Names

ArchivedUser

The wording for it (Character name reservation - 1 Name reservation)
 makes it seem they won't go with any account name reservation like you said.

Why? Because with @Account you'll have that for every single character, and would only need one reservation (it does specify character name, and that you only get one reservation, hinting at possible more buyable later?)

They will probably sell more name reservations later when we're nearing release. And it might be included in the pre-order packs that we will probably see nearing release.

ArchivedUser

These two quotes and a livestream where they stated that name reservations would be released based on pledge level is all we have atm. If anyone else has other info please link it.

Steven-08/10/2017

More on name reservations will be announced as alpha 1 draws closer

ArchivedUser

I don't want my account name associated with any of my character names. If this is how the reservation works I would be disappointed.

ArchivedUser

Azathoth said:

I don't want my account name associated with any of my character names. If this is how the reservation works I would be disappointed.

Yep, removes a layer of possible security. If people can guess your account name from the naming convention, just gets them closer to a hack.

ArchivedUser

@UnknownSystemError no that's all we have, I just speculated based on the wording of the pledge reward. We'll know more about name reservation closer to release I bet.

@Azathoth Agreed.

ArchivedUser

UnknownSystemError said:

Basically what I meant is if you're a dick in game, people are going to remember. You can name your character "L33tNoobSmasher" or "Daenerys Targaryen" all day long. If you are a nice, social player I am going to group with you. If you are just a whiny pain in the ass every time you are asked to an event or group, you won't be grouping with me. Since there is no groupfinder mechanic that will auto group you with others, those that persist in being entitled assholes will find themselves marginalized pretty quickly.

True. I suppose these are the perks of having non-instanced dungeons. A player that is known to be greedy or griefy will be blacklisted. Haha.

ArchivedUser

The team has repeatedly said it looks at every conventional MMO system, deconstructs it and questions whether it should be a part of the game and if so, how it should. A system included in the game shouldn't just be bolted on because that's how MMORPGs have done it in the past.

Singular naming conventions are a horrible design, lazy in implementation, that could be forgiven in a first gen game, but not something new reimagining what an MMO is and should be.

There is no reason for a game trying to emulate a virtual world where character names should be unique. It's an immersion breaker and a ridiculous convention.

Additionally anyone can look at the slew of games preceding where singular naming has caused no end of grief for both the developer and players. They should really think through this, look at history, and find a proper solution - not the easy one.

ArchivedUser

T-Elf said:

I got the impression it will be First Names with Family names optional.

I really hope so, I hate finding out my name has already been taken. It's a modern mmo thing to have last names so people can always have their chosen name.

ArchivedUser

I'd love a combination of first name and a family name, where one of those should be unique, and other can be shared.

Or where combination has to be unique, but separately they can be shared.

No #123 names please.

ArchivedUser

Valentines said:

T-Elf said:

I got the impression it will be First Names with Family names optional.

I really hope so, I hate finding out my name has already been taken. It's a modern mmo thing to have last names so people can always have their chosen name.

You may have misunderstood; the first name is unique with last name being optional and not unique.

ArchivedUser

T-Elf said:

Valentines said:

T-Elf said:

I got the impression it will be First Names with Family names optional.

I really hope so, I hate finding out my name has already been taken. It's a modern mmo thing to have last names so people can always have their chosen name.

You may have misunderstood; the first name is unique with last name being optional and not unique.

That's not good. =c I'd rather the whole first and last name together be unique but anyone can have at least the first name.

It's 2017, who makes first names unique anymore in mmos?

ArchivedUser

It's 2017, who makes first names unique anymore in mmos?

Those that are tired of seeing 50 variations of Drizzt, Sephiroth, and Harambe's running around their servers.

ArchivedUser

Please just no numbers and no international characters: ö, û, ə, etc

ArchivedUser

Wow, so family names not being unique makes total sense. The combination of first/last with limit on first having to be unique seems like a missed opportunity.

With the first having to be unique I would think there would be more variations of popular names as opposed to the name itself. I'm not sure which I would like less.

ArchivedUser

So is it confirmed that your account name will be your family name? and will it be fixed as to whether or not it appears before your character name or after?

ArchivedUser

All names should be randomly generated based on race.  Did you get to name yourself when born? 

That way there won't be a Leet Epeen or WTF Pwn running around.....

ArchivedUser

Crymoar said:

All names should be randomly generated based on race.  Did you get to name yourself when born? 

That way there won't be a Leet Epeen or WTF Pwn running around.....

wheres the fun in that 

ArchivedUser

Elder said:

So is it confirmed that your account name will be your family name? and will it be fixed as to whether or not it appears before your character name or after?

So far, I have only heard Steven say first names confirmed (so far) and last names being optional.

ArchivedUser

The reason there are so many immersion breaking names is because when you're the 10 millionth player, there are very few options left, especially when everyone has  3+ characters.
So I'd vote for a unique combination of non unique first names and surnames, both are visible in any chat functions, and if in the game world folks choose to hide one or the other, an inspection would let you know who you're taking to \ groups with...

ArchivedUser

@Crymoar, nothing is legally preventing me from changing my first, middle, or last name. We might not name ourselves, but by time we are given legal rights (at least in America) we have the legal right to rename ourselves.

People, for a variety of reasons, have changed their names to incredibly odd ones. I don't know if a court would allow "WTF Pwn" though...

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Megs said:

The reason there are so many immersion breaking names is because when you're the 10 millionth player, there are very few options left, especially when everyone has  3+ characters.

Not trying to be contrary but I have been able to make characters in games with well-established player bases over many years without any trouble. Once the game releases I assume name reservation will only be server specific (like every other MMO I have encountered) so there could be a number of Megs on different servers as we won’t be interacting with different servers.

You only need to worry about those on your server (so only in the tens of thousands!). Hopefully everyone will be able to get their first choice (unless you are after Legolas).

I’ve never used a second name. I have played games that had them as optional but I never bothered. Just not my cup of tea,I guess. I hope they are an option for those that like them, but not compulsory for those that don’t care. Then everyone can be happy.

ArchivedUser

@Bajjer, if your chosen name was already taken on a server you really wanted on (guild/friends/etc.) would you use a family name if it allowed you to have the first name you want?

I am not trying to argue for mandatory family names, I am just wandering if there would be a situation that would prompt you to use the option. I have never used a family name with any of my characters, but I am considering it knowing it might be an option.

ArchivedUser

Bajjer said:

Megs said:

The reason there are so many immersion breaking names is because when you're the 10 millionth player, there are very few options left, especially when everyone has  3+ characters.

Not trying to be contrary but I have been able to make characters in games with well-established player bases over many years without any trouble. Once the game releases I assume name reservation will only be server specific (like every other MMO I have encountered) so there could be a number of Megs on different servers as we won’t be interacting with different servers.

Mmmm, I guesa I've just been more unlucky \ picky then when it comes to name selection, thats posaibly though because I will be choosing names that are suitable for the rp purposes I have in mind for the character...

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Azathoth said:

@Bajjer, if your chosen name was already taken on a server you really wanted on (guild/friends/etc.) would you use a family name if it allowed you to have the first name you want?

I am not trying to argue for mandatory family names, I am just wandering if there would be a situation that would prompt you to use the option. I have never used a family name with any of my characters, but I am considering it knowing it might be an option.

Nah, I'd just change the name. I have always either been able to get my name or been able to come up with another without a problem (only happened twice). 

Might have more to do with having lots of names floating around in my head for writing.

I know some people I have played with had last names but I never knew them as such. Even some long first names just get abbreviated in a lot of cases.

So it's not important to me but happy for others to have everything they want. 

ArchivedUser

Azathoth said:

@Crymoar, nothing is legally preventing me from changing my first, middle, or last name. We might not name ourselves, but by time we are given legal rights (at least in America) we have the legal right to rename ourselves.

People, for a variety of reasons, have changed their names to incredibly odd ones. I don't know if a court would allow "WTF Pwn" though...

I agree so, if you are really wanting to change your random name, perhaps that could be handled in game with an application and fees to a court that appears in nodes at the Village / City / Metropolis level.

ArchivedUser

@Crymoar, fair.

Edit: but I got this name reservation form saying nobody can buy mine...

ArchivedUser

Azathoth said:

@Crymoar, fair.

Edit: but I got this name reservation form saying nobody can buy mine...

It's still first come first served for people who have the reservation

ArchivedUser

@Nagash the people who bought the higher packages get first priority, at least that's what i remember from the discord. 

ArchivedUser

Elder said:

@Nagash the people who bought the higher packages get first priority, at least that's what i remember from the discord. 

Yes that's true and like @Nagash says, still no guarantees.

ArchivedUser

What I would like to see.. account wide name that can be toggled to show on and off + Character specific name above or beside it. Cash shop scroll available to change account wide name, and some kind of in-game system that costs a lot of in-game currency for changing character specific name.