Will there be a RP-Forum?

ArchivedUser

Hi Ashes-RP Community!

Since we already discussed alot about will there be  RP-Servers or not in this Thread https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/32093/will-there-be-rp-realms/p1 (there will be none).

Do you think we will at least get a forum section for RPers here on the official ones?

Personally i think it shouldn't be a big Problem to open one. And no, the Lore Forum is not the same as a Forum for the RP-Community.


Edit:
as said by @Shunex
we can take over the fan-story forum as the official inoffical RP-Forum for now
https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/categories/fan-stories


but still for those who want to organize elsewhere....
http://aocrp.shivtr.com/
https://aoc-rp.enjin.com/

ArchivedUser

Have you seen the forums I mean most of them already have some form of role play ^^

ArchivedUser

Your Forum RP, great lord of not alive things, i do not count. 

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Enrif said:

Your Forum RP, great lord of not alive things, i do not count. 

Oh, ok then

ArchivedUser

The tavern threads were relatively rp heavy.

If it's a specific scenario to rp in wouldn't the general thread suffice? Or will the rp forum for discussing specifically rp matters? 

ArchivedUser

nagash said:

Enrif said:

Your Forum RP, great lord of not alive things, i do not count. 

Oh, ok then

Poor Bone man.  I guess your bones are devalued now.  Hold on tight there are many who will help reapply the glue that holds you together.  

ArchivedUser

I would love to see an rp section on the forums, that way I have a good place to put the bios of my characters so that the avid RPers can read it to know that when they meet me in game they can interact in an rp manner with me,(feels like I am rambling a bit) I however would not be using an external forum for the same purposes. (Can't bring myself to having so many places to monitor at once )

ArchivedUser

Usually RP-Forums are dedicated to share character stories, plan Events, looking for RP groups or guilds. discussing different other things related to RP.
If this would be done in the general forum it would go under by all the non-rp specific threads

ArchivedUser

Ninja Shadow said:

I would love to see an rp section on the forums, that way I have a good place to put the bios of my characters so that the avid RPers can read it to know that when they meet me in game they can interact in an rp manner with me,(feels like I am rambling a bit) I however would not be using an external forum for the same purposes. (Can't bring myself to having so many places to monitor at once )

i'd love a official RP Forum too. But more often then not, that is not really supported. And thus people use external forums. enjin.com hosts a lot of rp communities for different games, from swtor,eso,gw2, tsw and others. 

ArchivedUser

@Enrif what do you mean by not really supported? I'm am interested because it would be something that would effect use of an rp sub-forum if we did get one

ArchivedUser

I'm definitely more likely to look into an rp sub forum rather than an external forum. 

I hope the sub forum happens. 

ArchivedUser

let me make 3 examples

SWTOR
http://www.swtor.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=3
there is no roleplay section at all, but many people rp in in that game

ESO
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/
there is a RP and Fiction sections Which means any fanfic about the Nerevarine is there as is any discussion about actual RP

AA
http://forums.archeagegame.com/
there is a RP Section together with Art and Media. So any Screenshot and fanart regarding a PvPer is the same as a roleplayer.

ArchivedUser

Something more of the lines like this?

Sorry for the chicken scratch

ArchivedUser

I assume or at least hope there would be a forum for each server especially since every server may develop differently. If this is the case I would rather have the RP discussions in the server forum. This helps avoid confusion if you're planning an event someone on a different server won't be expecting an event from a different server. Same with RP stories if someone writes about say a dragon that attacked a city on server A if that city doesn't exist on server B people would probably be confused what your talking about.

TLDR: Server forums> General RP forums

ArchivedUser

@Rivest fair point it would be beneficial to separate it out depending on server

ArchivedUser

I think the devs are expecting that we will RP on every server.

Seems to me like it would be great to have each server forum -if we get those- have a way to pin a thread for announcing events?

@Rivest Even the cities with the same name on different servers will likely have different public buildings and freeholds and kings and government officials, so yeah... RP thread/section for each server seems best.

ArchivedUser

Server Forum could work, but the server forum of the unofficial RP server will look vastly different then other server forums. On the other hand, the non-RPers could be annoyed by the RPers in their server forum

example time

WoW-RP Server Forum
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/1182022/

WoW regular Server Forum
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/1180707/

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Enrif said:

Server Forum could work, but the server forum of the unofficial RP server will look vastly different then other server forums. On the other hand, the non-RPers could be annoyed by the RPers in their server forum

Ok all we need if for someone to make thread for now and when the devs make a forum we move other to that one

ArchivedUser

Why would the non-RPers be annoyed and in what ways would the unnoficial RP server forum be different?

ArchivedUser

If there was a lack of subsections in the server forums then it would end up messy, and people get irritated easier when having to deal with the mess all the time

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Dygz said:

Why would the non-RPers be annoyed and in what ways would the unnoficial RP server forum be different?

usually non-RP Server Forums are glorified Looking for Guild/Group/raid sections.

while for RP-Servers the Guild part is true, it also has a lot of event threads, rp/lore discussions, Character drafts, questions about where to start to get into RP.

ArchivedUser

Ah, Thanks for the clarification @Enrif

Ashes isn't a usual MMORPG.
We shouldn't have to do as much LFG outside of the game because everyone supporting a node will already have similar interests and tasks. And we will know where to find people and when to find them right in the game.
Many of the homes are open world - we will know who lives in those homes, when they are usually online, where they typically hang out and what they typically like to do.

Also, all the servers will be interested in sharing their stories because each server will have different stories instead of all servers having the same story.

Just to start...

ArchivedUser

Gamer-Story=/=RP-Story
On regular Servers they usually don't talk about stories, but about gameplay related events. Let's say one of those monster events, a ravaging horde of zombies. For non-RPers that's just a nice cool event where they can fight off those and get some visual rewards.

For RPers on the other hand, it's a damn attack of the Undead! How will this interact with the event that was supposed to be there the next day? Will they delay it in fear the undead return? Will there be rumors about an illness spreading through the Town now? Who brought that Undead to the City in the first place. and so on

ArchivedUser

In the long haul  RPers and others are going to need to help each other in game. The entire idea behind Ashes is "community" involvement which includes everyone no matter what your stance is, even hard core PVPers and PVEers.   Because a RP group joins to help defend or take over another node does not mean they have to give up RP.  

Hard core role playing should be able to improvise enough to join the "heretics"  or include them to build our world.  

 I have seen and visited many forums that had RP sections.  It should be added.  RP in general has it's own set of followers and would give them a place to gather and share ideas and plans.   They are a unique group.  Other then that I think they need to be able to assimilate into the general forums as well without trying to change others or argue the point of RPing. 

We will eventually need individual servers no doubt.  Also because of the diversity in game play and growth on individual servers some type system eventually should be implemented where RPers can have a place to gather, share ideas, stories  and also plan  events that pertain to the servers they are on.

The forums are young yet and still growing.  Hopefully this will be added for them.

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Enrif said:

Gamer-Story=/=RP-Story
On regular Servers they usually don't talk about stories, but about gameplay related events. Let's say one of those monster events, a ravaging horde of zombies. For non-RPers that's just a nice cool event where they can fight off those and get some visual rewards.

For RPers on the other hand, it's a damn attack of the Undead! How will this interact with the event that was supposed to be there the next day? Will they delay it in fear the undead return? Will there be rumors about an illness spreading through the Town now? Who brought that Undead to the City in the first place. and so on

Well an rp story based on a gaming event can easily help to bridge the gap and also encourage non rpers to join in the fun. 

I've taken part in raids and quests where my guild Members regale the other with stories of our heroics in rp form. Strengthing our ties to the both the guild and the lore of the game. 

Good rp, while not necessarily to game play, can really help to improve the game and the community's ties to the game. 

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Enrif said:

Gamer-Story=/=RP-Story
On regular Servers they usually don't talk about stories, but about gameplay related events. Let's say one of those monster events, a ravaging horde of zombies. For non-RPers that's just a nice cool event where they can fight off those and get some visual rewards.

In Ashes I don't think it's just going to be about just about game play events. Everything we do or don't do will have an unexpected out come. We as players determine the future.  Maybe one group wants those undead  to ruin a certain village or town.  
Maybe dungeons and raids fit under your description but general world events probably are going to be an entirely different story.

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CylverRayne said:
Maybe dungeons and raids fit under your description but general world events probably are going to be an entirely different story.

No, World events are just gameplay for most players. The best/worst example are the events in GW2. People don't tell stories about that. They just do it for the loot, otherwise they wouldn't be bothered if the centaurs control half of the map or not.

But to be honest, most RPers don't acknowledge some of those events either. especially repeated events.For those are only gameplay, but don't serve a narrative purpose. Similar to quests.....



The only hope is, Intrepid implements those events really well

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Enrif said:

CylverRayne said:
Maybe dungeons and raids fit under your description but general world events probably are going to be an entirely different story.

No, World events are just gameplay for most players. The best/worst example are the events in GW2. People don't tell stories about that. They just do it for the loot, otherwise they wouldn't be bothered if the centaurs control half of the map or not.

But to be honest, most RPers don't acknowledge some of those events either. especially repeated events.For those are only gameplay, but don't serve a narrative purpose. Similar to quests.....



The only hope is, Intrepid implements those events really well

Yikes. Your idea of role play seems a little, too restrictive for my liking. I personally believe that you can tell stories about anything but that's just me. 

I do not say this with any sarcasm, all the best in finding your rp community! I'll keep a lookout for the events you come up with. 

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AutumnWillow said:

Enrif said:

CylverRayne said:
Maybe dungeons and raids fit under your description but general world events probably are going to be an entirely different story.

No, World events are just gameplay for most players. The best/worst example are the events in GW2. People don't tell stories about that. They just do it for the loot, otherwise they wouldn't be bothered if the centaurs control half of the map or not.

But to be honest, most RPers don't acknowledge some of those events either. especially repeated events.For those are only gameplay, but don't serve a narrative purpose. Similar to quests.....



The only hope is, Intrepid implements those events really well

Yikes. Your idea of role play seems a little, too restrictive for my liking. I personally believe that you can tell stories about anything but that's just me. 

I do not say this with any sarcasm, all the best in finding your rp community! I'll keep a lookout for the events you come up with. 

i'm a german roleplayer, we take everything more serious

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Enrif said:

AutumnWillow said:

Enrif said:

CylverRayne said:
Maybe dungeons and raids fit under your description but general world events probably are going to be an entirely different story.

No, World events are just gameplay for most players. The best/worst example are the events in GW2. People don't tell stories about that. They just do it for the loot, otherwise they wouldn't be bothered if the centaurs control half of the map or not.

But to be honest, most RPers don't acknowledge some of those events either. especially repeated events.For those are only gameplay, but don't serve a narrative purpose. Similar to quests.....



The only hope is, Intrepid implements those events really well

Yikes. Your idea of role play seems a little, too restrictive for my liking. I personally believe that you can tell stories about anything but that's just me. 

I do not say this with any sarcasm, all the best in finding your rp community! I'll keep a lookout for the events you come up with. 

i'm a german roleplayer, we take everything more serious

The worrying thing is I cant tell if your joking or being serious 

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nagash said:

Enrif said:

AutumnWillow said:

Enrif said:

CylverRayne said:
Maybe dungeons and raids fit under your description but general world events probably are going to be an entirely different story.

No, World events are just gameplay for most players. The best/worst example are the events in GW2. People don't tell stories about that. They just do it for the loot, otherwise they wouldn't be bothered if the centaurs control half of the map or not.

But to be honest, most RPers don't acknowledge some of those events either. especially repeated events.For those are only gameplay, but don't serve a narrative purpose. Similar to quests.....



The only hope is, Intrepid implements those events really well

Yikes. Your idea of role play seems a little, too restrictive for my liking. I personally believe that you can tell stories about anything but that's just me. 

I do not say this with any sarcasm, all the best in finding your rp community! I'll keep a lookout for the events you come up with. 

i'm a german roleplayer, we take everything more serious

The worrying thing is I cant tell if your joking or being serious 

well, i am german :P