Replace Item decay with RNG Craft

No. Items decay. Items break. If items also break in crafting from RNG there won't be enough items to cater to the ever increasing demand. Resources will be precious, and, a master craftsmen would very rarely destroy what they are creating. Simply put, a master craftsmen should in no way be faced with RNG.

I agree with RNG in over-enchanting. I think Magic can potentially go wrong. I don't agree with RNG in crafting.

Lincoln Hawk

RNG in gear progession is a big yikes tbh.

You are already dealing with the rng of drops in forms of materials and actual gear, think thats enough.

Amel

I dont what youre proposing simply because if they add that kind of rng where it can proc with better stats, in the end game when youre trying to craft your gear, everytime you dont get the extra stats proc, you will consider it a failure and youre going to hate it.

Ideally item decay would be removed in favour of RNG Craft. So have another look with no item decay in mind.

RNG is a stain. RNG is a silly mechanism. We have RNG in over-enchanting and RNG in combat (Last I heard). I think its enough RNG. Older games didn't have RNG. RNG is a false mechanism to keep markets lively. Ashes has other methods to keep markets lively.

Alizee

Agreed, you can still have RNG in crafting even if your item breaks, it's not like your item's stat lines break, also min-maxing is healthy for endgame damage scaling, or else it becomes very dull after you complete your set, it's good to know you can always improve that much more (seeing what you rolled/etc is part of what makes mmo's fun).

Neurath wrote: »

RNG is a stain. RNG is a silly mechanism. We have RNG in over-enchanting and RNG in combat (Last I heard). I think its enough RNG. Older games didn't have RNG. RNG is a false mechanism to keep markets lively. Ashes has other methods to keep markets lively.

RNG is live, RNG is love! Without RNG is like food without flavour! Everything must be RNG, MORE RNG

Alizee wrote: »

Agreed, you can still have RNG in crafting even if your item breaks, it's not like your item's stat lines break, also min-maxing is healthy for endgame damage scaling, or else it becomes very dull after you complete your set, it's good to know you can always improve that much more (seeing what you rolled/etc is part of what makes mmo's fun).

"complete your set" .. ?

Alizee

hazardnumberseven wrote: »

Alizee wrote: »

Agreed, you can still have RNG in crafting even if your item breaks, it's not like your item's stat lines break, also min-maxing is healthy for endgame damage scaling, or else it becomes very dull after you complete your set, it's good to know you can always improve that much more (seeing what you rolled/etc is part of what makes mmo's fun).

"complete your set" .. ?

If it's not RNG, it will most likely be crafting sets, in other words having set stat lines on a set piece of gear that is most likely part of a complete set of armor (outside of weapons)

Alizee wrote: »

hazardnumberseven wrote: »

Alizee wrote: »

Agreed, you can still have RNG in crafting even if your item breaks, it's not like your item's stat lines break, also min-maxing is healthy for endgame damage scaling, or else it becomes very dull after you complete your set, it's good to know you can always improve that much more (seeing what you rolled/etc is part of what makes mmo's fun).

"complete your set" .. ?

If it's not RNG, it will most likely be crafting sets, in other words a set stat lines on a set piece of gear that is most likely part of a complete set of armor (outside of weapons)

Ah, okay. Thanks.

Chuba

I do believe that if RNG was included in the crafting system, it would make it a tad bit more fun and rewarding when you do manage to craft the item, however, it could only work if the item decay system is completely removed from the game. I'd also be fine with it as I do not lose all of my materials used for crafting. I like this idea.

Chuba wrote: »

I do believe that if RNG was included in the crafting system, it would make it a tad bit more fun and rewarding when you do manage to craft the item, however, it could only work if the item decay system is completely removed from the game. I'd also be fine with it as I do not lose all of my materials used for crafting. I like this idea.

You get it! Yes item decay does not appeal to me as interesting mechanism at all. So you need to find gear, then break it and then fix your existing gear? Silly, silly.... Much better is to try and craft said gear without 100% chance so that it feels as achievement to get it! And once you get it, it's yours! No delays in raids to wait for everyone to fix their gear, no early quitting the siege because "ah look we are losing and i don't want to have my gear decay even more in this losing battle so i will just quit." What sense of achievement is there in maintaining your gear? Now crafting something you've been grinding for, for a week and succeeding in it, now that's an achievement!

RNG would make some Legendary Crafted items more Legendary than other Legendries. It is a feat to build a Legendary item in the first place. Ya'll are nuts if you want to increase the difficulty of creating Legendries with RNG. Sometimes you don't know when you've got it good. You won't be creating Legendries very often - if at all, yet you want RNG to limit it even further. Sounds like madness to me.

Neurath wrote: »

RNG would make some Legendary Crafted items more Legendary than other Legendries. It is a feat to build a Legendary item in the first place. Ya'll are nuts if you want to increase the difficulty of creating Legendries with RNG. Sometimes you don't know when you've got it good. You won't be creating Legendries very often - if at all, yet you want RNG to limit it even further. Sounds like madness to me.

Okay you got your legendary, it has decayed to only 10 durability and you can't use it because now you need another legendary to break it, to get materials to fix your first legendary. Having a gear that you can not use is the real madness! If you achieved something then it's yours to show everyone, not to hide in closet and wear once on a special occasion...

Are you aware that in life, the finest crafted items were for ceremonial purposes? I mean most people used Spears and not Swords in actual combat, would you love Swords to be removed too? We don't know how difficult it is to acquire Legendary Materials, RNG would make it a nightmare, you'd be farming so much extra to find the *right* legendary to repair your legendary, because, some fool decided RNG would be a good addition to the crafting system and now your options are so narrow you'll probably not use your Legendary at all.

RNG sucks ogre balls.

hazardnumberseven wrote: »

RNG sucks ogre balls.

Well so does the item decay and this guy "Neurath" with his off topic nonsense, but here we are...

If you love RNG, go and play BDO. Ashes is designed from old MMOs and the older MMOs were much better for crafters. It is enough for a crafter to obtain a recipe (You won't always have access to all recipes) and to find a recipe first (Own the blueprint for the recipe and get royalties), which makes RNG completely pointless. There are no benefits of RNG, except to get slapped in the face after you've done all of the *hard* work, and RNG effectively says *Computer says no*.

Yes ofcourse you will need to find recipes first, that's self explanatory, they just shouldn't be 100% success rate is all. They should also offer a chance for a mastercraft or call it whatever you want that will increase or perhaps add some bonus to the gear and that would be good. Benefits are the resource sink and extra grind, grind is the core of all mmorpgs after all. I'll update the main post to point out that this is effectively suggestion to replace item decay with RNG craft, as indeed having both in place would be too much.