game in WOW and design it just like a madden football game. WOW is not designed for the sporting game gamer.
</blockquote>
The point of the poll is to see what the majority of players here prefer.
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It does not fucking matter what they Prefer. Get that through your head. Again just like your One Mega server vote. It does not fucking matter because the game as designed is not designed for a single server. SO again what does it matter the GAME is not DESIGNED for your poll. They have 30 million to make the game they want, not what you want. They already said, they are making the game they want and people will come.
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30 million, are you nuts?
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LMAO. Maybe you need to spend a week and read anything about this game before you post shit. This shows how LITTLE you know about the game.
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<blockquote><a href="http://massivelyop.com/2017/05/04/ashes-of-creations-steven-sharif-on-his-business-history-30m-funding-goal-and-pvp/" rel="nofollow">Ashes of Creation’s Steven Sharif on his business history, $30M funding goal, and PvP</a>
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Can you discuss the setup of your funding? How much capital has gone into the game so far, and where did it come from? How much is the whole game expected to cost, all told, and how does it compare to other recent Kickstarted MMOs? (Crowfall has raised $12M, for example.)
The project is being funded by myself currently. This is going to be a bigger game, content-wise, than Crowfall, and our budget and funding reflects that. <strong>A core viable build that includes all the features discussed about the game will take roughly $30 million to complete.</strong>
<ul>
The Kickstarter and any other crowdfunding we might engage in is intended to add to that budget, for additional scope on certain systems we intend to reveal throughout development.</ul>
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Didn't know the dude had that much cash. I don't know if this game will generate enough cash when its done for him to recoup his own cash. How many box sales would he need or how many subs and for how many months would it need for him to make all that back? lol
<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17107" rel="nofollow">Helzbelz wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17105" rel="nofollow">Gothlander wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17103" rel="nofollow">Helzbelz wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17101" rel="nofollow">Gothlander wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17096" rel="nofollow">Helzbelz wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17092" rel="nofollow">Gothlander wrote:</a></div>
I have no problem with pvers, if raiding and questing is what they love to do, who am I to tell them they can’t do it?
</blockquote>
Because not every game should be WOW. This game will not be WOW it also will not have the budget of WOW. They have $30 Million in investments. So the game will not be for everything. The Developers ALSO have a plan and what they want. They are not going change it for a group of people that are not the target audience. That is why I am saying the Vote means dick. The game is not designed for a mega server, its not designed for PVE. So what the hell is the point of a Vote that its not even for that audience. Its like putting a vote on the WOW forums to put football as a mini game in WOW and design it just like a madden football game. WOW is not designed for the sporting game gamer.
</blockquote>
The point of the poll is to see what the majority of players here prefer.
</blockquote>
It does not fucking matter what they Prefer. Get that through your head. Again just like your One Mega server vote. It does not fucking matter because the game as designed is not designed for a single server. SO again what does it matter the GAME is not DESIGNED for your poll. They have 30 million to make the game they want, not what you want. They already said, they are making the game they want and people will come.
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30 million, are you nuts?
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LMAO. Maybe you need to spend a week and read anything about this game before you post shit. This shows how LITTLE you know about the game.
<div class="">
<blockquote><a href="http://massivelyop.com/2017/05/04/ashes-of-creations-steven-sharif-on-his-business-history-30m-funding-goal-and-pvp/" rel="nofollow">Ashes of Creation’s Steven Sharif on his business history, $30M funding goal, and PvP</a>
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Can you discuss the setup of your funding? How much capital has gone into the game so far, and where did it come from? How much is the whole game expected to cost, all told, and how does it compare to other recent Kickstarted MMOs? (Crowfall has raised $12M, for example.)
The project is being funded by myself currently. This is going to be a bigger game, content-wise, than Crowfall, and our budget and funding reflects that. <strong>A core viable build that includes all the features discussed about the game will take roughly $30 million to complete.</strong>
<ul>
The Kickstarter and any other crowdfunding we might engage in is intended to add to that budget, for additional scope on certain systems we intend to reveal throughout development.</ul>
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Didn’t know the dude had that much cash. I don’t know if this game will generate enough cash when its done for him to recoup his own cash. How many box sales would he need or how many subs and for how many months would it need for him to make all that back? lol
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Box sales? Again you need to read up on the game. There is NOTHING TO BUY. Its a Sub Only Game with a Cash Shop. So you pay your sub you download and play the game. If you have 500K subs at $15 a month, you will make back all 30 Million in 5 months. Again great model because we are not aiming to make everyone happy. We are aiming for a sub set of the gamers out their which MMORPGS were always Niche. WOW was just the perfect storm. We seen what trying to Copy WOW did. It ended up crashing the industry.
<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17111" rel="nofollow">Gothlander wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17107" rel="nofollow">Helzbelz wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17105" rel="nofollow">Gothlander wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17103" rel="nofollow">Helzbelz wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17101" rel="nofollow">Gothlander wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17096" rel="nofollow">Helzbelz wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17092" rel="nofollow">Gothlander wrote:</a></div>
I have no problem with pvers, if raiding and questing is what they love to do, who am I to tell them they can’t do it?
</blockquote>
Because not every game should be WOW. This game will not be WOW it also will not have the budget of WOW. They have $30 Million in investments. So the game will not be for everything. The Developers ALSO have a plan and what they want. They are not going change it for a group of people that are not the target audience. That is why I am saying the Vote means dick. The game is not designed for a mega server, its not designed for PVE. So what the hell is the point of a Vote that its not even for that audience. Its like putting a vote on the WOW forums to put football as a mini game in WOW and design it just like a madden football game. WOW is not designed for the sporting game gamer.
</blockquote>
The point of the poll is to see what the majority of players here prefer.
</blockquote>
It does not fucking matter what they Prefer. Get that through your head. Again just like your One Mega server vote. It does not fucking matter because the game as designed is not designed for a single server. SO again what does it matter the GAME is not DESIGNED for your poll. They have 30 million to make the game they want, not what you want. They already said, they are making the game they want and people will come.
</blockquote>
30 million, are you nuts?
</blockquote>
LMAO. Maybe you need to spend a week and read anything about this game before you post shit. This shows how LITTLE you know about the game.
<div class="">
<blockquote><a href="http://massivelyop.com/2017/05/04/ashes-of-creations-steven-sharif-on-his-business-history-30m-funding-goal-and-pvp/" rel="nofollow">Ashes of Creation’s Steven Sharif on his business history, $30M funding goal, and PvP</a>
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Can you discuss the setup of your funding? How much capital has gone into the game so far, and where did it come from? How much is the whole game expected to cost, all told, and how does it compare to other recent Kickstarted MMOs? (Crowfall has raised $12M, for example.)
The project is being funded by myself currently. This is going to be a bigger game, content-wise, than Crowfall, and our budget and funding reflects that. <strong>A core viable build that includes all the features discussed about the game will take roughly $30 million to complete.</strong>
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The Kickstarter and any other crowdfunding we might engage in is intended to add to that budget, for additional scope on certain systems we intend to reveal throughout development.</ul>
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Didn’t know the dude had that much cash. I don’t know if this game will generate enough cash when its done for him to recoup his own cash. How many box sales would he need or how many subs and for how many months would it need for him to make all that back? lol
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Box sales? Again you need to read up on the game. There is NOTHING TO BUY. Its a Sub Only Game with a Cash Shop. So you pay your sub you download and play the game. If you have 500K subs at $15 a month, you will make back all 30 Million in 5 months. Again great model because we are not aiming to make everyone happy. We are aiming for a sub set of the gamers out their which MMORPGS were always Niche. WOW was just the perfect storm. We seen what trying to Copy WOW did. It ended up crashing the industry.
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No buying, really? I guess its good to get subs right off the bat. And if they deliver on all the things they said they are going to put in game, I think people will stay subbed much longer than 5 months. Getting 500k players though that is going to be the hard part.
How does having one server designated for PvE make the normal servers a pile of shit.
If you don't like playing on the PvE server don't play there.
Do you fear that the PvE server would be so popular the devs would be pushed to decrease the number of normal servers?
How does having one server with PvP toggled off negatively affect the other servers??
<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17086" rel="nofollow">Helzbelz wrote:</a></div>
It does not matter what your vote is. They will have different servers because the way the game is designed to be different from server to server. Add to that they will not have PVE servers so if thats what you want go play WOW. The GAME is 100% focused on Open World PVP. Having a PVE server makes the game a pile of shit other wise. If you dont like that then this game is not for you.
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How does having one server designated for PvE make the normal servers a pile of shit.
If you don’t like playing on the PvE server don’t play there.
Do you fear that the PvE server would be so popular the devs would be pushed to decrease the number of normal servers?
How does having one server with PvP toggled off negatively affect the other servers??
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I don't mind pve servers. All I want is a rp-pvp one. That is what I like.
Also in regards to the PvE or PvP server I would argue this game is providing neither. It's mostly a PvE server since most of the PvP combat requires permission. (You have to defend a caravan, join in to a caravan attack or queue for arena.) This game has a "murderer/corrupted" option but every game I've played in the past with this option it is almost never taken and is largely a trap. You lose combat strength, you can drop items and you even have Bounty Hunters coming for you.
But this isn't really about what we will have.
This is just about what we prefer.
A good poll would be asking what regions you want servers located in.
I'm trying to find the specific statements and failing, but I'm pretty sure Steven said there will be headstart servers and non-headstart servers, with headstart servers having node functionality turned off until headstart ends. So, there will be at least two rounds of servers opening at launch. With an expected concurrent player population of 10,000 per server, this makes me feel like we're going to have a dozen or more servers at launch which never gives me much confidence longterm.
However, if they implement "servers" like The Secret World does (they're essentially just instanced, but you can freely move between them), then having a dozen or more servers at launch shouldn't negatively impact as many players down the road when/if the population declines.
So, aye! RP-PvP server for me!
<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17086" rel="nofollow">Helzbelz wrote:</a></div>
It does not matter what your vote is. They will have different servers because the way the game is designed to be different from server to server. Add to that they will not have PVE servers so if thats what you want go play WOW. The GAME is 100% focused on Open World PVP. Having a PVE server makes the game a pile of shit other wise. If you dont like that then this game is not for you.
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How does having one server designated for PvE make the normal servers a pile of shit.
If you don’t like playing on the PvE server don’t play there.
Do you fear that the PvE server would be so popular the devs would be pushed to decrease the number of normal servers?
How does having one server with PvP toggled off negatively affect the other servers??
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because it goes 100% against what the game is designed for. The developers already know what they WANT and it is not a PVE/PVP server setup.
I’m trying to find the specific statements and failing, but I’m pretty sure Steven said there will be headstart servers and non-headstart servers, with headstart servers having node functionality turned off until headstart ends. So, there will be at least two rounds of servers opening at launch. With an expected concurrent player population of 10,000 per server, this makes me feel like we’re going to have a dozen or more servers at launch which never gives me much confidence longterm.
However, if they implement “servers” like The Secret World does (they’re essentially just instanced, but you can freely move between them), then having a dozen or more servers at launch shouldn’t negatively impact as many players down the road when/if the population declines.
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This game is not designed for Mega servers. No 2 servers will be the same because what nodes that progress will be different per server based on what the community does. Also one server might have a monsters that another does not. A Mega server does not work at all with this kind of setup. So again this poll its completely pointless because the OP really does not understand the game 1 bit. He does not understand these servers will be exactly like SWG servers were. PVP and PVE and RP all on the same server.
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I think if other games can have 20K people connected to it at any time I think Ashes should Aim for having 20K+ connections. The key to having that many connections is more back end Disk IOPS which if IOPS is around 20K or more on SSD and the network is a 10 Gbps pipe you can push the 20K connections per server.
That will reduce the chance of a world dying.
<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/page/2/#post-17444" rel="nofollow">Bringslite wrote:</a></div>
If the game engine can handle it and optimize the code so that my “puter” can handle it, I prefer one big populated world. My only real problem with separated “game worlds” or separate servers for sandboxes is that you can invest a lot of effort into a server that can become unpopular and die.
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I think if other games can have 20K people connected to it at any time I think Ashes should Aim for having 20K+ connections. The key to having that many connections is more back end Disk IOPS which if IOPS is around 20K or more on SSD and the network is a 10 Gbps pipe you can push the 20K connections per server.
That will reduce the chance of a world dying.
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I don't mean dying from technical problems. I mean dying for reasons like the pop dwindles on that server. Happens all the time in large games.
<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/page/2/#post-17465" rel="nofollow">Helzbelz wrote:</a></div>
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If the game engine can handle it and optimize the code so that my “puter” can handle it, I prefer one big populated world. My only real problem with separated “game worlds” or separate servers for sandboxes is that you can invest a lot of effort into a server that can become unpopular and die.
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I think if other games can have 20K people connected to it at any time I think Ashes should Aim for having 20K+ connections. The key to having that many connections is more back end Disk IOPS which if IOPS is around 20K or more on SSD and the network is a 10 Gbps pipe you can push the 20K connections per server.
That will reduce the chance of a world dying.
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I don’t mean dying from technical problems. I mean dying for reasons like the pop dwindles on that server. Happens all the time in large games.
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yes it does but thats because Server caps always seem to be around 10K people. Add to that content is mostly consumed inside a few weeks after 4 years or more of development. IF content is not something that takes months to consume players will get bored and leave. There will always be low pop servers, BUT if you have a higher connections per server and content takes months to complete you will likely see some good server populations.
I love a single global server. I don't know how practical that is for this game, though. People would complain of high ping somewhere, and congestion would be an issue. Eve Online's Tranquility server is an absolute beast and a labor of love for CCP. I don't see how we could do that.
However, the issue I see arising with many servers is the eventuality of a server going 'dead' and then the players complaining of low pop which will lead to an eventual server merge. That has me slightly worried, but not extremely worried.
<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17107" rel="nofollow">Helzbelz wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17105" rel="nofollow">Gothlander wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17103" rel="nofollow">Helzbelz wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17101" rel="nofollow">Gothlander wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17096" rel="nofollow">Helzbelz wrote:</a></div>
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<div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/poll-what-kind-of-server-do-you-prefer-separate-servers-or-one-mega-server/#post-17092" rel="nofollow">Gothlander wrote:</a></div>
I have no problem with pvers, if raiding and questing is what they love to do, who am I to tell them they can’t do it?
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Because not every game should be WOW. This game will not be WOW it also will not have the budget of WOW. They have $30 Million in investments. So the game will not be for everything. The Developers ALSO have a plan and what they want. They are not going change it for a group of people that are not the target audience. That is why I am saying the Vote means dick. The game is not designed for a mega server, its not designed for PVE. So what the hell is the point of a Vote that its not even for that audience. Its like putting a vote on the WOW forums to put football as a mini game in WOW and design it just like a madden football game. WOW is not designed for the sporting game gamer.
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The point of the poll is to see what the majority of players here prefer.
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It does not fucking matter what they Prefer. Get that through your head. Again just like your One Mega server vote. It does not fucking matter because the game as designed is not designed for a single server. SO again what does it matter the GAME is not DESIGNED for your poll. They have 30 million to make the game they want, not what you want. They already said, they are making the game they want and people will come.
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30 million, are you nuts?
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LMAO. Maybe you need to spend a week and read anything about this game before you post shit. This shows how LITTLE you know about the game.
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<blockquote><a href="http://massivelyop.com/2017/05/04/ashes-of-creations-steven-sharif-on-his-business-history-30m-funding-goal-and-pvp/" rel="nofollow">Ashes of Creation’s Steven Sharif on his business history, $30M funding goal, and PvP</a>
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Can you discuss the setup of your funding? How much capital has gone into the game so far, and where did it come from? How much is the whole game expected to cost, all told, and how does it compare to other recent Kickstarted MMOs? (Crowfall has raised $12M, for example.)
The project is being funded by myself currently. This is going to be a bigger game, content-wise, than Crowfall, and our budget and funding reflects that. <strong>A core viable build that includes all the features discussed about the game will take roughly $30 million to complete.</strong>
<ul>
The Kickstarter and any other crowdfunding we might engage in is intended to add to that budget, for additional scope on certain systems we intend to reveal throughout development.</ul>
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Didn’t know the dude had that much cash. I don’t know if this game will generate enough cash when its done for him to recoup his own cash. How many box sales would he need or how many subs and for how many months would it need for him to make all that back? lol
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30 million is on the low end to create a game. High end of Independent Developer budgets but pretty low over all. Elder Scrolls Online cost something like 200 million top launch.