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NO invisible walls!!! (WalkMesh)
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I don't mean magical or hidden walls or doors. I mean game breaking solid air.
I hate trying to jump off a cliff, climb through a window, go over a large rock, walk through a light plant, hop over a fence, etc. but instead I hit solid air and I can not move forward.
If the game does not want me to go somewhere, block it with a solid object like a wall, barred door or mountain.
In the testing this weekend I saw some tents with openings larger than a person. I tried to walk into one and just hit solid air. The opening was not real. Took me right out of the game. It breaks immersion. Don't do this please!!!!
Thank you!
I hate trying to jump off a cliff, climb through a window, go over a large rock, walk through a light plant, hop over a fence, etc. but instead I hit solid air and I can not move forward.
If the game does not want me to go somewhere, block it with a solid object like a wall, barred door or mountain.
In the testing this weekend I saw some tents with openings larger than a person. I tried to walk into one and just hit solid air. The opening was not real. Took me right out of the game. It breaks immersion. Don't do this please!!!!
Thank you!
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But yeah I agree. I like my walls visible and my air gaseous.
Being able to enter every object that's big enough to hold a person though, that's a lot. I have never played a game where I could go in every opening, tent, house, building, etc. There's probably a reason for that, most of the time.
The good news is you will get your wish, the bad news is if you want it right now so help me god you will never see the light of day again, your whole family is done for!
If the flap is open and I can't go in, that's fine.
If the flap is closed, I'll just want to be able to open it.
Scenery is just that scenery. I don't need every single thing to be a nook and cranny to discover.
Otherwise we'll see the game in 2120
COME AT ME BRAH!!!
...Actually I hate them too, one of my biggest MMO pet peeves. Because among other things, an MMO is about figuring out how to overcome obstacles. When you’re trying to figure out how to get somewhere and you can’t because those obstacles are invisible, that’s lazy game design. It just is. Put some visible indicator so that we can figure it out. It discourages players and reduces enthusiasm for the game.
Also, /hugs. You seem to need one.
I have played Skyrim, but Skyrim is smaller and will likely be far less populated than Ashes. It's also an instance when going inside most places, and Ashes is trying to avoid instances where they can.
I am more aligned with @Jahlon, just because a tent is there it doesn't mean it is there for anything besides scenery.
Imo, having access to everything so that it can be looted, otherwise why go in a tent owned by an NPC, seems like a gimmick to me. Then only structures that are developed to be looted will be developed, and that could reduce the over all number of buildings and such.
I understand not liking invisible walls. I do not understand the necessity to be able to walk inside any structure that looks like it can have people.
That's great in Elder Scrolls, but this isn't a single player game based on instanced dungeons/housing.
However, in real life just because a door is opened or unlocked it doesn't mean you can just enter.
Just so you know, if you can't enter an open doorway, you need to lose weight.
I'd be down with consequences, but the chance an NPC at a farmer's house you randomly walk into could stop a player seems low. As for bounties and such for trespassing (if all buildings were open to players), why not.
...but sure. Somehow your character in the game has divine rights, and the right type of attitude, to walk into any door they see. Because if they can't, the devs are lazy. This logic is unbreakable, I did not know I was up against philosophy professors.
To be clear, very very clear, this is about physically moving through a space that looks clear of a physical object. That's it.
This is not about rights, laws, trespassing, etc.
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Uhm, that's my thesis title. Plagiarism is not ok.
So, an open door to a home that you can not enter is bad because of the 'invisible' boundary preventing you from actually entering the home?
But, if the door was closed, you would be fine with never being able to enter that building?
So, what about open windows?
I mean, you could fit through and into the house except an invisible wall prevents you from actually crawling in through the window, would this be okay or lazy?
People that camp like to occasionally have the tent doors open for a variety of reasons, like a window, but that doesn't mean they want other people to just wander in.
Again, nobody here (or elsewhere to my knowledge) has advocated for more invisible boundaries that block open air environments.
Sorry, I was originally under the impression you would be less happy if your character couldn't go in every possible opening. I am not going to lie, if our avatars had 100% access to every building I would be a happy thievish scoundrel, but if that wasn't the case I wouldn't consider it a lazy development.
Now if some open windows could be entered but not others, and there was no way to tell the difference, then yes that would be frustrating. Or if there was no visual indicator that some doors could be entered but not others, that’s also frustrating (and lazy). Some sort of marker, or maybe a door being targetable or highlighting on mouse-over, that would be fine.
The problem with invisible walls is having no way ahead of time to know whether or not you should attempt to pass that way, or having no way to know that attempting a long and painstaking climb up a hill is a waste of time because there’s an invisible wall at the top. That’s the kind of lazy design that puts off players. We’re not talking about the logic of why something should be passable. We’re talking about designers wasting the time of a player because they couldn’t muster the imagination or effort to design a landscape properly.