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Music is important.

ErdunErdun Member
edited December 2020 in General Discussion
Any good game is better if has a very good music. I would like to know more about what soundtracks are you going to use for the city's or dungeons (for example).

Imagine enter in a dungeon and the first thing you feel is a feeling of creepiness fear for the music that sounds and makes it clear to you that you are in a dangerous place.

An example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZwolhdsukk&pbjreload=101

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56GU2tmosc0
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  • Dead community? Bumps.
  • bloodprophetbloodprophet Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Bear is doing the music. Not much is known beyond that.
    Also is early in the morning here on a Sunday.

    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Music
    Most people never listen. They are just waiting on you to quit making noise so they can.
  • SathragoSathrago Member, Alpha Two
    Bear is doing the music. Not much is known beyond that.
    Also is early in the morning here on a Sunday.

    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Music

    Thanks for that. Started him up on pandora and I really like what I am hearing.
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  • AtamaAtama Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Bear has won an Emmy and was nominated for another for television soundtracks, so expectations should be high. He also did the music for the game God of War and won a BAFTA for that.
     
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  • VhaeyneVhaeyne Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Bear is great. BSG!
    I plan on listening to what he puts in AOC, but music is in no way important to me in MMOs.
    The key reason is that when you are spending hundreds to thousands of hour on the same game. The entire OST will quickly become over played.

    For an above average OST like FFXIV, I will generally listen to the BGM once or twice per boss, and while I am leveling in a new zone for a while. From there I only toggle the BGM on when I have not heard it in a while.

    For a shit tier OST like WOW, I try to check out the BGM when I go into a new dungeon or area, but that games music is what I would call "Ambient Tier", and personally I want zero part in it. WOW is musically like La Croix to me.

    All other times, I keel the games sound effects mixed to a reasonable level, and 100% mute voice acting. With my own bangers playing in background.
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    This is my personal feedback, shared to help the game thrive in its niche.
  • MichaelMichael Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Sholer wrote: »
    Dead community? Bumps.

    Not dead at all. Just the majority of the active user base is usually chatting in discord most of the time.

    But yes, music is very important. There are MMO's I played over a decade ago and will still recognize their music being used in videos, and will even listen to them every once in a while. Sound tracks alone can bring me back to a game, because the sound tracks will remind me of the fun I had in the games while those songs just happen to be playing.
  • BlackBronyBlackBrony Member, Alpha Two
    Vhaeyne wrote: »
    Bear is great. BSG!
    I plan on listening to what he puts in AOC, but music is in no way important to me in MMOs.
    The key reason is that when you are spending hundreds to thousands of hour on the same game. The entire OST will quickly become over played.

    For an above average OST like FFXIV, I will generally listen to the BGM once or twice per boss, and while I am leveling in a new zone for a while. From there I only toggle the BGM on when I have not heard it in a while.

    For a shit tier OST like WOW, I try to check out the BGM when I go into a new dungeon or area, but that games music is what I would call "Ambient Tier", and personally I want zero part in it. WOW is musically like La Croix to me.

    All other times, I keel the games sound effects mixed to a reasonable level, and 100% mute voice acting. With my own bangers playing in background.

    I do agree, music gets boring. But it needs to be special.
    IMO Fallout 2 did it great. It's just "background noise". If you have no idea, listen some of this:

    https://youtu.be/vGyB093QOIo?t=174

    I don't get tired of hearing that, despite having played Fallout a lot of time. It's a mood piece, making you feel like you should in that area of the map according to the lore.

    I'd rathe have that than complicated soundtracks that after hearing 20 times you just can't do it anymore.
  • VhaeyneVhaeyne Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    BlackBrony wrote: »
    I do agree, music gets boring. But it needs to be special.
    IMO Fallout 2 did it great. It's just "background noise". If you have no idea, listen some of this:

    https://youtu.be/vGyB093QOIo?t=174

    I don't get tired of hearing that, despite having played Fallout a lot of time. It's a mood piece, making you feel like you should in that area of the map according to the lore.

    I'd rathe have that than complicated soundtracks that after hearing 20 times you just can't do it anymore.

    Fallout has the "Ambient Tier" I was talking about. Which is great for a game that is 5-40 hours long. If game is going to take less than 40 hours of my time, I will surely listen to the music. I know you can play fallout for much longer than 40 hours, but I don't think anyone on this board is planning on playing less that 40 hours of AOC.

    I will say this, I have put on both the Fallout and Morrowind OSTs for other games, because I thought they fit the mood better than the games own music. I was raiding Castle Nathria in WOW this weekend with the SOTN OST, and it really elevated the experience.

    In the context of other MMOs:

    This music is fine but, to me it all blends together. I could hear all of it or none of it and not feel much of a difference:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA83X9AeEH4&t=19081s&ab_channel=WarcraftMusicandGaming

    This however is more of a ride. It's not all amazing, but it keeps me interested enough to keep it on longer:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTlbyBg3PeI&list=PLKzg0DeoAjD_jS457C_6Af4XyHayGN5we&ab_channel=dudewhereismyspoon

    Lastly, If my dude Bear McCreary makes AOC's music anything like this. It might keep my attention longer than 40 hours:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJiqwdWOhz8&ab_channel=JediNg135

    I guess the key take away is that if the games music is not great or I have just heard enough of it. I will switch to something I do like really quickly.
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  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member, Alpha Two
    I never got bored of the Guild Wars music. I could still listen to it now, even when I'm not playing it any more. Bear McCreary might be good, but Jeremy Soule is Number 1!
    This link may help you: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/


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  • AtamaAtama Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Michael wrote: »
    Sholer wrote: »
    Dead community? Bumps.

    Not dead at all.
    Well, I mean there's @Nagash so it's kind of true.
     
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  • NagashNagash Member, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Atama wrote: »
    Michael wrote: »
    Sholer wrote: »
    Dead community? Bumps.

    Not dead at all.
    Well, I mean there's @Nagash so it's kind of true.

    its funny because a dead guy is the most alive on the forums
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  • TrobTrob Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited May 2021
    On the most recent boss video shown Asmongold made a very good point about the music. Here is a clip. @ 18:11

    https://youtu.be/f87Q0SqOKto?t=1091
    Trob
  • NagashNagash Member, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Trob wrote: »
    On the most recent boss video shown Asmongold made a very good point about the music. Here is a clip. @ 18:11

    https://youtu.be/f87Q0SqOKto?t=1091

    Kind of a mute point because that is placeholder music
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  • AsgerrAsgerr Member, Alpha Two
    Nagash wrote: »
    Trob wrote: »
    On the most recent boss video shown Asmongold made a very good point about the music. Here is a clip. @ 18:11

    https://youtu.be/f87Q0SqOKto?t=1091

    Kind of a mute point because that is placeholder music

    Moot*

    And yeah while the music is placeholder, the sentiment behind is correct.

    I hope the game has great music. Something like FFXIV has a lot of good and memorable ones.
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  • maouwmaouw Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Asgerr wrote: »
    Nagash wrote: »
    Trob wrote: »
    On the most recent boss video shown Asmongold made a very good point about the music. Here is a clip. @ 18:11

    https://youtu.be/f87Q0SqOKto?t=1091

    Kind of a mute point because that is placeholder music

    Moot*

    And yeah while the music is placeholder, the sentiment behind is correct.

    I hope the game has great music. Something like FFXIV has a lot of good and memorable ones.

    Boss phase change music!! YESSSS PLEASE
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  • NagashNagash Member, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Asgerr wrote: »
    Nagash wrote: »
    Trob wrote: »
    On the most recent boss video shown Asmongold made a very good point about the music. Here is a clip. @ 18:11

    https://youtu.be/f87Q0SqOKto?t=1091

    Kind of a mute point because that is placeholder music

    Moot*

    And yeah while the music is placeholder, the sentiment behind is correct.

    I hope the game has great music. Something like FFXIV has a lot of good and memorable ones.

    curse you auto correct
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    The dead do not squabble as this land’s rulers do. The dead have no desires, petty jealousies or ambitions. A world of the dead is a world at peace
  • NeliryaNelirya Member, Founder, Kickstarter, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I think that music is extremely important in a game, especially in an MMORPG. Thinking back to MMORPG's I have played in the past, many of the memories I have of different places & experiences are rather vivid specifically because the music in those places/scenarios was brilliant.

    One such example from my experience is the Town of Dion in Lineage 2. I remember spending a lot of time there with guildies chatting and messing around. What made those times stick in my memory was the great town music which just made for an amazing atmosphere.

    I really do hope that AoC will have brilliant music which fits the different environments and scenarios that can happen in the world.
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  • Kivek RhuKhanKivek RhuKhan Member, Founder, Kickstarter, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I just hope I can turn the music off completely.

    Cuz I listen to this 24/7:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EyM2jcBTW0
  • AsgerrAsgerr Member, Alpha Two
    edited May 2021
    Here's Asmon's thoughts on this topic. You know he gets it when he praises FFXIV for it.


    https://youtu.be/f87Q0SqOKto?t=983s
    and then at this point:
    https://youtu.be/f87Q0SqOKto?t=1098s
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  • VhaeyneVhaeyne Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Asgerr wrote: »
    Here's Asmon's thoughts on this topic. You know he gets it when he praises FFXIV for it.

    https://youtu.be/f87Q0SqOKto?t=994

    Asmon also called this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBIRYjP1NNM

    "Cellar Dweller Music", Which is fair...
    Still It would be cool to watch him die in Savage.
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  • RamirezRamirez Member
    edited May 2021
    Best soundtrack in a game by far for me, in a game and sondtrack can carry a game or a serie

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI2vjPUztJc&t=2299s


    Great War track from yasuke


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHcqfvU0sdw
  • tautautautau Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    @Nelirya Yes, I also loved Dion for the music, the design, its location, and lots of other reasons. Including meeting my best friend in the game there. She overheard me berating a player begging for Adena.
  • Skyri02Skyri02 Member
    edited May 2021
    I agree that music is important. When you do exploring, dungeons, bosses etc.
    I think Intrepid Studios knows well what music they want to use for the different content.

    In this video from Ashes Of Creation ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHTWhIF5cqI ) at (1:57) there is a boss fight and the music that is playing while you fighting the monster is AWASOME!
    I think music like that fits well into boss fights, and when you add "braking/destroying" sounds (2:03 in video) and monsters "voice" (2:07 in video) and the sound of the fighters and casters spell att the same time gives players an Epic feeling :p

    The music in general Intrepid has for this game with pianos, sounds lovely and relaxing.
    And the boss fight music they have for this video fits really well into this game.


    Liberators - Epic Score (Spotify) is a song thats i think fits in Ashes of creation when fighting a boss.
    The start of the song do NOT fit in Ashes of creation but at 0:51 until 1:40, that... that is EPIC!

    If me and my friends are fighting a battle Pve/pvp (example Battlegrounds/city sieges/World boss/Dungeon Boss) and i hear music like this...I cant describe how awasome the feeling i get is.. its all from exitement, goosebumps and heart beating abit faster. Thats the best feeling when playing and MMORPG in my opinion. :p


    This Ashes of creation video that i linked at the top, at the begining of it when the Mage walks/run in the city and outside the gates into the forest i think this music ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXyH27S_y24 ) fits well.

    In general the song fits well when you are questing in a cosy place ^^


    And i know that every person likes different music. So my liking in battle boss songs might someone else hate :D
  • MarcetMarcet Member
    Play Skyrim soundtrack... feel the massive nostalgia, the nostalgia of being in another world, and everything it made you feel.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=s5sTI_zBg40

    Yes, music is very important.
  • TacualeonTacualeon Member
    edited May 2021
    Bear is doing the music. Not much is known beyond that.
    Also is early in the morning here on a Sunday.

    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Music

    Thank you, I had not read that before.

    I like the hurdy-gurdy. Is a very old and complex instruments from like the year 1200, I hope we get some of that in Ashes.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DXQ0z9NCl8

    I'm watching Black Sails now.


    Hurdy-gurdy
  • maouwmaouw Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Tacualeon wrote: »
    Bear is doing the music. Not much is known beyond that.
    Also is early in the morning here on a Sunday.

    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Music

    Thank you, I had not read that before.

    I like the hurdy-gurdy. Is a very old and complex instruments from like the year 1200, I hope we get some of that in Ashes.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DXQ0z9NCl8

    I'm watching Black Sails now.


    Hurdy-gurdy

    Sounds like bagpipes.

    As long as there's a mute button.
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  • Kaizen_StravaKaizen_Strava Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I am very much looking forward to that slider bar being put into the control panel so I can turn that crap off.
    Would be a good cosmetics store item though. hear gear you can load music into to listen to in game. if yer into that music nonsense.
  • NagashNagash Member, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    maouw wrote: »
    Tacualeon wrote: »
    Bear is doing the music. Not much is known beyond that.
    Also is early in the morning here on a Sunday.

    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Music

    Thank you, I had not read that before.

    I like the hurdy-gurdy. Is a very old and complex instruments from like the year 1200, I hope we get some of that in Ashes.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DXQ0z9NCl8

    I'm watching Black Sails now.


    Hurdy-gurdy

    Sounds like bagpipes.

    As long as there's a mute button.
    :*

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJK9qAUQdAE
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  • I think leaving the option open to use custom music can never hurt. It shouldn't be too hard to make music the only moddable option in game. That way you can replace tracks you don't like.
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  • NagashNagash Member, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Yuyukoyay wrote: »
    I think leaving the option open to use custom music can never hurt. It shouldn't be too hard to make music the only moddable option in game. That way you can replace tracks you don't like.

    just turn off the music in-game and use youtube or Spotify
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