Name Reservation

ArchivedUser

So on the AoC discord, I was having this gigantic confusing argument with everyone about name reservations..
I was informed that you will be able to claim the character name you want in Alpha Phase 1 if you got the appropriate package to join it... 

WHICH SOUNDS TOTALLY UNFAIR

Especially to those of us who did donate but could only get into Alpha 2 and lower, 
They said that people with higher packages will get to reserve first which sounds totally ridiculous to me... it sounds as if they're forcing me to raise my package to 500 so I can get the name that I want.

I played Blade and Soul for Beta and was able to claim my characters name then which was "Beep".
That name carried on to the launch of the actual game so I get to keep it.

All the other backers with the 400+ get to choose their names first, but they get all these others items in their packages... why are they allowed to get it and I'm not when I donated all I had into this game. Why can't they give everyone a fighting chance and let them claim their names in beta or something, it's extremely broken and unfair.

If the information I just relayed to you is incorrect PLEASE INFORM ME!

ArchivedUser

This is news to me.  I was under the impression that we could reserve our names online, at the same time of opportunity, regardless of whatever phase of development the game is in. 

ArchivedUser

I saw the debate but I have not seen anything that confirms what the name reservation will be yet. There was discussion in the old forum that players suggested the method you've mentioned about alpha 1 - however I don't recall anything being set in stone. I'd wait to here more from Intrepid

ArchivedUser

I remember them saying something along those lines during a live stream as well Babe.  Hopefully they send out a universal date for everyone to reserve on the same day.

ArchivedUser

if you spent $80+ on Kickstarter you can reserve your name before anyone who has not 

ArchivedUser

I feel like we get to reserve our names at the same time, purely because they've been fighting the whole pay to win thing, though you can't really win with a name.. But it still gets the same treatment

ArchivedUser

Severok said:

I remember them saying something along those lines during a live stream as well Babe.  Hopefully they send out a universal date for everyone to reserve on the same day.

It was but I don't think it's set in stone yet so I wouldn't take it as the final answer yet

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Rumbleforge said:

This is news to me.  I was under the impression that we could reserve our names online, at the same time of opportunity, regardless of whatever phase of development the game is in. 

Is that the case? See if that's the case, and that anyone who donated enough to reserve a name is able to claim a name before higher tier packages then that's what I want. 

If you claimed the name "Adam for example" and you donated the 125, but some other higher tier package with the 400 package claimed "Adam" after you, and they get that name because they're "higher priority" than you, is ridiculous to me. 

That's how I was informed it would be, and to be honest it's got me real upset.

ArchivedUser

I knew I was going to be able to reserve my name but I didn't realise I was going to be able to do it sooner than others. But, if we're being objective here the reason why folks get to do it is simply because they paid for it. In this life, if someone pays more than you for something they tend to get it better. Is it fair? I suspect most would argue that it is.  

Surely we could overcome this if I or someone else saved your name for you no? When we know more about cooldown periods etc maybe there'll be more to consider? Don't lose faith yet @Babe...where there's a will there's a way.  

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Babe said:

Rumbleforge said:

This is news to me.  I was under the impression that we could reserve our names online, at the same time of opportunity, regardless of whatever phase of development the game is in. 

Is that the case? See if that's the case, and that anyone who donated enough to reserve a name is able to claim a name before higher tier packages then that's what I want. 

If you claimed the name "Adam for example" and you donated the 125, but some other higher tier package with the 400 package claimed "Adam" after you, and they get that name because they're "higher priority" than you, is ridiculous to me. 

That's how I was informed it would be, and to be honest it's got me real upset.

Am I interpreting this right? You're saying that if someone with a higher package claims the same name AFTER someone with a lower package claimed it, gets it? 

Doubt that sounds right, If someone claimed it before you it shouldn't be able to be taken from you

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Babe said:

Rumbleforge said:

This is news to me.  I was under the impression that we could reserve our names online, at the same time of opportunity, regardless of whatever phase of development the game is in. 

Is that the case? See if that's the case, and that anyone who donated enough to reserve a name is able to claim a name before higher tier packages then that's what I want. 

If you claimed the name "Adam for example" and you donated the 125, but some other higher tier package with the 400 package claimed "Adam" after you, and they get that name because they're "higher priority" than you, is ridiculous to me. 

That's how I was informed it would be, and to be honest it's got me real upset.

Yeah, the kickstarter gave no indication that higher tiers of donation affected name reservation differently.  The way it was presented, name reservation is simply name reservation - which to me implies a name reservation process tied into their kickstarter backerkit application. 

If what you are saying IS true.... if there is preferential treatment of name reservation based on donation amount... then this was very misleading on their end.  And, in fact, could have affected a great many people's initial donation amounts if it had been more clear. 

I am hoping this will not be the case, because it would upset me a bit too.  But @Diura is right... it's still far too early to worry about it just yet.  Everything is subject to change.. but we should make our opinions and concerns known to the Intrepid team sooner than later, to avoid any unfortunate issues it could cause. 

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ReaperOfCookies said:

Babe said:

Rumbleforge said:

This is news to me.  I was under the impression that we could reserve our names online, at the same time of opportunity, regardless of whatever phase of development the game is in. 

Is that the case? See if that's the case, and that anyone who donated enough to reserve a name is able to claim a name before higher tier packages then that's what I want. 

If you claimed the name "Adam for example" and you donated the 125, but some other higher tier package with the 400 package claimed "Adam" after you, and they get that name because they're "higher priority" than you, is ridiculous to me. 

That's how I was informed it would be, and to be honest it's got me real upset.

Am I interpreting this right? You're saying that if someone with a higher package claims the same name AFTER someone with a lower package claimed it, gets it? 

Doubt that sounds right, If someone claimed it before you it shouldn't be able to be taken from you

Ah I see, no I doubt that will be true although as @Diura says, nothing has been confirmed yet. If you pick a name and it's accepted, I highly doubt someone whose paid more gets to take it from you. Wait for Intrepid to confirm and we can always encourage debate on the matter if that is indeed the case.

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ReaperOfCookies said:

Babe said:

Rumbleforge said:

This is news to me.  I was under the impression that we could reserve our names online, at the same time of opportunity, regardless of whatever phase of development the game is in. 

Is that the case? See if that's the case, and that anyone who donated enough to reserve a name is able to claim a name before higher tier packages then that's what I want. 

If you claimed the name "Adam for example" and you donated the 125, but some other higher tier package with the 400 package claimed "Adam" after you, and they get that name because they're "higher priority" than you, is ridiculous to me. 

That's how I was informed it would be, and to be honest it's got me real upset.

Am I interpreting this right? You're saying that if someone with a higher package claims the same name AFTER someone with a lower package claimed it, gets it? 

Doubt that sounds right, If someone claimed it before you it shouldn't be able to be taken from you

This is what I'm saying 

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Kratz said:

I knew I was going to be able to reserve my name but I didn't realise I was going to be able to do it sooner than others. But, if we're being objective here the reason why folks get to do it is simply because they paid for it. In this life, if someone pays more than you for something they tend to get it better. Is it fair? I suspect most would argue that it is.  

Surely we could overcome this if I or someone else saved your name for you no? When we know more about cooldown periods etc maybe there'll be more to consider? Don't lose faith yet @Babe...where there's a will there's a way.  

See I wouldn't mind someone saving a name for me, but it's still unfair to other people that don't get the same chance. If a 10k reserved the name "adam" and a 500 person reserved it first, the 10k would overpower the 500 because he donated more, is my understanding. 

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Babe said:

ReaperOfCookies said:

Babe said:

Rumbleforge said:

This is news to me.  I was under the impression that we could reserve our names online, at the same time of opportunity, regardless of whatever phase of development the game is in. 

Is that the case? See if that's the case, and that anyone who donated enough to reserve a name is able to claim a name before higher tier packages then that's what I want. 

If you claimed the name "Adam for example" and you donated the 125, but some other higher tier package with the 400 package claimed "Adam" after you, and they get that name because they're "higher priority" than you, is ridiculous to me. 

That's how I was informed it would be, and to be honest it's got me real upset.

Am I interpreting this right? You're saying that if someone with a higher package claims the same name AFTER someone with a lower package claimed it, gets it? 

Doubt that sounds right, If someone claimed it before you it shouldn't be able to be taken from you

This is what I'm saying 

I'd be pretty disappointed in them if that's true. Regardless of your package, if you claimed a name first, then you should be the one to get it. 

ArchivedUser

The quick explanation that was given was that higher tier package buyers will get first crack at name reservation.  Im hoping everyone with name reservation rewards get the same time frame as everyone else.

ArchivedUser

Sure but what Chaoser implies does not mean players could take names off you.

If it's a case that top pledgers get the opportunity to reserve names before lower pledgers then ok, I can understand that, not that I'd advocate it personally.

However, if it's a case that a top pledger could take a name "Adam" AFTER you've already picked it for yourself then I would be totally against that.

ArchivedUser

ReaperOfCookies said:

Babe said:

ReaperOfCookies said:

Babe said:

Rumbleforge said:

This is news to me.  I was under the impression that we could reserve our names online, at the same time of opportunity, regardless of whatever phase of development the game is in. 

Is that the case? See if that's the case, and that anyone who donated enough to reserve a name is able to claim a name before higher tier packages then that's what I want. 

If you claimed the name "Adam for example" and you donated the 125, but some other higher tier package with the 400 package claimed "Adam" after you, and they get that name because they're "higher priority" than you, is ridiculous to me. 

That's how I was informed it would be, and to be honest it's got me real upset.

Am I interpreting this right? You're saying that if someone with a higher package claims the same name AFTER someone with a lower package claimed it, gets it? 

Doubt that sounds right, If someone claimed it before you it shouldn't be able to be taken from you

This is what I'm saying 

I'd be pretty disappointed in them if that's true. Regardless of your package, if you claimed a name first, then you should be the one to get it. 

The way I interpret that message by Chaoser I see nothing to suggest that it won't be first come, first served as far as names go?

ArchivedUser

Kratz said:

ReaperOfCookies said:

Babe said:

ReaperOfCookies said:

Babe said:

Rumbleforge said:

This is news to me.  I was under the impression that we could reserve our names online, at the same time of opportunity, regardless of whatever phase of development the game is in. 

Is that the case? See if that's the case, and that anyone who donated enough to reserve a name is able to claim a name before higher tier packages then that's what I want. 

If you claimed the name "Adam for example" and you donated the 125, but some other higher tier package with the 400 package claimed "Adam" after you, and they get that name because they're "higher priority" than you, is ridiculous to me. 

That's how I was informed it would be, and to be honest it's got me real upset.

Am I interpreting this right? You're saying that if someone with a higher package claims the same name AFTER someone with a lower package claimed it, gets it? 

Doubt that sounds right, If someone claimed it before you it shouldn't be able to be taken from you

This is what I'm saying 

I'd be pretty disappointed in them if that's true. Regardless of your package, if you claimed a name first, then you should be the one to get it. 

The way I interpret that message by Chaoser I see nothing to suggest that it won't be first come, first served as far as names go?

Well I also doubt it will be anything else than that, would be pretty strange if it was. 
But that's just the idea I got from reading the thread

ArchivedUser

You realize that Alpha and Beta are going to be played on a separate server than the live servers. The stated intent is for it to become the testing server. So even if people in Alpha one have taken your name, it will still be available on LIVE. There is absolutely no information out there from developers on how and when LIVE name reservation is taking place. Also it may be server specific naming, like FFX14 does their naming. So if you are playing on USWest (example) and you take Slappy McFuggnuts because you REALLY have to have that name. The other person out there in the world who is also Slappy McFuggnuts may also be out there on USEast. Till you get a mod or dev response just calm your hysteria. You've got a loooooong time till we get to that point. 

ArchivedUser

Babe said:

This is what I'm saying 

I can see sense to this, actually.  Instead of opening up the process as a "free-for-all" to all those eligible people, they're inviting people in waves to keep the process orderly. 

I suppose going by donation package level is most fair.... probably more so than going by alphabetical order, or some other method.  We will just have to hope that no one else wants the same name we do.   *crosses fingers*

ArchivedUser

To clarify some of the information here, yes it has been said that the higher packages will get their name reservation system before others. For example, let's say 250, 500, 750 and 10,000 packs and there are 4 people.

The first person will be the 10,000 one, then the 750, then the 500 and lastly the 250. 

This was already said on livestream. 

ArchivedUser

Now I don't ever use forums so this is going to be poorly formatted.

That being said the current notion of "stealing" a name is absurd and frankly I don't think anyone would use this kind of system.
The way it was mentioned when it was mentioned on stream was the fact that higher tier packages get to reserve names before you.

For example if say I am a leader of man package I get to reserve my name on the 10th as opposed to a braver of worlds package that gets to reserve their name on the 11th and so on.

ArchivedUser

Sarumonin said:

To clarify some of the information here, yes it has been said that the higher packages will get their name reservation system before others. For example, let's say 250, 500, 750 and 10,000 packs and there are 4 people.

The first person will be the 10,000 one, then the 750, then the 500 and lastly the 250. 

This was already said on livestream. 

Thank you for clarifying.

ArchivedUser

Look all the discord people came o7 Welcome to the forums discord people ❤️

ArchivedUser

They're saying that Higher packages can reserve names first, then so on, so a 10k will get their chance to reserve a name before anyone else, and then the last person able to would be 125, the higher tier packages paid more for different items, I paid the same for the name reservation we should both be able to claim the name at the same time, so it would be fair. 

ArchivedUser

Babe said:

Rumbleforge said:

This is news to me.  I was under the impression that we could reserve our names online, at the same time of opportunity, regardless of whatever phase of development the game is in. 

Is that the case? See if that's the case, and that anyone who donated enough to reserve a name is able to claim a name before higher tier packages then that's what I want. 

If you claimed the name "Adam for example" and you donated the 125, but some other higher tier package with the 400 package claimed "Adam" after you, and they get that name because they're "higher priority" than you, is ridiculous to me. 

That's how I was informed it would be, and to be honest it's got me real upset.

can you cite your references please?
I have been aware since early May to the understanding that once you pledge a certain amount you will get to reserve a name. At no point after reserving that name can it be taken away from you.

I don't want hearsay, please find any and all links to the evidence, that this is very disconcerting if it is true. 
Ty

ArchivedUser

Babe said:

They're saying that Higher packages can reserve names first, then so on, so a 10k will get their chance to reserve a name before anyone else, and then the last person able to would be 125, the higher tier packages paid more for different items, I paid the same for the name reservation we should both be able to claim the name at the same time, so it would be fair. 

That is correct. As for the same name reservation, it's only fair that they cater to those who were able to spend a bit more money into the game in order to support it. It may be that this will all change, as it is subject to change - however, as it stands that's the information we have been given: Higher Tier Packages will receive Name Reservation before others. 

ArchivedUser

Yeah if this had been more clear on the kickstarter page, I may have opted for an even higher level package than I ended up going with at the time. 

ArchivedUser

I'll save it for you if we don't have the same pledge. (though you'll have to remind me in 2 years)

ArchivedUser

The original question that the O.P had, has already been answered and hopefully will spark some awesome interest for conversations. As spoken on Discord as well, it seems there is clarification now.

I'll go ahead and close the thread before it derails into a trollfest as it has already done in other channels.

Please feel free to post more threads about this issue if you want to have a constructive conversation around the topic