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Elgondamo
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With how in depth this game is turning out to be, are developers thinking about adding a way of earning some sort of crypto token for playing the game? I read a past post that someone put out a while back about blockchain in AOC, but I;m not sure if he and I meant the same thing. There are a lot of advancements going on with etherium that could be useful, from personal experience I know I will be spending a very long time infront of the screen playing my favorite MMO. If I could get paid for doing so, well, I might make it my job to play.
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Crypto has no place in MMORPGs, dunno why people keep on connecting these two.
Playing a game such as AoC is for fun and escapism; you pay to play (subscription) to support the continued support and development of this wonderful game.
If you really want to 'get paid' while playing AoC, become a streamer/YouTube(r) and offer great content so that you can get sponsorships, subs, etc..or you could get a traditional 'job' to get paid.
You would want the Ability to offer the processing power of your PC to mine crypocurrency while playing the game.
Then you'd split the earnings with the Developer.
Is that right?
@Elgondamo
If you want to earn crypto while playing Ashes, you can mine for it yourself on the side - no one is stopping you.
Just because you see the potential to exploit a game for unintended results, doesn’t mean the developers should capitulate to you. I am whole heartedly against it.
That's what I like to read, more crypto for daddy
maybe.
But Steven allready said the game will not have any type of Pay to win.
Allowing people to Farm their sub or money ingame in any type or form is pay to win.
So to your question:
Not going to happen.
I agree regardless of what op is asking for.
- make ashes have a crypto miner running in the background
Literally never even been mentioned, and a very counterintuitive idea, so I think not ever.
- earn an in-game currency to pay for subs.
Again based on things that have been said about $$, no. Maybe a year or more post release, but I wouldn't even expext it thay soon.
If the crpyto is just something that you mine while the client is running than all you have done is made a random alt coin with a weird mining client.There are a billion alt-coins, and most of them seem really risky to invest in. I am very skeptical that having the game be a miner would make the "AoCoin" a good alt-coin.
If the crypto has any effect on the game world... you have have made the game pay to win.
@Noaani is right, you can just mine crypto on the side while you play.
If I had more time, I would write a shorter post.
I'm sure they have thought about how to make embers hard to farm by bots. The sub fee can stay in place, and it can be seen as the fee to play and farm ember. Dont know about everyone else, but I can't stream because I'm not a handsome, charismatic fellow. But I still invest close to 40 + hours a week to my favorite MMO if I could at least get crypto out of those hours spent, it would help off-set the oportunity cost of not doing something more productive with my life.
p.s. all the negative feed back is way short sighted.. and who mentioned a miner running in the back ground or paying the sub fee with the crypto? dont add your bad ideas to my awesome one!
So now you seem to be suggesting that quests and such should result in this new crypto curency of yours. That leaves the question - where does this new currency get it's value from? Like, if I wanted to trade it for bitcoin, why would someone with bitcoin want to trade with me?
Also, I don't think Intrepid want people to look at Ashes as a job.
Crypto farming has no business in a video game. Talk about a crazy path towards pay to win, so many ways that Crypto would totally screw things up.
Why should intrepid pay people to play the game? you can't earn embers by doing quests, and who would want to trade bitcoin for video game cosmetics? and its your choice to ply the game, so it wont be your job unless you work for intrepid. also, if you can exchange embers for real currency, then it is PTW.
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you can't earn ember in game. Its the cash shop currency
If they havent implemented a way to earn it through in-game interactions then they should. If AoC is the first MMORPG that figures out how to resolve not only the player agency issues that plague current MMO's. But also have a way to compensate their subscribers for the time they invest playing the game and therefore making it more popular and more profitable. Ecosystems of the future are circular, implementing something in anyway similar to what I'm suggesting can only be good for the game.
Your insistence on shoving a cryptocurrency in some way shape or form into this videogame is unprecedented in its ridiculousness.
You seem to be new to MMO's, and just recently learned about crypto. That is all I am able to gather from what you are saying.
First of all, you can't just buy items from the cosmetic shop when the game goes live. You will need to purchase Embers, which you can then use to purchase items in the shop with.
As to why they do it this way rather than just allowing people to buy directly from the shop - there are three reasons.
The first is that they hope people will buy a larger amount of currency than they will spend. This is not really a reason, but a lot of people think it is.
The second is that it allows Intrepid to bundle game time packages with in game currency - much as they already do.
Third is that it allows people using foreign currency to purchase a large amount of Embers if they want to, perhaps taking advantage of a favorable exchange rate, but more importantly only needing to pay a single exchange fee.
Now, as to your last paragraph - players don't "invest" time in to an MMO. If that is how you look at playing games, you should look for another hobby (or a better job).
If people have to do an active task to earn Embers - even if it is in game - and those Embers can be sold for money without breaking any kind of ToS, then Intrepid would need to register as an employer in every country they allow the game to be played in, and would likely need to hire accounts in all of them as well.
This is a hard, sold and complete no. Not for any reasons to do with what people want, but for reason to do with how the world functions.
Adding crypto tokens to a game does not mean that your game becomes p2w..
For example.. this company is still in control in weither or not you add stuff to your cashshop that's not p2w..
Now the question will be.... will this company allow tokenizing these items, that are in cashshop.. and run a blockchain in background to allow trading between these assets..
Its nothing more nothing less.
The embers that ashes uses could be tokenized. which in the background will be running on a blockchain which provides 100% sercurity
player to player trading is another subject to discuss.. and i dont think steven will be happy in doing so.. since it will bork the sales of the cashshop
tbh... i dont see any benefits in tokenizing embers.. because it im pretty sure that player 2 player trade wont be allowed for cosmetics.
Remember, Intrepid consider the ability to trade a cosmetic item to another player to be a form of pay to win. If I am able to buy a thing with money, and then trade that thing in game with another player, that's pay to win.
As such, if any crypto associated with the game is able to be both traded and used in game in any way (even if just cosmetic) it is pay to win.
It may not be pay to win by your definition, but your definition is not the one that matters here.
So, any crypto tied to the game would need to either not be able to be traded, or not be able to be used in game. One of those things MUST happen in order for it to not be pay to win.
if cosmetics that you buy from cashshop will be trade able amougst other players.. then yes shit is p2w
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