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cosmetic prices make my face sad :(

I love the cosmetics in the store but sometimes I feel as though the prices are a little too high. of course I know I don't have to buy anything, but I would love to help promote the game in its early stages.

I hope that in the future a skin or pet would be under 20$. if armor skins and pets are going be the same prices as they are now I don't imagine me buying stuff from the store which sucks to say cause I love cosmetics.

I think if some of the skins were more on the lines of 10.00 to 15.00 it would be easier, but this is just me and my opinions. 

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  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited April 2018
    I've looked into the shop. You can buy the following things:

    * A package with cosmetics and alpha / beta options + a few months of subscription
    * A PAX dog for 15$
    * A PAX dress for 25$
    * A PAX ship or a stone (?) for your house (25$ and 10$)

    Cosmetics only are fairly priced if you'd ask me. And I'm sure there will be more coming out once the game is 90% done :)
  • They have to keep the items equally priced to the packages they are associated too. I understand the pricing and support it wholeheartedly, naturally I'd like to spend less but at the end of the day I get amazing cosmetics and I support the project.
  • I agree, 25 dollars for a costume?

    I have bought full games for less than that.
  • Guess that's something you'll never get again because it's Pax only. I think regular items will be a bit cheaper.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited April 2018
    Mmm  i see if the prices are just a percentage of the current packages then later come launch prices should be cheaper.
  • These prices aren't too far out of line with current examples from other games.  I would imagine we might get some items that vary a little in price but looking at FFXIV you have glamour armor around $12-$18  mounts in the $25-$30 range and mounts in WoW are all $25 as well.  WoW also has helms that are $15 each.

    As long as we get a little variation in price and the occasional sale I don't think these prices are unreasonable (though the cheaper they are the more I can buy so I'm not saying I would mind them being lower). 

    We also have to weigh that the examples I gave of FFXIV and WoW both also charge for the game and expansions so with Ashes that money being saved could be used to grab a few items from the shop to provide the same level of support as other games demand just to play. 
  • It sure is expensive but I rather expensive cosmetics that reduce the chance of IS adding anything close to p2w into the store compared to lowering the prices a bit.
  • I would certainly consider buying more if the prices were lower; but at $15 to $25+ a pop I just can't justify paying that much.  Lower prices would encourage more volume which I think would work to Ashes advantage; unless the goal is to encourage scarcity.  
  • My main beef with the prices is mainly the conversion rates. Going from USD to AUD really attacks the wallet. If I was to buy the current "Protector's Armor" that's in the store, which is $25 USD, converting that to AUD is $32.16! That's ridiculous for a cosmetic.. But that's just for one! If I wish to buy multiple, that stacking conversion price just gets steeper and steeper. I really want to buy the cosmetics they have on offer. It would be a shame to miss out on some of them. But the prices do make it hard to justify a purchase, and even harder to keep coming back monthly to keep buying them.
  • conversion to my poor country's economy is as if the protector's armor was 75$

    not that the currency conversion works like that but the economy conversion meaning I can buy here with 25$ what you can buy in the US with 75$
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited April 2018
    I think they are fairly priced considering the amount of work that will go into implementing them into the game. 
    A pet skin for $15 and a armor skin for $25 seems reasonable to me and not that pricey. 
    They also have single weapon skins like the Shield this month for only $5 if you want to contribute to the development and also get a neat shield. 
  • I think the real problem isn't a $15 or $25 purchase here or there. It's when you want multiple items and then the store is refreshed *monthly* to open people to more possible items they may want. I personally would like to see monthly bundle packs with a certain % off the price for people buying multiple items. It would make buying in bulk less daunting and more appealing to the wallet. It will also help those of us who would like to buy a few cosmetics, who will also be paying a currency conversion.
  • I'm going to throw this idea out here.
    maybe if you buy january's mount skin, you could get something like 20% discount on the second mount skin you want to buy, and then if you buy a second mount skin you get an additional 20% discount on the next for a total of 40% on the third and perharps up to a 50% discount after the third purchase.
    same for costume, pet, vehicle, freehold, or accesory.

    just a thought that poped into my head when I read @Zainox comment.
  • Zainox said:
    I think the real problem isn't a $15 or $25 purchase here or there. It's when you want multiple items and then the store is refreshed *monthly* to open people to more possible items they may want. I personally would like to see monthly bundle packs with a certain % off the price for people buying multiple items. It would make buying in bulk less daunting and more appealing to the wallet. It will also help those of us who would like to buy a few cosmetics, who will also be paying a currency conversion.


    This is actually not a bad idea, and would in theory increase the sales of the cosmetics.
    I did wonder why Intrepid didn't bundle the cosmetics into a cosmetic only pack, without the game access and Embers. Slap a 10-15% discount on the bundle and people would eat it up.
  • Zainox said:
    I think the real problem isn't a $15 or $25 purchase here or there. It's when you want multiple items and then the store is refreshed *monthly* to open people to more possible items they may want. I personally would like to see monthly bundle packs with a certain % off the price for people buying multiple items. It would make buying in bulk less daunting and more appealing to the wallet. It will also help those of us who would like to buy a few cosmetics, who will also be paying a currency conversion.


    This is actually not a bad idea, and would in theory increase the sales of the cosmetics.
    I did wonder why Intrepid didn't bundle the cosmetics into a cosmetic only pack, without the game access and Embers. Slap a 10-15% discount on the bundle and people would eat it up.
  • For the right cosmetics I'll pay what they are asking.

    The thing is, I don't NEED to have all the cosmetics like some people do who enjoy collecting. It would be nice if they were a bit cheaper, but hey, Intrepid is a business after all, and they need money. The prices they ate asking are on par with other companies. However, this companies have a game that's already out as well.

    So as steep as they are, I can see why, and it doesn't bother me all that much. But again, I'm not a big collector. Maybe Intrepid could think about "budget" cosmetics in the future.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited April 2018
    One big thing to remeber is that these are only available for a limited time.

    Other games make a cosmetic and its available for years... these are for a month.

    Which is awesome how unique and limited they are but that also increases their production cost.
  • Essentially, the point of the cash shop is to be 'limited edition' cosmetics as opposed to the non-stop get what you want when you want market place.
    ie. Exclusives.

    Exclusive is a dangerous word. It implies you wont get anything like it. Which is counter to the original ethos that steven espoused. Where you would be able to get equivalent stuff in game. Not withstanding you could get awesome stuff in game as well as awesome unique stuff in the cash shop that arent identical.

    I will see where this goes with baited breath.
  • Essentially, the point of the cash shop is to be 'limited edition' cosmetics as opposed to the non-stop get what you want when you want market place.
    ie. Exclusives.

    Exclusive is a dangerous word. It implies you wont get anything like it. Which is counter to the original ethos that steven espoused. Where you would be able to get equivalent stuff in game. Not withstanding you could get awesome stuff in game as well as awesome unique stuff in the cash shop that arent identical.

    I will see where this goes with baited breath.


    As long as there will be some cool cosmetic stuff in game at launch, and regular future content, I wouldn't be upset about a few exclusive cosmetics to help continue fund the game during its production.

    My personal opinion is that as long as Intrepid does not end up selling power, they can sell whatever they want to help make the game better in the long term.
  • Santy182 said:
    I'm going to throw this idea out here.
    maybe if you buy january's mount skin, you could get something like 20% discount on the second mount skin you want to buy, and then if you buy a second mount skin you get an additional 20% discount on the next for a total of 40% on the third and perharps up to a 50% discount after the third purchase.
    same for costume, pet, vehicle, freehold, or accesory.

    just a thought that poped into my head when I read @Zainox comment.
    As much as I would love those discount prices. They just wouldn't let the prices stoop that low. It would be bad for their business and profits.
    Zinnie said:
    Zainox said:
    I think the real problem isn't a $15 or $25 purchase here or there. It's when you want multiple items and then the store is refreshed *monthly* to open people to more possible items they may want. I personally would like to see monthly bundle packs with a certain % off the price for people buying multiple items. It would make buying in bulk less daunting and more appealing to the wallet. It will also help those of us who would like to buy a few cosmetics, who will also be paying a currency conversion.


    This is actually not a bad idea, and would in theory increase the sales of the cosmetics.
    I did wonder why Intrepid didn't bundle the cosmetics into a cosmetic only pack, without the game access and Embers. Slap a 10-15% discount on the bundle and people would eat it up.
    I know I would be a lot more keen to buy them if they were bundled! I could only assume others would too.

  • Essentially, the point of the cash shop is to be 'limited edition' cosmetics as opposed to the non-stop get what you want when you want market place.
    ie. Exclusives.

    Exclusive is a dangerous word. It implies you wont get anything like it. Which is counter to the original ethos that steven espoused. Where you would be able to get equivalent stuff in game. Not withstanding you could get awesome stuff in game as well as awesome unique stuff in the cash shop that arent identical.

    I will see where this goes with baited breath.


    As long as there will be some cool cosmetic stuff in game at launch, and regular future content, I wouldn't be upset about a few exclusive cosmetics to help continue fund the game during its production.

    My personal opinion is that as long as Intrepid does not sell power, they can sell whatever they want to help make the game better. 
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited April 2018
    Problem is that most companies now days base item prices on average US paycheck, while in other parts of world average paychecks are up to 10 times less.

    So while 25$ might not mean a lot for an American, It can mean a great deal for player from another part of the world.

    Companies are forgetting that their games are global, and that not only Americans are playing.

    Or possibly, not forgetting, just not caring. I guess they will sell enough of cosmetics to US players, so who cares about players from other parts of the world.
  • Ideally players should have an option to register and prove with some ID / documents (voluntarily / optionally) where they live. And then they would get access to prices that are based on average paycheck from their own country.

    Well, at least one can dream for something like this. Highly doubt we will see this any time soon.
  • Gothix said:
    Ideally players should have an option to register and prove with some ID / documents (voluntarily / optionally) where they live. And then they would get access to prices that are based on average paycheck from their own country.

    Well, at least one can dream for something like this. Highly doubt we will see this any time soon.

    That would be way to complicated and require a lot of extra work for Intrepid.  
  • Heads up in the live stream on from PAX on Sunday Steven said you will be able to get cool cosmetics from doing achievements in the game.  He said he didn't want to pigeon hold into having to buy stuff just to look good.
  • I love in-game cosmetics. However I don't like spending money on costumes either if they're that expensive. But hopefully the game allows you to get costumes as a reward as part of quests etc
  • Slyphus said:
    I love in-game cosmetics. However I don't like spending money on costumes either if they're that expensive. But hopefully the game allows you to get costumes as a reward as part of quests etc

    Don't worry, Steven has said multiple times that they intend to have cool looking cosmetics as normal in-game rewards.

    Intrepid don't want the BDO model where the normal armors look boring, but cash shop stuff looks awesome.
  • Oh, thats good to hear! BDO  non-payed armors looked like pure garbage, literally there was a potato sack.
    I will be happy to help IS by buying a few cosmetics but i dont want BDO prices. Armor sets were more expensive than a real t-shirt xD. 

    I hope they ll show us some armor sets before release.
  • Quev said:
    Oh, thats good to hear! BDO  non-payed armors looked like pure garbage, literally there was a potato sack.
    I will be happy to help IS by buying a few cosmetics but i dont want BDO prices. Armor sets were more expensive than a real t-shirt xD. 

    I hope they ll show us some armor sets before release.

    Since Ashes is a Subscription based game, they don't need to lure people into the cash shop, but use the cash shop as a supplementary system to help fund stuff like cosmetics and other cool stuff in the game.

    The cosmetics in the cash shop are quite expensive, but you have to realize the time and effort it takes to model them, and then import them into the engine, and Intrepid in the end do want to make some money selling them to fund other part of the game. 
  • Quev said:
    Oh, thats good to hear! BDO  non-payed armors looked like pure garbage, literally there was a potato sack.
    I will be happy to help IS by buying a few cosmetics but i dont want BDO prices. Armor sets were more expensive than a real t-shirt xD. 

    I hope they ll show us some armor sets before release.

    Since Ashes is a Subscription based game, they don't need to lure people into the cash shop, but use the cash shop as a supplementary system to help fund stuff like cosmetics and other cool stuff in the game.

    The cosmetics in the cash shop are quite expensive, but you have to realize the time and effort it takes to model them, and then import them into the engine, and Intrepid in the end do want to make some money selling them to fund other parts of the game.

     
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