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One More Year

skafftarussskafftaruss Member, Phoenix Initiative, Hero of the People, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
Friends and Frenemies: One more year of waiting for progress. Simply stated, IF AOC cannot fix frame rates, sign-in stability, and mechanics - I am out. It costs this ardent Hero $1K a year to support two guilds. Yet I hear from unknown names that either are noobs or re-named older playahs as white knights lately. So @Lex can be the silent supporter. The launch may be a bust. I say this as the 'doubting thomas' has good intentions while others are not touting reality. Be Safe during COVID times. Skaff, <3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fQwuvZJb7A
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  • SongcallerSongcaller Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Everquest Next killed itself due to the systems they implemented. Too much lag whenever changes in the world were made and the dynamic AI had to update. Made the game unplayable but I digress.

    Not sure if you've broken NDA but I appreciate your viewpoint. I don't try to be a White Knight but I find the Dark Knight cool (Batman). I hope you don't leave. I appreciate your posts. Ashes needs time, its not even past A1 yet mate.
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  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member, Alpha Two
    $1k a year? Sounds like it may be you with the problem.
    This link may help you: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/


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  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    Friends and Frenemies: One more year of waiting for progress. Simply stated, IF AOC cannot fix frame rates, sign-in stability, and mechanics - I am out.
    Two to three years out from release -two of these are not things Intrepid should be even thinking abou yet.

    The other is subjective.

    Why you are paying to "support two guilds" in relation to a game that is still years away from release is beyond me.
  • xydrassialxydrassial Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I just whana play <3
  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member, Alpha Two
    @daveywavey. Problem .... do tell. What's on your mind my sailor of love on valentines day? <3

    Maybe you'd find it an easier wait if you cut down on your spending...?
    This link may help you: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/


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  • WarthWarth Member, Alpha Two
    @Noaani how many years do you predict it will take? Just your opinion and non-attributional. @daveywavey sounds like a guild leader ... awesome. <3

    later half of 2023 is my guess
  • TalentsTalents Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    Don't leave us Skaff :cry:
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  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    My prediction is for a full release in 2024.
  • CakeBanditJrCakeBanditJr Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I'm genuinely confused. Are you seriously spending that kind of money on an unfinished game that is possibly 2 years from release and complaining about issues? Did I misinterpret your intentions? Help me understand.
  • unknownsystemerrorunknownsystemerror Member, Phoenix Initiative, Royalty, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Go to bed Skaff. Your Valentine Viagra mixed with your normal psychotic meds you use to keep the voices at bay and you are trying to rich signal again. This only ever ends with you releasing personal information, or getting banned from media again. Nite nite.
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  • JamationJamation Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Friends and Frenemies: One more year of waiting for progress. Simply stated, IF AOC cannot fix frame rates, sign-in stability, and mechanics - I am out.

    But...we don't even know about how these things are played out...since it's not out? And any information regarding these types of things would only be known by the people currently under a Non-Disclosure Agreement, so they wouldn't be disclosing this information anyways, and if they did that'd be pretty crummy for them.
    It costs this ardent Hero $1K a year to support two guilds.

    Spend your money how you like, but as this game is far from release I don't know why it would cost so much to support a guild at this moment. If these guilds are for different games then the cost wouldn't relate to Ashes anyways.
    Yet I hear from unknown names that either are noobs or re-named older playahs as white knights lately. So @Lex can be the silent supporter. The launch may be a bust. I say this as the 'doubting thomas' has good intentions while others are not touting reality.

    Not sure why the name calling is needed, just seems a bit rude. However, taking into consideration the alpha timeline we've been given, then considering the beta will still come before release, I'm not sure what your basing the 'launch busting' on. Any data/information we have now, on the mentioned topics, most likely won't be relevant in a years time anyway.

  • What is with the increase of schizo posting on the forum lately? We're going to need to confine these people to their own category.
  • WololoWololo Member, Phoenix Initiative, Hero of the People, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    i wonder what one has to take to get the brain messed up like this
  • RiatRiat Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Consider taking a break from it; step off the hype train for a little while. I bought in on the original KS campaign, and it fell off my radar for a few years. Now that I am back, I'm actually happy with the progress the game seems to have made. My point is that it can be exhausting following game development which is traditionally a slow process.
  • ElectronnElectronn Member, Alpha Two
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  • xydrassialxydrassial Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited February 2021
    Alpha in like a week chill no?
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  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    Are you certain AOC is all the hype you want
    From my perspective, I don't care about hype.

    In fact, I actively try to temper it, if that hype is build on incorrection information.

    What Ashes is, at least right now, is the best shot at a good MMO we have. People that want to play a good MMO and are not interested in WoW's bullshit, ESO's ambiguity or FFXIV's small thinking really have nothing at all to play. The only games on the horizon that could fit the bill there are Ashes and Pantheon, and most of us that are here have simply opted for Ashes over Pantheon for our own reasons (for me, it is because I have played games made by all the senior staff at Intrepid, and I have always considered their work to be the best in the business).

    There is no point in getting worked up about this game right now. Full release is 2023 if absolutely nothing goes wrong, which is why I am putting it some time in 2024 myself.

    If being excited for the game is causing you issues - as seems to be the case here - absolutely take a step back. Come back in a year or so - other than having new information to familiarize yourself with, you won't miss out on anything.
  • WhitneyHagasMatsumotoWhitneyHagasMatsumoto Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I hate to use these words, but ......

    "It's useless to deal with them.
    Honestly, I don't even want to take the effort to post this sentence in this thread.

    I apologize if you are using the term without malice.

    But if you are just saying these words to harass everyone, please leave this forum now.
    And please do something useful for the people around you.
    You are not doing yourself or anyone else in this forum any favors.

    Just to be clear, I won't be throwing any more words at you, I don't want to think about anything unpleasant for even 0.1 second.
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  • Cold 0ne FTBCold 0ne FTB Member, Alpha One, Adventurer, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Friends and Frenemies: One more year of waiting for progress. Simply stated, IF AOC cannot fix frame rates, sign-in stability, and mechanics - I am out. It costs this ardent Hero $1K a year to support two guilds. Yet I hear from unknown names that either are noobs or re-named older playahs as white knights lately. So @Lex can be the silent supporter. The launch may be a bust. I say this as the 'doubting thomas' has good intentions while others are not touting reality. Be Safe during COVID times. Skaff, <3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fQwuvZJb7A

    I am really curious. What costs a thousand dollars a year to maintain? I have been a member and an officer of many guilds over the years, some of them small and others massive upwards of 2000+ people. Some of them used teamspeak and had their own websites. Yet none of them cost nearly that much to maintain.
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  • SathragoSathrago Member, Alpha Two

    I am really curious. What costs a thousand dollars a year to maintain? I have been a member and an officer of many guilds over the years, some of them small and others massive upwards of 2000+ people. Some of them used teamspeak and had their own websites. Yet none of them cost nearly that much to maintain.

    He was supporting 2 ERP guilds on the Moonguard server from World of Warcraft purely for the race and gender changes.
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  • halbarzhalbarz Member
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    I am not sure what the OP is talking about when he says: fix frame rates, sign-in stability, and mechanics.
    The game is entering Alpha 1 in a week if I am not mistaken, if we are being realistic Ashes will at best come out in 2023 but most prob. 2024. There are bound to be issues, far worse than a bit of frame rate dropping at this stage.

    Also, I am curious how you spent 1000 USD per year. If you are facing financial challenges consider asking for donations in your guild. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion, it's how we used to fund TS and the guild website for lotro in 2008.
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  • Cold 0ne FTBCold 0ne FTB Member, Alpha One, Adventurer, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    @Cold 0ne FTB : It's called maintaining a couple of web sites, multiple nitro booster(s), an IT techy that understands discord, and some little cheap projects on a shoe string budget. What have you done to support and further AOC? I give constructive criticism because I am scared ashes will fail because of anecdotal evidence like Everquest Next. Namely, not ready for the surge of players at launch because server capacity is not prepared. Being cheap is just being cheap with cuddly platitudes and excuses. Remember Bard said - You only have one chance at launch. Note the video link below on a shoe string budget. Comments on YouTube were more thumbs down than thumbs up, and 'an awful video.' Payed a couple hundred bucks and I tried my voiceover in the Stacy Keach mode .... didn't quite work that way. Cheers! Skaff. https://video.wixstatic.com/video/5ddb65_3b317229fad14962bb6b8687a87b66c0/720p/mp4/file.mp4

    I have provided feedback and paid for alpha 1 pack but at this point this game is out of all our hands. It's completely funded so paying for the Kickstarter or buying a pack doesn't provide any necessary support. Nor does providing feedback as it is almost completely up to Steven as to what the game will be like. I am also not really sure how this is relevant to my question.

    I don't know the level or extend to the organization your guilds require but that sucks that you have to pay for an IT techy usually the guilds I am operate on a volunteer basis and they don't need to pay for that kind of service. The domains and boosting cost money but usually it is a shared cost.
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  • WololoWololo Member, Phoenix Initiative, Hero of the People, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    @skafftaruss you going to threaten me with TOS now while you start this thread with this lol
    sign-in stability,
    I just can not stand the fact that after backing and having hopes for a game every post you make is full of negative stuff that also makes no sence. In fact i have trouble even understanding half of the sentences you are saying. It is like a brain has been overloaded with impulses and just combined a bunch of strange words togethere till it looked like a negative enough story to grab some attention. My only explanation for that would be that a substance foreign to the body is influencing behaviour. Now this does not mean drugs but could be anything. I am going to apologise again though because this was not ment in a mean way rather, as a reminder to actually think a little bit before you type something
  • kanwesmuzzykanwesmuzzy Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Regardless of AoC criticism, am I crazy or is this person talking like he's having a stroke? Someone tell me this guy is a nut or something? I really don't care if he has a legit or not argument about AoC, he is just talking weird.
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