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Will there be a RP-Forum?

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  • Enrif said:
    nagash said:
    Enrif said:
    Enrif said:
    CylverRayne said:
    Maybe dungeons and raids fit under your description but general world events probably are going to be an entirely different story.
    No, World events are just gameplay for most players. The best/worst example are the events in GW2. People don't tell stories about that. They just do it for the loot, otherwise they wouldn't be bothered if the centaurs control half of the map or not.

    But to be honest, most RPers don't acknowledge some of those events either. especially repeated events.For those are only gameplay, but don't serve a narrative purpose. Similar to quests.....



    The only hope is, Intrepid implements those events really well

    Yikes. Your idea of role play seems a little, too restrictive for my liking. I personally believe that you can tell stories about anything but that's just me. 

    I do not say this with any sarcasm, all the best in finding your rp community! I'll keep a lookout for the events you come up with. 
    i'm a german roleplayer, we take everything more serious
    The worrying thing is I cant tell if your joking or being serious 
    well, i am german :P
    And I'm British but you don't see me drink tea in game 24/7
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited June 2017
    nagash said:
    Enrif said:
    nagash said:
    Enrif said:
    Enrif said:
    CylverRayne said:
    Maybe dungeons and raids fit under your description but general world events probably are going to be an entirely different story.
    No, World events are just gameplay for most players. The best/worst example are the events in GW2. People don't tell stories about that. They just do it for the loot, otherwise they wouldn't be bothered if the centaurs control half of the map or not.

    But to be honest, most RPers don't acknowledge some of those events either. especially repeated events.For those are only gameplay, but don't serve a narrative purpose. Similar to quests.....



    The only hope is, Intrepid implements those events really well

    Yikes. Your idea of role play seems a little, too restrictive for my liking. I personally believe that you can tell stories about anything but that's just me. 

    I do not say this with any sarcasm, all the best in finding your rp community! I'll keep a lookout for the events you come up with. 
    i'm a german roleplayer, we take everything more serious
    The worrying thing is I cant tell if your joking or being serious 
    well, i am german :P
    And I'm British but you don't see me drink tea in game 24/7
    yeah, because it would sip through to the ground, you boney boy
  • Enrif said:
    nagash said:
    Enrif said:
    nagash said:
    Enrif said:
    Enrif said:
    CylverRayne said:
    Maybe dungeons and raids fit under your description but general world events probably are going to be an entirely different story.
    No, World events are just gameplay for most players. The best/worst example are the events in GW2. People don't tell stories about that. They just do it for the loot, otherwise they wouldn't be bothered if the centaurs control half of the map or not.

    But to be honest, most RPers don't acknowledge some of those events either. especially repeated events.For those are only gameplay, but don't serve a narrative purpose. Similar to quests.....



    The only hope is, Intrepid implements those events really well

    Yikes. Your idea of role play seems a little, too restrictive for my liking. I personally believe that you can tell stories about anything but that's just me. 

    I do not say this with any sarcasm, all the best in finding your rp community! I'll keep a lookout for the events you come up with. 
    i'm a german roleplayer, we take everything more serious
    The worrying thing is I cant tell if your joking or being serious 
    well, i am german :P
    And I'm British but you don't see me drink tea in game 24/7
    yeah, because it would sip through to the ground, you boney boy
    The same could be said of your blood when I get my minions to stab you ^^
  • nagash said:
    Enrif said:
    nagash said:
    Enrif said:
    nagash said:
    Enrif said:
    Enrif said:
    CylverRayne said:
    Maybe dungeons and raids fit under your description but general world events probably are going to be an entirely different story.
    No, World events are just gameplay for most players. The best/worst example are the events in GW2. People don't tell stories about that. They just do it for the loot, otherwise they wouldn't be bothered if the centaurs control half of the map or not.

    But to be honest, most RPers don't acknowledge some of those events either. especially repeated events.For those are only gameplay, but don't serve a narrative purpose. Similar to quests.....



    The only hope is, Intrepid implements those events really well

    Yikes. Your idea of role play seems a little, too restrictive for my liking. I personally believe that you can tell stories about anything but that's just me. 

    I do not say this with any sarcasm, all the best in finding your rp community! I'll keep a lookout for the events you come up with. 
    i'm a german roleplayer, we take everything more serious
    The worrying thing is I cant tell if your joking or being serious 
    well, i am german :P
    And I'm British but you don't see me drink tea in game 24/7
    yeah, because it would sip through to the ground, you boney boy
    The same could be said of your blood when I get my minions to stab you ^^
    cometh at me bones

  • Enrif said:
    nagash said:
    Enrif said:
    nagash said:
    Enrif said:
    nagash said:
    Enrif said:
    Enrif said:
    CylverRayne said:
    Maybe dungeons and raids fit under your description but general world events probably are going to be an entirely different story.
    No, World events are just gameplay for most players. The best/worst example are the events in GW2. People don't tell stories about that. They just do it for the loot, otherwise they wouldn't be bothered if the centaurs control half of the map or not.

    But to be honest, most RPers don't acknowledge some of those events either. especially repeated events.For those are only gameplay, but don't serve a narrative purpose. Similar to quests.....



    The only hope is, Intrepid implements those events really well

    Yikes. Your idea of role play seems a little, too restrictive for my liking. I personally believe that you can tell stories about anything but that's just me. 

    I do not say this with any sarcasm, all the best in finding your rp community! I'll keep a lookout for the events you come up with. 
    i'm a german roleplayer, we take everything more serious
    The worrying thing is I cant tell if your joking or being serious 
    well, i am german :P
    And I'm British but you don't see me drink tea in game 24/7
    yeah, because it would sip through to the ground, you boney boy
    The same could be said of your blood when I get my minions to stab you ^^
    cometh at me bones

    If you insist 

  • Yikes. Your idea of role play seems a little, too restrictive for my liking. I personally believe that you can tell stories about anything but that's just me. 

    I do not say this with any sarcasm, all the best in finding your rp community! I'll keep a lookout for the events you come up with. 
    More in a bit because I'm on my phone, but perhaps now people can see the diversity of RP from the other side of the stick.

    I expect in Ashes the normal/regular servers will be ripe for events of the "limited RP" variety -where people basically just respond to the world in character- while not going so far as using their imaginations to conjure invisible props.

    And I think on the forums, people on all servers will want to share stories that expand on the tales of the kings and queens and other prominent player characters in their city.

  • World events will be determined mainly on what the people do, not necessarily on a determined schedule.  Therefore it may be game play but it can be brought on or the outcome determined by role play.  Role play in itself is also game play.

    Btw I am not a devoted role player. Just trying to see all sides of this.

    The unique thing about Ashes is that it offers much for every type of playing.  
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited June 2017
    Just to front load with disclaimers, 
    I think everyone should play the way they like to play - even when they play in ways that I don't like to play.

    I stay immersed in the perspective of my characters as much as possible, but my characters react to everyone who talks about non-existent stuff in the game world in the same way - either ignoring what is said or treating the character as if they're delusional:
    whether that person is talking about Superman or football games or computers or invisible corpses nearby or invisible silver apples nearby.
    I don't like to participate in imaginary events or interact with imaginary invisible props.
    Players can chat about all the stuff I listed, but my character will respond as if that stuff doesn't exist.
    Pretty much in the same fashion as Steve Trevor does with Diana, before she proves what she's saying is real.
    My RP in-game is limited to what the game provides in real-time. 

    If you say you currently need to find a healer because you have a broken leg, I will check your health to see if it's at max. If it's at max, I'll say you don't need a healer because your health is fine.
    If you say you need to see a healer because even though a healer healed your broken leg, it still hurts, I'll help you find a healer.
    --------------

    I probably would not attend "staged events" with imaginary props and with a DM narrating an imaginary plot. What I refer to as "theatre RP".

    The kinds of events I help host and do attend are costume parties and house decorating parties and pet breeding parties and tutorials for how to play your class/archetype. In Landmark, that also included swap meets where we traded blueprints of player-crafted props.

    In Ashes, I expect all servers to have events like celebrations after someone becomes a queen or mayor or official of a city. Perhaps requiring everyone to be in formal wear.
    I expect people on every server to hold parties for Backers - asking that attendants wear Backer-dyed outfits and bring their Backer mounts and Backer pets. And I would expect to see attendants dancing with each other using the Backer dance emote.

    There might be a baking party or circus where crafters share their favorite baked goods and breeders display their weirdest-looking animals.
    Or a gardening party for people to show off their wicked-looking plants.

    Likely, the server forums would be one of the places those types of events are promoted. I consider those to be RP events.

    On the forums, I expect people to share pics and vids and tell stories about those events.
    I also expect people to share fan fiction as well as chronicles about what's actually occurring in their city - whether it's a royal ball or a Spider Demon attack.
    Imaginary or actual news, I expect story-tellers on all the servers to weave in their favorite characters.

    Maybe I didn't actually grab a pie from @Megs or @AutumnWillow or get a blessing from @nagash before defending my town from a Spider Demon attack... but if I like doing that in the game on ocassion, I might weave that into the story of my actual defense of the town.

    I think non-staged, non-DMed, "limited RP" is going to be much more robust and prevalent on all the servers than has been the case in previous MMORPGs.
    And I think we will find quite a bit of fan fiction with prominent townsfolk as characters on all the server forums.

    The forum for the unofficial, designated "RP server" might be more prolific regarding events and RP fan-fiction.
    But, I think all the servers will have "limited RP" RPers who want the same tools.

  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited June 2017
    nagash said:
    And I'm British but you don't see me drink tea in game 24/7
    Why not eh, eh?
    Letting the side down a bit.... *serious face*

    ----

    And @Dygz, I have already requested you leave me alone so please don't speak to me, speak for me, please don't... as you said yourself... drag me into any conversation involving yourself. 

    If I'm interested in responding or getting involved in a topic I'm more than capable of doing so myself (as you will see in a minute.)

    Next time you do, I'm going to flag you because I just don't want anything to do with yourself. You have evidenced that you are unable to take any point of view other than your own and often use negativities to draw the rp community that is 'other' than your style down.

    There is no such thing as "limited rp" "Theatre rp" "normal rp", so please stop trying to squeeze rpers into cliques, doing so is only harmful and creates a 'them and us' situation where one point of view is right and the other wrong.

    There is just RP and it would help us to all draw together and work on the difficulties that any of players who choose any style or RP may be finding together. 

    And for what it's worth.. I've never ever found an rp event with a GM (which is suggesting that someone controls how each player can or cannot act within the bounds of their defined story). 
    No someone comes up with a situation and lets all of the players act in any way that they would choose. 

    No right, no wrong, just rp.

    This thread is not about you lecturing us about how you would choose to roleplay, we understand that by now, so rather than getting off topic how about you include constructive comments addressing the question that @Enrif  was asking, ie: can we get a section in the forums for rp and other rp connected things?

    Oh yes, and had you been positive and constructive in your communications and our interactions, I would have absolutely no issue with seeing things from your point of view, but you kind of stabbed yourself in your own leg with that one. 

    - - 

    And to that OP, I am sure that Intrepid point out  that we already have a roleplay section:

    Fan stories, role-play, fan art, fan sites, and more for Ashes of Creation.

    Use this section of the forums to post your best Ashes of Creation fan stories, Role-Play (RP) stories, etc.

    No, it's not exactly stories as opposed to ongoing forum rp that I believe we're interested in here but that 'etc' would cover that wouldn't it?

    I'd suggest that even though It'd be fantastic to have one subdivided rp area, given how busy Intrepid are at the moment, and their apparent lack of understanding of the needs of rpers as a WHOLE community, maybe we should fill up the forum with activity before we see a need to ask them to subdivide it any further?

    But of course, all of this post is just my own point of view.
  • No lecturing. We're just sharing ideas. Even if our ideas are different.
    You can flag me if you want. You're input is appreciated in any case.
    Especially in a topic regarding RP.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited June 2017
    Enrif said:
    Usually RP-Forums are dedicated to share character stories, plan Events, looking for RP groups or guilds. discussing different other things related to RP.
    If this would be done in the general forum it would go under by all the non-rp specific threads
    So, do you think the Forums that Megs suggested are sufficient for what you were hoping for - especially for now since it's too early to plan events and we won't be forming groups, yet.

    Seems like that works for now, but once we actually have separate servers, I would want a Fan Stories section for each server.

  • well, technically the Fan-Stories Forum is only for that. Stories.
    there is a label for RP but as it reads, its to encourage to write down what has happened in RP and post it there instead of RPing there.
    So i would say this is not what i have had in mind.

    could it work for now? well, only if you think writing down stories is everything to RP, which i don't think it is
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited June 2017
    @Enrif
    Do you have a link of anyone doing the type of Forums RP you're hoping to see?
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited June 2017
    Yep, I'd hope for much the same, more interactive forum rp types, and yes I read that the same way, stories only...

    Just playing devils advocate from intrepid pint of view. After all, what exactly is a 'role play story', that was why I was thinking that they intended this for ALL rp.
    ( and another reason I believe they don't fully understand the requirements of the rp community....)

    So.....do we take over the community story section with forum rp threads, or petition the contacts i.e. @Intrepid @Yaviey @Shunex etc with a request?

    My votes with the latter option :)



  • Good rp, while not necessarily to game play, can really help to improve the game and the community's ties to the game. 
    So much this ^^
  • take over the story section, maybe if there's enough RP they will make one just for it :smile:

  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited June 2017
    well, paint me black and call me @nagash
    didn't expected that coming out of the blue
  • With the madness already on this forum lol. I wouldn't mind seeing one though. Good for the dedicated RPers and let's me occasionally go haywire.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited June 2017
    Shunex said:
    take over the story section, maybe if there's enough RP they will make one just for it :smile:

    now the only thing missing would be some more lore informations. Like, the name of the world and gods ;)
  • Enrif said:
    Shunex said:
    take over the story section, maybe if there's enough RP they will make one just for it :smile:

    now the only thing missing would be some more lore informations. Like, the name of the world and gods ;)
    ^ Please I want to write some short stories but I know jack **** about this world. =<
  • hahahahahahaha
    I guess I just need to leave things at thanks so much for those links!!
  • Bannith said
    Enrif said:
    Shunex said:
    take over the story section, maybe if there's enough RP they will make one just for it :smile:

    now the only thing missing would be some more lore informations. Like, the name of the world and gods ;)
    ^ Please I want to write some short stories but I know jack **** about this world. =<
    Here's hoping the lore keeps on dribbles out slowly  :smiley:

    Until then, there are plenty of non lore stories possible, I've still got to escape the forums long enough to finish off a non lore story of the tulnar..

    Then I'm just going to make up random stories based on no solidity whatsoever, just because I need to learn how to write.
    Join me :D

    There's a story I want to write about how an agnostic Vek got selected to go through the portal...

    A story from the point of view of angels/devils and consideration about what roles they play to the gods.....

    Then there's the whole..  what exactly WAS created that caused the races to flee from the home of the gods terrified for their lives.....

    Oh yep.

    I would love a chance to help encourage active forum rp. .. But encouragement is all I can do... Because it'd be my luck that I'd do or say something that would leave everyone handing on me, only to disappear for a month because health.

    :)

    Le sigh.

    More lore please
  • Megs said:
    Bannith said
    Enrif said:
    Shunex said:
    take over the story section, maybe if there's enough RP they will make one just for it :smile:

    now the only thing missing would be some more lore informations. Like, the name of the world and gods ;)
    ^ Please I want to write some short stories but I know jack **** about this world. =<
    Here's hoping the lore keeps on dribbles out slowly  :smiley:

    Until then, there are plenty of non lore stories possible, I've still got to escape the forums long enough to finish off a non lore story of the tulnar..

    Then I'm just going to make up random stories based on no solidity whatsoever, just because I need to learn how to write.
    Join me :D

    There's a story I want to write about how an agnostic Vek got selected to go through the portal...

    A story from the point of view of angels/devils and consideration about what roles they play to the gods.....

    Then there's the whole..  what exactly WAS created that caused the races to flee from the home of the gods terrified for their lives.....

    Oh yep.

    I would love a chance to help encourage active forum rp. .. But encouragement is all I can do... Because it'd be my luck that I'd do or say something that would leave everyone handing on me, only to disappear for a month because health.

    :)

    Le sigh.

    More lore please
    Well I did write one so far it's already floating out there in the fan stories. I just wish I had more information to build upon makes life easier to flesh out. Really I'm mostly interested in the Tulnar.
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