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Important Feedback for Dev Team.
Strabun
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Hey, this Feedback is intended for Ashes of Creation Creative Director named: Steven Sharif at Intrepid Studios. Based on my knowledge and experience while playing mmorpg's for past 17 years, i would like share and suggest my opinions, perspectives based on analysis off entire Ashes of Creation Hybrid Action Combat System. Entire System from my perspective is outdated, not fluent in it's animations, very slow and clunky. I would suggest that an deep dive into Black Desert Online's Combat System is needed for entire Creative,Content,Animation-VFX teams too make and take advantage off inspiration from other successful mmorpg's like Black Desert Online and many others that did same thing Inspired & Created the best content on others successful projects-games.
PS: “The thing that has been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.” Book of Ecclesiasticus by King Solomon.
PS: “The thing that has been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.” Book of Ecclesiasticus by King Solomon.
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Virtue is the only good.
'Hey, this Feedback is intended for Ashes of Creation Creative Director named: Steven Sharif at Intrepid Studios. Based on my knowledge and experience while playing mmorpg's for past 23 years, i would like share and suggest my opinions, perspectives based on analysis off entire Ashes of Creation Hybrid Action Combat System.' To that Steven guy. Just keep doing what you are doing, have told us you plan to do, and keep on grinding out the progress. Game is better and better every iteration you release.
If I could give more than one like I would.
I don't "do" likes on forums, but I gave him one for you, so you can claim you gave him two now.
BDO came along and reminded me how bad balance and rigid classes can be. If you don't do exactly this, then you are useless.
It looks absolutely stunning, but the combat is one of the worst I ever had experienced.
I can be a life devouring nightmare. - Grisu#1819
This community is great. Stop being like that.
Virtue is the only good.
Also, something like combat is the entire base of the game. If it isn't improved upon DURING the alpha and beta stages then it will just become even more difficult to change later. So, reiterating specific things like this is good for the game.
@Tsukasa I'd say the reaction the regulars on here is perfectly reasonable when you have some newcomer appearing out of nowhere with "feedback" when they clearly haven't done any research at all.
@Ryufu the thing about providing feedback at this early stage is that we don't know what the developers are still working on and what is considered finished. Combat animations are a perfect example. I severely doubt that the animations we've seen so far are the finished product. So us saying that the animations are rubbish holds very little value since these are likely going to change and improve anyway later down the line.
The thing with your entry in the forums was that you went in swinging.
You tried to force everyones opinion about topics and always talked about how they should implement obscure game mechanics from other unsuccesfull games aka soul-bonding/marriage mechanics.
Most of these mechanics and the examples you provided would be utterly busted in Ashes.
Yes, i too like the BDO combat. But Ashes is hope-/thankfully not the utter clusterfuck that is BDO.
IF i had to whish for a good action combat, then i would go for Warframe.
The Tamer in BDO has a 11sec stunlock....
The Striker has a 5-6sec stunlock....
They already said that they dont like hard cc like stuns in tab targetting and want to keep them to a minimum.
I haven't played a ton of BDO but from what I've seen and experienced the combat system is mostly fluff. Visually stunning, for sure, but not much substance behind it.
This is not something that is mutually exclusive with tab target combat - you can have both and indeed most tab target MMO's do.
If what you are arguing for is the ability to react to PvP, then talk about that, not about BDO or action combat - as these things are not inherently connected.
Edit to add; you come across as someone that has heard about parts of tab target combat systems, but never really played one - and absolutely never played one in depth. You have taken your partial understanding of what such games involve, and assumed that is all there is to them. To make things worse than that, you refuse to listen when people with more first hand experience of them point out to you where you are wrong, meaning your understanding of them will never grow.
This is why you are so often wrong when talking about tab target games.
You better read he's post and mine multiple times and maybe after read it couple of time maybe than you would understand that other mmo's like Infinite Ascension after they recived a lot of feedback from community they had listen to their concerns regarding tab-target shity sistem and switched to free action combat sistem and revamped entire animations and even changed it's name from Ascend infinite Realm to Elyon. So stop with toxic behavior and let people share their opinions based on what they like, see, test, research, experience. An toxic behavior makes the game as toxic as players are. Indeed maybe developers would reconsider their options but if a lot of effort, money, time has been spent on an sistem named: Hybrid Action Combat System when if fact is clearly tab targeting outdated sistem back from wow and lineage 2 era. Maybe developers will change everything their entire work but i do not belive this would happen as this project was a kick starter which is much difficult to gather money than other studios that are in branch for many years and got enough money to spent on an revamp on it's entire game core. Now you got the point ? When it would be released it will be indeed more polished in animations but it would be very difficult to remake entire game core combat sistem. So dosen't matter how much to tweak it because it's base is same outdated that people are sick of it. Maybe new players that just started playing mmo's are welcome it.