should Mobs be able to kill you?

As the title suggests should mobs be able to kill us if we were not careful enough? those of us who play vanilla WoW remember how pulling more than 2 mobs at a time can kill you, some people like this and others don't, for me I liked that aspect comparing to today mobes where I can kill mobs higher 10 levels than my character or just collect all of the mobs (on my level or higher) and just AOE all of them with one or two skills.
And since we are on the topic lits add the mobs in dungeons and raid should killing them be a priority rather than just bypass them? for example, should we get an extra reward for killing them like them holding recipes? or not killing them and bypass them will make them attack us when we reach the boss? and so on.
I just wanted to know what all of you think? and at what level of difficulty do you want the mobs to be at?

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Azryil

absolutely, if there is no risk the game gets boring.

Ravudha

Definitely, encounters should entail danger and/or require some thought and skill to overcome. I like it when you need to consider which skills are actually effective against a mob - not just the total dps throughput possible in a rotation.

Damokles

Yes, to strong mobs!
I loved Classic, burning crusade and wotlk wow, because you could not just pull 10 mobs, aoe them down and repeat.
I remember the time, when i leveled my human warrior in elwynn forrest, and had to always watch out, while killing kobolds in the mines. I want these times back tbh...

georgeblack

Yes.
I love it when mobs are dangerous and you have to fight your way through.
I like it when mobs are relentless.

I totally hate walking in a straight line going from A to B and not worrying.

Jahlon

100% yes

Atama

You should be able to handle a few mobs at your level if you are careful. Mobs a bit lower than you can be dealt with in greater numbers and/or with less effort. Mobs much lower than you can probably be ignored.

You should be able to handle one or two if they are a level higher than you. Two levels above you, maybe one at a time but it’s a difficult fight. Higher than that, you need to be in a group or you won’t even have a chance.

This may vary from class to class though, with some classes more capable at soloing than others.

Rem_

YES ~!!!!

StreetCornerPoet

Yes, and in open dungeons and raids the same thing, if you over pull they should wipe your group. You should have to think before just pulling a few mobs and be aware of what adds might be coming.

Nagash

Yes

S3V3NTH

Yes, absolutely!!! The more challenging the better, there is better sense of accomplishment.

Azathoth

Yes! I wouldn't consider it an RPG if death wasn't an option.
Should perma-death be implemented? That would be different, and likely end with a mass exodus from the game.

Ibarumarky

There should be always a challenge. When you get stronger, you'll be able handle more and more ways to deal with different situations. I want good old wow vanilla feeling no easy mode

Hexcat

I think it could also be a matter of your class, a rogue or a ranger should be able to handle up to three NPC's for example (obviously putting their health bar at risk) but being a fighter or a tank I expect that my armor and habilities grant me enough resistance to handle 5 NPC loosing between the 60 to 75 % of my health bar , after all our avatars are not going to be simple peasants we are going to be be the spearhead of the retaking of Verra

amuria

@Lumbermark Players could also just be the expendable gullible bunch of people which are send first. That way your elites are prepared for what is to come.

I would like enemies to have a risk to them, but I would also like to be able to kill several if I use my abilities well enough.

Varkun

Remember the days when you were doing dungeons with your friends and you would cc specific mobs target the healer first while the tank grabbed aggro on the hardest hitting mobs sometimes cc would need to be reapplied because the fight with that pack of mobs would take quite a while. Remember the random mob that wandered between groups of mobs that could pull the other group if you aggroed it. Remember how you would wipe if you got this wrong well I would like to see a return to this type of gameplay.

If you are skilled perhaps you can kill a couple of mobs of your level at the same time when you start out with your crappy starter gear. But as you hit max level and you develop your skills gain more power obtain better more powerful gear you may be able to take on perhaps 3 or 4 mobs of your level IF you are skilled enough. What I really do not want to see is single players rounding up a dozen mobs of their level or higher and just grinding them down with aoe.

So yes bring the risk back make mobs tough.

Hexcat

I really doubt that's the situation @amuria
"Players arrive in Verra to explore, rebuild and repopulate their place of origin. Ancient treasures and wondrous adventures await those who dare to disturb the dark remnants of evil that inhabit this land."
That part of the lore tells me that we are prominent adventurers ready for epic action
Like the fleets in Monster Hunter World

Atama

Lumbermark wrote: »

I really doubt that's the situation @amuria
"Players arrive in Verra to explore, rebuild and repopulate their place of origin. Ancient treasures and wondrous adventures await those who dare to disturb the dark remnants of evil that inhabit this land."
That part of the lore tells me that we are prominent adventurers ready for epic action
Like the fleets in Monster Hunter World

Hah, you’re buying the propaganda. Swallowing it all; hook, line, and sinker. Clearly you’re one of the gullible expendables.

nibiru97

Lumbermark wrote: »

I really doubt that's the situation @amuria
"Players arrive in Verra to explore, rebuild and repopulate their place of origin. Ancient treasures and wondrous adventures await those who dare to disturb the dark remnants of evil that inhabit this land."
That part of the lore tells me that we are prominent adventurers ready for epic action
Like the fleets in Monster Hunter World

Then why even have levels or anything? Should we all just enter the world max level because we should be able to kill everything because we are elite?

I think 1 mob alone should be difficult to solo, but doable. Anything closer to EQ than WoW when it comes to difficulty would be most appreciated.

Karthos

Probably

Damokles

Something else i wanted to add: Do you remember THE deadliest add for alliance players in WoW classic?
The "Defias Pillager", they were caster adds in a lvl15-20 zone. Problem was, no one had any kind of interrupt at that level. Other problem was that they respawned extremely fast and always in groups of 1-2 caster together with 2 melee adds xD
I want a challenge, and not a Defias Pillager please xD

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