In Game Supported Macro System

Will we have a In Game Supported Macro System? The only other MMO I've played is Rift and that macro system was a life saver and big draw to the game for me. I'm not so good at my age to be pressing 8+ buttons all the time.

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Jexz

I forgot rift had that I actually liked it. Probably because Rift had a lot of skills and was designed with that macro system in mind. Right now AoC has 12 skills on the bar. reading this post there are potentially 30 skills we get to choose from. Rifts system would allow you to use all 30 and was balanced around and had cool downs with the macro system in mind. My guess is AoC is balancing around the idea of 12 skills on your bar. not the ability to actually use all 30. So that macro system is not really needed.

Not knowing all the skills but using the recent tank skill teaser Bulwark and Myrmidion's Fury would be Two skills that could actually make use of rifts macro system. Assuming one had a cool down > 1. But if Bulwark interrupts casts like it says it does on the wiki. You still wouldn't want to do this if Bulwark had a cool down < 1 and was spamable. Lets say it interrupts so it wouldn't have a cool down < 1 myrmidion's fury Could have a spamable attack time because it probably does low damage and spamming it would not be ideal.

You would want bulwark at the top so when needed it you would interrupt. But say you are just tanking pve You hit it once for the block buff hit it a 2nd time for the mitigation buff.

Resounding smash and lacerate again situational resounding smash would have to do more damage than lacerate and have a cool down.
All the other skills shown in that video are too situational to put in a macro. If you did so you would be worse off.

The systems has its pros. With 30 skills and we are only able to choose 12 there will be a meta and some of those skills had thought put into them but will never be used. In the case above I freed up 2 inputs so we can now use 14 of the 30 skills.

It doesn't really take away any skill factor you have to put thought into your macros. Not all skills work in a macro, situational utility skills the ones that make a player shine don't work in a macro . I'm neither for nor against it. But it does make each class able to utilize a bigger kit.

Jubilum

As a gentleman well beyond my reaction time, hand eye coordination, and vision prime. I would use a simple macro system to aid with my deficiencies. But the negatives of having any macros in game far outweigh any desire their may be to assist me with my unique deficiencies.

SendNodes

You can just get a keyboard that have Marco function that way you don’t have to worry about in game macro

Beekeeper

SendNodes wrote: »

You can just get a keyboard that have Marco function that way you don’t have to worry about in game macro

Unless using that gets you in trouble for emulated keystrokes.

Vhaeyne wrote: »

It is reprehensible, and I am very hopeful that I wont have to deal with it in AoC.

It's not that serious, no need to get that hostile about something so innocuous. It's a little spammy at its absolute worst.

3am

Beekeeper wrote: »

SendNodes wrote: »

You can just get a keyboard that have Marco function that way you don’t have to worry about in game macro

Unless using that gets you in trouble for emulated keystrokes.

Vhaeyne wrote: »

It is reprehensible, and I am very hopeful that I wont have to deal with it in AoC.

It's not that serious, no need to get that hostile about something so innocuous. It's a little spammy at its absolute worst.

I mean Logitech gkeys don't just emulate keystrokes, to the computer they are each individual key strokes. Especially with what he want which would be one key one action. Not one key multiple actions.

SendNodes

Unless using that gets you in trouble for emulated keystrokes

nope it won’t.. works in every game

Vhaeyne

Beekeeper wrote: »

It's not that serious, no need to get that hostile about something so innocuous. It's a little spammy at its absolute worst.

I can only imagine how hostile you would have perceived my comment if I had used caps.

It's not that serious, but I do want to get my point across that having other players clog up the text logs is awful. It even worst in the case of games like FFXI and FFXIV where everyone wants to link in-game sounds to their moves.

Xolzec

SendNodes wrote: »

nope it won’t.. works in every game

Sure it might work but if it's against the ToS you should be very careful.

Undead Canuck

What about when Intrepid starts looking at the timing of your 'keystrokes'. If the Logitech sends each key every 10 milliseconds, that is obviously not a human.

Songcaller

there is no animation cancelling, most skills seem to animation lock. I doubt anyone will be doing keystrokes every 10 milliseconds, even with macros.

Noaani

SendNodes wrote: »

Unless using that gets you in trouble for emulated keystrokes

nope it won’t.. works in every game

There are some games it doesn't work on.

Since all of these keyboards require specific software, developers can scan to see if you have it installed (depending on how invasive their anti-cheat software is).

Especially if you are alpha testing a lot of games, these kinds of scans are fairly common.

Yuyukoyay

As long as my 17 button mouse works in game I'm happy. There isn't really a middle ground for macros. They either borderline required to play at all or they are completely useless except for a couple fun things you can do with them.

I'm for not clogging the chat with stupid crap and not making 1 button rotations.

CaptnChuck

Wandering Mist wrote: »

BlackBrony wrote: »

Wandering Mist wrote: »

The only time I feel the need to use macros in mmorpgs are when you have so many abilities that you need macros to combine them together into a reasonable number of keybinds. Since Ashes will only allow you to use 12 abilities at a time, this shouldn't be necessary.

Are they 12? I've read less than 30 from Wiki

30 abilities in total, but you can only use 12 at a time.

Pretty sure this is not true. I heard that you can invest 1 point into 30 skills or invest 30 points into 10 skills.

Also they did say that there will be additional hotbars as well.

mrwaffles

iSinner

I wonder if they will have commands like
/target
and
/assist
similar to lineage2. Not sure how the assist command was called, but it was there.

This is very crucial for mass pvp.

Yuyukoyay

The Wiki is not illustrative of what is actually going to be in the game yet. A lot of stuff that has been said can still change.

There is going to be tab targeting so you can just click a nearby target and cycle to the one you want. Assuming the tab targeting isn't **** in how it chooses targets.

WoW used to have tab targeting that always chose the target I wanted. Now it's garbage for instance.

Yuyukoyay

The Wiki is not illustrative of what is actually going to be in the game yet. A lot of stuff that has been said can still change.

There is going to be tab targeting so you can just click a nearby and cycle to the one you want. Depending how bad the tab cycling is. WoW used to have a good one, but now it has one of the worst ones in an MMO.

Songcaller

Yuyukoyay wrote: »

There is going to be tab targeting so you can just click a nearby and cycle to the one you want. Depending how bad the tab cycling is. WoW used to have a good one, but now it has one of the worst ones in an MMO.

Why click on a nearby target when you can click the actual target? Strange times we live in.

Yuyukoyay

Well it's manual vs automatic. I'm not sure how they will define automatically targeting a unit, but it counts as automation in every other game. So acquiring targets through command might not be allowed.

Songcaller

Yeah, I would imagine acquiring targets through command could be considered a script, or, be used as the basis for a script. It would be a fine line to tread and should not be enabled. /Sit etc can be used in console but I doubt targeting will be a console command. Most people won't have time to type console commands in a hectic fight.

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