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proximity chat
Stealthyguy
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PLEASE have voice proximity chat in this game! PLEASE........ it's 2021 all the MMOs that don't have this feature are just simply missing it... it's very important MMORPGs strive from being social games, having voice proximity boosts the social aspect of the game by a ton! Just have an option to turn it off of course and your all set.
I don't care what you all think or say, it doesn't matter.... voice proximity chat should be in the game and if you think it shouldn't well then you just haven't actually thought about it and you simply just want to argue just to argue and you feed off anger.
Put voice proximity chat into the game! and make it good! and make it on the top10 most important things on your list.. or sadly this game will die about 3months after it comes out! please fucking do it ffs! I dont care what you think or do... just put the feature in the fucking game... it doesn't hurt anything or anyone if you are to sensitive or scared to have voice proximity chat, you shouldn't be on the computer in the first place and on top of that you dont want those types of customers in your game they will eat the game alive... she/him/they/it..... stfu get out of here.. we just wanna play the game and have fun no one cares that your sensitive go be a twitter warrior and stfu...
I wanna go into a dungeon at lvl 60 and kill lvl 15s killing a boss and i wanna use my mic to shit talk them while i do it, and then i wanna sit there and camp them and talk shit with my voice! this is not bad for the game...
I wanna kill a guy in a 1v1 lvl 60 and talk shit on my mic
I wanna have guild pvp and be able to NOT use discord.... and just use proximity voice chat
I wanna use my voice for whatever i want to, and if there are players that dont like it they can leave... or turn it off
I don't care what you all think or say, it doesn't matter.... voice proximity chat should be in the game and if you think it shouldn't well then you just haven't actually thought about it and you simply just want to argue just to argue and you feed off anger.
Put voice proximity chat into the game! and make it good! and make it on the top10 most important things on your list.. or sadly this game will die about 3months after it comes out! please fucking do it ffs! I dont care what you think or do... just put the feature in the fucking game... it doesn't hurt anything or anyone if you are to sensitive or scared to have voice proximity chat, you shouldn't be on the computer in the first place and on top of that you dont want those types of customers in your game they will eat the game alive... she/him/they/it..... stfu get out of here.. we just wanna play the game and have fun no one cares that your sensitive go be a twitter warrior and stfu...
I wanna go into a dungeon at lvl 60 and kill lvl 15s killing a boss and i wanna use my mic to shit talk them while i do it, and then i wanna sit there and camp them and talk shit with my voice! this is not bad for the game...
I wanna kill a guy in a 1v1 lvl 60 and talk shit on my mic
I wanna have guild pvp and be able to NOT use discord.... and just use proximity voice chat
I wanna use my voice for whatever i want to, and if there are players that dont like it they can leave... or turn it off
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I wanna use my voice for whatever i want to, and if there are players that dont like it they can leave... or turn it off[/quote]
Your the only one that wants to hear your voice.
Hopefully they never cave to the troll crow and waste time on this stuff.
"I wanna have guild pvp and be able to NOT use discord.... and just use proximity voice chat" - Said the player who never found a guild.
PvP, organized combat...you want to have 50 people yelling in game to each other? You want no call outs on targets or positioning? No thanks.
"I wanna kill a guy in a 1v1 lvl 60 and talk shit on my mic" - Said the player who was banned for being toxic. I am all for trash talking but what you want is call of duty style trash talking. No thanks.
"I wanna use my voice for whatever i want to, and if there are players that dont like it they can leave... or turn it off". So now I have to turn my voice coms on and off depending on the toxicity level of those around me? At this point they may as well just shut the servers down and never release the game. This is a horrible way to argue for in game voice coms.
I would love to run into you in Rust. Your base would be swiss cheese before the day ended.
"I wanna go into a dungeon at lvl 60 and kill lvl 15s killing a boss and i wanna use my mic to shit talk them while i do it, and then i wanna sit there and camp them and talk shit with my voice! this is not bad for the game..."
That is the best way to convince these devs to not include proximity chat.
I know right? This whole post has to be reverse psychology.
I don't need voice chat for that.
Sadly it's easily ruined by the masses
And that's about the best way to NOT start a useful discussion on this forum, or basically anywhere else.
Can, or can be totally anti-immersion even if a "good" use. (so, remove all kind of toxicity and animalistic behaviour)
Just, you see a cute elf lady coming to you, and you hear her voice... which is more the one of a man bodybuilder.
I am totally against voice outside of group/raid (maybe guild voice chat channel you can leave/join also?)
This is not needed to make contact with other people in open world, and it avoid all kind of really disturbing behaviour, like the mic near a speaker with any music at max volume...
This topic is so hatefull... i would think he would be a troll if i didnt have proof this kind of people exist. . . !
But looking your post a little.
I will remove the numerous time you said "do it" or "just do it" or any kind of repetitiv command...
oooook ... so lets see how strong your own argument are... (i already gave 2)
Do you have example about it so mandatory for a 20's game based on social interaction to have voice chat? A study maybe ?
Example of game which died because the lack of good ingame voice ? Is this game a MMORPG ?
I read the same thing about FFXIV during ARR beta. "if the game is not free2play, it will die in less than 1 year" ...
Ok, so i am not a good kind of customer just because i prefer being able to hear the game music or my own music while i play quietly... Why am i a bad kind of customer exactly ? i am really interested to know why prefering sometime silence or just music makes me a bad customer...
I want to have fun... and don't worry i am not on twitter, facebook or any other social media
Hum... insulting other player, trashtalking them is not bad for the game... ... do you really know what are "social relationship" ?
I trashtalk friends, and they trashtalk me... we are friend. the same word from unknown people could have total different meaning, and far less "fun" ... (i won't speak about the greykilling, which is some of the worst Behaviour in MMORPG
I always defend what could allow people to be "only on the game" so solution to avoid teamspeak/discord, guild forum and anything, i am positiv about it... Proximity chat is not the solution ! Because proximity = too far from part (or even all) your guildmates. i mean, you are collecting rocks on a montain, while another is fishing at tthe sea... proximity chat won't do the job...
Having a guild voice chat is the solution...
EVEN this argument you give is not in favor of proximity chat v_v
I wanna being able to not hear you and play the game quietly, if you dislike it, you are not forced to be here...
COnclusion : you just wants thing go your way, not because you really think it is "a good thing" but because this is how you like to experience video games ! on a survival game, proximity chat is a good thing, interesting mechanic. not for a MMORPG...
Here is a cookie against all the hate i feel you have to live with
I don't want proximity chat for people like the OP. I need that sort of person to have to type in open chat so that it ends up in my logs, so I can screenshot it and submit it to ScrubQuotes.
Anything less is compromising my enjoyment of the game.
1. You have to waste a bunch of time trawling through meaningless information to find the offending section.
1a. Unless you are recording, which just puts poorer players at a disadvantage for being handled equitably.
2. If I want to call someone out for being a jack ass I want to be able to screenshot that and put it on some suitable part of the forum.
2a.No one is going to click your youtube link Karen. But they WILL have to look at your photo if they are looking at the thread.
3. Unrestricted prox chat therefore limits social shame as a motivating driver which is over all a recipe for really dumb underlying toxicity. Guess who has to spend even more on moderation or has an overwhelmed moderator que line as a result?
Intrepid is a small gaming company who has promised us active gms. This is an amazing boon for the community. Unrestricted proximity chat would squander this expense for ultimately minor social benefits better resolved via other mechanisms.
I just can't fathom how you're expecting to get what you want here. Players will have a few run-ins with people like you, conclude proximity chat to be a worthless toxic cesspit, then quietly disable it and forget it ever existed. And you'll be left alone shouting into the void.
We hear all kinds of random irl crap in the background.
Ok, let´s do as you say and think about it.
Explain how you could guarantee no one would spam volume 10 music or " the funny memes of the week " in this prox chat function.
All these " reasons " you want a Prox chat for...none of them have any real world value part from you wanting arguments.
Sorry bud....but this is a very poorly valued suggestion.
Feel free to post a constructive reply tho as to why it´s needed...part from you wanting to talk s*** etc.
On another topic i said "stop with immersion argument" and this subject and those two post are perfect example...
Immersion is also really personnal... Some people needs a good story telling to immerse themselves in a MMORPG and its lore. Other is more how the open world is living... a friend can't immerse himself in BDO and prefer FFXIV for this, me it is total opposite. I am not receptiv to story telling to make me feel inside the game, i need just a world where i feel being one amongst large population.
For the proximity chat... i see two problem
1) all parasitic sound... just remember H1Z1 lobby to see all people could do with proximity chat. . . If there is one immersion breaking for me... it would clearly be this.
And even outside of stupid people, just those we can hear their keyboard . . .
2) then just turn it off ? It will lead to create 2 separate community inside the game : those using proximity chat and those using text chat. . . It can lead to some communication problem.
Text chat has to remain the default open world chat.
That is objectively true.
How much one cares about that is subjective.
You must have real issues with monitor bevels.
We cannot have that. I already paid for 4 months. Can you not add an extra month to that?
That is a good point. The 'fantasy' (expectation) I have of proximity chat would be to, for example, enter a tavern and be able to hear other players and pick up on rumors like which nodes are currently selling cheap items. You know: like in a typical D&D tavern.
Is there maybe a way we can get the best of both worlds? For example:
Written chat is also very spammy, and we work around that with players reporting other players. Maybe proximity chat should only work when users have push-to-talk enabled (and not constant blasting of audio).
I would love to see/hear a Mayor's speech in full Roleplaying immersion, would be sad to pass that opportunity just because of some 12-year-old playing porn videos on max audio on purpose.
Are there better ways of doing this?
The most obvious is using Discord, but they could also just use a tavern (proximity chat in a tavern is likely to be in the game), or form a raid.
And to me, this is the point. Any time two people want to communicate with each other via voice chat, there are ways to do it. Adding proximity chat will result in 99% of it's use being where at least one person doesn't want to communicate with the other.
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/news/the-mighty-beard/
I feel it's best not to have it, but it's not impossible the devs could come up with something.
I find in-game chat easy enough to ignore.
I think that this is the best point against prox-chat so far, that it could create a rift.
I don't see that as a problem, since many people already choose to also disable chat types like "yells" in big cities or guild chat during raids.
I think most people are just afraid of change. I used to raid using chat only in the old days. Back then I also didn't like the idea of raid audio chat. "40 people talking in one chat? that's gonna be messy, and there is not a way to use raid warnings like that. let's not do that". But I accepted the change and now I am happy about it.
I haven't used proximity chat yet, but from what I have seen on youtube it looks like it is going to be very fun to use, even with the occasional toilet noises and trolls here and there. I think it is more about punishing those that misuse it.
I do believe it should be push-to-talk ONLY though, to reduce a bit of that stress.
I also believe that players should fall into certain categories for the type of things they say, INDEPENDENTLY if they do it in written chat or through audio. Let me report players for:
- trolling;
- spamming;
- offensive language;
- toxicity;
And then, allow players to ignore the whole categories like "toxicity" and "spam". That way, no matter if it is through audio or text messages, they don't have to deal with those players anymore (if the player gets reported enough). Not only would this help voice chat, but it could also give players an extra incentive not to fall into those categories since it should be hard to get out of them and would also affect written chat.
I think something like that is needed, independent of voice chat or not, and even before something like that is implemented, I still think the advantages of audio chat outweigh the disadvantages for those that want it.
Do you guys like that idea?