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Will the narrative allow us to be evil?

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  • Dygz said:
    The two new pics of the the staff and the glove reminded me - the armor colors are supposed to be determined by the race.
    And then we should be able to dye them.

    Has me wondering sets might look like once they're dyed.
    Especially ones that might be blood-stained...would we be able to dye the color of blood?
    Hmm should be doable unless blood red is part of the kickstarter dye exclusive set.
  • Ha. But I really meant can we dye the red blood green or blue or black.
    More about whether dye could be applied to affect the color of the blood...
    Just a curiosity...
  • No idea, guess we'll see. Only info we have is what they said on the livestream about the dye system. They made it sound like we'd have a wheel to pick a color from when we craft the item. Guess we'll see when it's more fleshed out.
  • Love seeing @lexmax and @Dygz giving their thoughts on things.  Always gets my brain thinking!!!  Thank you both!


  • No idea, guess we'll see. Only info we have is what they said on the livestream about the dye system. They made it sound like we'd have a wheel to pick a color from when we craft the item. Guess we'll see when it's more fleshed out.

    Yeah. I'm wondering about which sections of the armor will be affected by the dyes, but there's no way to know until we can test the dye options. Just something to wonder about in the meantime. ;p
  • Dygz said:
    No idea, guess we'll see. Only info we have is what they said on the livestream about the dye system. They made it sound like we'd have a wheel to pick a color from when we craft the item. Guess we'll see when it's more fleshed out.

    Yeah. I'm wondering about which sections of the armor will be affected by the dyes, but there's no way to know until we can test the dye options. Just something to wonder about in the meantime. ;p
    I am also wondering if they are one time use or you will be able to build a kit like in Elder Scrolls Online where once you have the dye color you can use it on any piece of armor.  I would love to have more of a "kit" but i understand if this is just going to be another part of the economy where they are one time use.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited July 2017
    Sintu said:
    Dygz said:
    No idea, guess we'll see. Only info we have is what they said on the livestream about the dye system. They made it sound like we'd have a wheel to pick a color from when we craft the item. Guess we'll see when it's more fleshed out.

    Yeah. I'm wondering about which sections of the armor will be affected by the dyes, but there's no way to know until we can test the dye options. Just something to wonder about in the meantime. ;p
    I am also wondering if they are one time use or you will be able to build a kit like in Elder Scrolls Online where once you have the dye color you can use it on any piece of armor.  I would love to have more of a "kit" but i understand if this is just going to be another part of the economy where they are one time use.
    This is from the google doc: 

    Will there be a dye system for gear?

    • There will be dyes. But will likely be accessible behind achievements/crafting walls. And will be available in the cosmetic shop. There will also be professions that can craft dyes. Dyes from KS pledges will be permanent.

    That it's part of a crafting system makes me think it'll be a one time use. They said the ks reward would swap out a crafted dye so I'm sure a store bought one will be the same maybe?
  • I am sure you will have to craft a dye and then Apply the KS dye to the crafted one to make it hte color of the KS exclusive.

  • I think you are both correct...was just hoping.   :)
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited July 2017
    Ooops. I didn't read far enough up in the quoted posts.
  • Sorry if someone already answered your question. During a Q&A they talk a little bit about being "evil".

    Skip to 15:28
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/147396926 
  • Sorry if someone already answered your question. During a Q&A they talk a little bit about being "evil".

    Skip to 15:28
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/147396926 
    Thanks for reminding me about this discussion @Mooseknee10! If the "dark path" is based on your choice of religion then would be a fantastic way to create an good/evil "alignment" that influences every aspect of your character. I can't wait to learn more!
  • @lexmax Oh absolutely! There could really be some interesting aspects that come along with alignments. Like you said, can't wait to hear more!
  • Ashes of Creation Kickstarter Livestream May 26, 2017  mark 15:28


    STEVEN: The creation of this universe that exists within Ashes of Creation was the result of a group of gods, of beings...there were 10 of them. And there was a celestial struggle in this world -in this universe- that resulted in a fraction of those gods.
    And there exists within this story two components of [shrug] good and evil, so to speak.
    And it's potentially possible for some storylines to relate to that evil path if your character should choose to...

    JEFFREY: It's a darker path. It's not necessarily evil. But, it's dark.

    STEVEN: Yeah, that's true. But, yes, the short answer to the questions is:
    There is a darker path that you could walk should you choose.


    Ashes of Creation Final Kickstarter Livestream June 1, 2017  mark 49:32


    NAGASH: Will you be adding a way for players to be good or evil?

    JEFFREY: We kind of addressed this in a previous question, but probably not in that sense. Not in a dark and light kind of way.
    Uh...I didn't mean to say that...!!! in that way, because they don't do it in that way I don't think. I meant in the sort of... like Star Wars way, where... you know... 

    STEVEN: [hysterical laughter]

    JEFFREY: It's fair use!
    But that doesn't mean that your gameplay can't effect it.


    STEVEN: I think that we're going more down the route of corruption and non-corruption.
    As opposed to darkness and the light of...whatever. But, you may extrapolate as you may from there as the player.

    JEFFREY: Right. Your behavior is going to determine that more than us prescribing it for you.

    STEVEN: Right. And evil is such a permanent term.
    You may as a player choose to do evil things and you may choose to do good things. And we don't want to give those descriptions to you ourselves.
  • It's going to be more corruption /non-corruption in the devs' Narrative.

    Interesting tidbit.
    10 gods created the universe, but only 6 gods available to worship in the Religion system.
  • Dygz said:
    It's going to be more corruption /non-corruption in the devs' Narrative.

    Interesting tidbit.
    10 gods created the universe, but only 6 gods available to worship in the Religion system.
    Yes, I noticed that :) Was it a slip up or are there yet to be discovered gods? Perhaps titans sealed away somewhere waiting to be unleashed?

    And I wish IS would clarify or discriminate the term "corruption". Is it one thing or are they using the term loosely to describe different things. To me the concept of PvP corruption is based on player choice, whereas the corruption in the lore is endemic to the world, so in the absence of any clarification, I doubt that corruption is a unified concept.
  • I'm wondering if 4 of the gods might have succumbed to corruption - perhaps destroyed while we were away.

    I think that PvP corruption in the lore is a form of the curse inflicting the world, in general.
    Possibly a divine curse.
  • Dygz said:
    I think that PvP corruption in the lore is a form of the curse inflicting the world, in general.
    Possibly a divine curse.
    Then I'm worried that "unsanctioned" player behavior embedded in the lore will legitimize gankers.
  • Please unpack that concept for me...
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited July 2017
    The two having nothing to do with each other.  The corruption mechanic for player killing is just the term they are using for the penalty given for killing a green player.  It has nothing to do with the lore corruption that made everyone leave the planet...at least that is my take on it from seeing the streams.

    But what do i know???

    Basically agreeing with your point Lexmax you made four posts up.
  • Dygz said:
    Please unpack that concept for me...
    You said "I think that PvP corruption in the lore is a form of the curse inflicting the world". I infer from your statement that "PK griefing is RP canon".

    My opinion is that someone is red flagged because their player behavior is toxic and this shouldn't it be justifiable in any context. Therefore the concept of PvP "corruption" should be distinguished from the concept of corruption in the lore.
  • I guess I don't see it as any more justifiable.
    That's the part I'm confused about.
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