Class Balancing

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nagash said:

AutumnLeaf said:

nagash said:

AutumnLeaf said:

nagash said:

if only it was 93,312 types of undead. I can dream

You probably can't name that many types of undead...

Angel of decay

Animus

Atropal 

Baelnorn

Banshee,

Blaspheme

Bleakborn

Blood Amniote

Bloodmote Cloud

Bone Rat Swarm

Boneclaw

Boneyard

Brain In A Jar

Cinderspawn

Corpse Gatherer

Corpse Rat Swarm

Death Knight

Deathlock

Desiccator

Draugr

Entomber

Entropic Reaper

Forsaken Shell

Ghast

Ghost

Ghoul

Grave Dirt Golem

Hulking Corpse

Lich

Mummy

Necromental

Necropolitan

Nighthaunt

Nightshade

Nightwalker

Phantom

Plague Blight

Poltergeist

Rainment
reaper

Revenant
scion

Shadow

Skeleton

Skin kite

Skirr

Skulking Cyst

Slaymate

Spectre

Tomb Mote

Vampire

Visage

Wheep

Wight

Wraith

Zombie

Do you want more ^^

Yeah I want 93,312 types and please stop making up gruesome names that fit the undead theme.... get me a character sheet for every single type then we'll talk

you know will but are you sure you want the backlash ^^

Say what ? xD 

ArchivedUser

nagash said:

VictorTheUndead said:

Well if I as a necromancer can spawn something like this then I wouldn't really care about the undead tree/races.

not bad but still not as good as krell

Indeed , but since the Death knight is only level 35 (base atk of a lvl 30 and defense/damage resistance/armor of a lvl 40) there are limits for his strength , we can't expect much from a undead which his common objective is work as a meat shield/scare the hell out of new players. 

ArchivedUser

nagash said:

VictorTheUndead said:

Well if I as a necromancer can spawn something like this then I wouldn't really care about the undead tree/races.

not bad but still not as good as krell

I thought Krell was either a shampoo or something whales ate.

ArchivedUser

VictorTheUndead said:

nagash said:

VictorTheUndead said:

Well if I as a necromancer can spawn something like this then I wouldn't really care about the undead tree/races.

not bad but still not as good as krell

Indeed , but since the Death knight is only level 35 (base atk of a lvl 30 and defense/damage resistance/armor of a lvl 40) there are limits for his strength , we can't expect much from a undead which his common objective is work as a meat shield/scare the hell out of new players. 

Don't forget the true value of a Death Knight - they can survive the first hit that would "kill" them, regardless of its strength. They are essentially cannon fodder+1. That, and the fact that any creature killed by them becomes an undead Thrall with half the strength of the DK itself.

ArchivedUser

Sikuba said:

VictorTheUndead said:

nagash said:

VictorTheUndead said:

Well if I as a necromancer can spawn something like this then I wouldn't really care about the undead tree/races.

not bad but still not as good as krell

Indeed , but since the Death knight is only level 35 (base atk of a lvl 30 and defense/damage resistance/armor of a lvl 40) there are limits for his strength , we can't expect much from a undead which his common objective is work as a meat shield/scare the hell out of new players. 

Don't forget the true value of a Death Knight - they can survive the first hit that would "kill" them, regardless of its strength. They are essentially cannon fodder+1. That, and the fact that any creature killed by them becomes an undead Thrall with half the strength of the DK itself.

Krell is a named undead known as a wight king. Wight kings are powerful Undead and are on the same scale as elder Vampires (think a level 60 vampire in overlord). A Wight King's weapons are wrapped in baleful energy the merest touch of their blade can drain the life from their foes, or slice through flesh and bone with ease. For the more powerful wright kings, they use the Black axe which sunders all armour. Every wright kings are clad in ancient armour, and their flesh all but withered away, there is little for an adversary to cut or stab. Even to stand before one of these skeletal warriors of antiquity takes an extreme effort of will.

While the death knight is stunning and I love it it's just not up to the level of a wight king I would say maybe grave guard or tomb guard would be a better match as they are making up the main force of powerful necromancers saying that I would love to see a crypt horror or an ushabti  fight a death knight 

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I'm pretty sure than the average Death Knight is around 2 meters tall and around lvl 35~ (at least for what I can see in both anime and Light Novel) put him against a creature double his level is asking a bit too much , but yes I wonder what would happen if he fought against other types of undeads.

ArchivedUser

Sikuba said:

VictorTheUndead said:

nagash said:

VictorTheUndead said:

Well if I as a necromancer can spawn something like this then I wouldn't really care about the undead tree/races.

not bad but still not as good as krell

Indeed , but since the Death knight is only level 35 (base atk of a lvl 30 and defense/damage resistance/armor of a lvl 40) there are limits for his strength , we can't expect much from a undead which his common objective is work as a meat shield/scare the hell out of new players. 

Don't forget the true value of a Death Knight - they can survive the first hit that would "kill" them, regardless of its strength. They are essentially cannon fodder+1. That, and the fact that any creature killed by them becomes an undead Thrall with half the strength of the DK itself.

Yes Yes and those undead by them self can create other undeads. Pretty nasty to deal with if you are alone.

ArchivedUser

Sikuba said:

VictorTheUndead said:

nagash said:

VictorTheUndead said:

Well if I as a necromancer can spawn something like this then I wouldn't really care about the undead tree/races.

not bad but still not as good as krell

Indeed , but since the Death knight is only level 35 (base atk of a lvl 30 and defense/damage resistance/armor of a lvl 40) there are limits for his strength , we can't expect much from a undead which his common objective is work as a meat shield/scare the hell out of new players. 

Don't forget the true value of a Death Knight - they can survive the first hit that would "kill" them, regardless of its strength. They are essentially cannon fodder+1. That, and the fact that any creature killed by them becomes an undead Thrall with half the strength of the DK itself.

Yes Yes and those undead by them self can create other undeads. Pretty nasty to deal with if you are alone.

ArchivedUser

VictorTheUndead said:

I'm pretty sure than the average Death Knight is around 2 meters tall and around lvl 35~ (at least for what I can see in both anime and Light Novel) put him against a creature double his level is asking a bit too much , but yes I wonder what would happen if he fought against other types of undeads.

ushabti  vs death knight I would love to see that fight ^^

ArchivedUser

Reserructing one powerful creature is cool and all, but I believe a swarm of minions is much more satisfying. I maimed Protoss in SC2 but always loved the amount of units the Zerg could pump out and how individually they are weak but strong together.

Unfortunately  I don’t think that is going to be how the necromancer will work in AoC. But if I can summon a static zombie/skelly wall or a poison AoE nuke I’m down for that.

ArchivedUser

Theres nothing to stop you , as long as you are powerful enough you can summon a variety of Death Knights or even Higher entities as long as you are powerful enough, at least that's how I think than an High lvl necromancer should work, yes and that part of a skeleton wall.