Player/mob Collision

I apologize if this questions has already been asked/answered. I tried searching a bit, but didn't find any forum post that jumped out at me...

Is there going to be some sort of character/NPC/player/mob collision in the game?

I understand the pros/cons for each point. And I've seen both variants done in different games. I'm just curious about AoC specifically. Will we be 'ghosting' through mobs & players as we move about. Or will making contact with other players/mobs cause a movement halting/slowing sort of impact?

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Bricktop

There is collision indeed.

Tacualeon

In Unreal Engine 4, you get basic collision by clicking boxes.

So most likely yes.

The collision hitboxes can go from simple invisible cubes around the player, to very fit and complex shapes that matches the 3d model exactly.
We are probably going to get something in the middle for better performance.

This is collision for your 3d character.

Collision for melee weapons is a bit more difficult.
Not too sure about this, but something like adjusting a hitbox shape to the 3d weapon carried by your character and making it track movement during animation.
Complex shapes to track, with complex swings and arcs from weapons to track can be hard.
But at least, personal collision is made accesible by UE4.

Varkun

Collision has been confirmed, there is a little info on the wiki. It will require some testing though to prevent griefing with blocking access to doors and NPC's.

Link https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Collision

bloodprophet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkwaYLOuw2s

At about 35:00 you can see them blocking the door with their bodies and pvp ensues.

Lore Dynamic

Thanks everyone for the responses! I appreciate it.
Glad that there WILL be collision incorporated.

daveywavey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bodhetqm2M

daveywavey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIK-y7SA9eo

Damokles

I think that they once said that you can slowly "push" other people out of the way.

PlagueMonk

Damokles wrote: »

I think that they once said that you can slowly "push" other people out of the way.

You can do that or use soft collision detection which will allow you to push past friendlies after a few sec.

The 'good' news is, since everyone is attackable, you can simply kill them if they refuse to move. Wonder if there will be justifiable homicide for griefers who are deliberately being asshats and do things like block doorways? That way you can kill them without gaining corruption.

daveywavey

PlagueMonk wrote: »

Wonder if there will be justifiable homicide for griefers who are deliberately being asshats and do things like block doorways? That way you can kill them without gaining corruption.

They had to nerf the 'Cover Shield' in Star Trek Online, cos people used to stick it in a doorway, and the majority of players didn't know how to jump over it.

Atama

Damokles wrote: »

I think that they once said that you can slowly "push" other people out of the way.

You better not ever go AFK next to a pit of lava then...

maouw

Atama wrote: »

Damokles wrote: »

I think that they once said that you can slowly "push" other people out of the way.

You better not ever go AFK next to a pit of lava then...

ohhh boi

bloodprophet

Atama wrote: »

Damokles wrote: »

I think that they once said that you can slowly "push" other people out of the way.

You better not ever go AFK next to a pit of lava then...

No. Would be better if you did. Makes for good YT videos.

Sathrago

bloodprophet wrote: »

Atama wrote: »

Damokles wrote: »

I think that they once said that you can slowly "push" other people out of the way.

You better not ever go AFK next to a pit of lava then...

No. Would be better if you did. Makes for good YT videos.

I expect to see afk people being pushed into combatant zones to kill them without gaining corruption.

Lore Dynamic

Sathrago wrote: »

I expect to see afk people being pushed into combatant zones to kill them without gaining corruption.

Ohh! Fun. It would be interesting to see what sneaky-clever ways players come up with to murder without alerting the "authorities"

bloodprophet

Sounds like a good time to me.

Like going AFK in rift out in the open world. Just to come back in the middle of a zone event and find yourself standing in the graveyard.

Atama

bloodprophet wrote: »

Sounds like a good time to me.

Like going AFK in rift out in the open world. Just to come back in the middle of a zone event and find yourself standing in the graveyard.

I cannot say that has never happened to me before. PvP and open world events were the best things about Rift if I remember right.

PlagueMonk

Atama wrote: »

Damokles wrote: »

I think that they once said that you can slowly "push" other people out of the way.

You better not ever go AFK next to a pit of lava then...

I believe we may have stumbled upon a possible issue. Do we really want the ability to push others into hot zones or say off cliffs? If this is the way they go maybe you can only move them a limited distance before they become immobile?

This is why I like what WAR did and allow push through. You didn't actually move the friendly but could get past them with a few secs of pushing.

Nagash

this thread just reminds me of baldur's gate 3 where you can toss people off cliffs

daveywavey

Nagash wrote: »

this thread just reminds me of baldur's gate 3 where you can toss people off cliffs

Or 'Worms' with the "Prod" off the cliff!

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