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Phase I of Alpha Two testing will occur on weekends. Each weekend is scheduled to start on Fridays at 10 AM PT and end on Sundays at 10 PM PT. Find out more here.
Check out Alpha Two Announcements here to see the latest Alpha Two news and update notes.
Our quickest Alpha Two updates are in Discord. Testers with Alpha Two access can chat in Alpha Two channels by connecting your Discord and Intrepid accounts here.
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Intrepid, you don't have to support linux like you do your windows releases, but please don't actively block us by using deeply intrusive anticheats which we cant use proton to overcome. We can fend for ourselves a bit.
I'm seeing some stats being thrown about above and I wonder how true those are.
1) the talk about 0.1% of players generating 10% of tickets i think is disingenuous. Without knowing the nature of the tickets, its hard to say "its the fault of linux". Remember who the type of people are that main run linux... mostly technical people who would be more likely to pro-actively submit a bug report to see a product they support get better. Probably submit higher quality bug reports too.
2) I saw another stat about how linux is a tiny sliver of the desktop market which could be true, but is that restricting the scope to the type of people who would play online video games?
FYI, I can play EVE online on proton fine. It's just a shame at how the devs are behaving over the last few years...
Proof you can not block linux and still run an MMO.
If they use either of the largest most used Anti Cheats then it's as simple as a phone call as far as I have found.
You don't have to support Linux in order to support Linux. You just have to enable it for EAC. There is no development time needed.
So far all my games run, even eso, guild wars and fallout 76. Am not going back to windows for a game. I can play not supported games for fine, at least the ones that don't ban you xD. I hope aoc will work too
Maybe after Ashes releases, @Uural.
There just isn’t enough playerbase on Linux to justify it right now … hopefully you understand that.
It's important to understand that for many of us Linux users, this is a matter of Intrepid clicking one box when configuring EAC. We can normally handle the rest.
If you look at these forums, and the frequency of this question, and the broad support it tends to receive from Linux users present and interested, there are absolutely enough Linux players to justify that 10 minute investment.
The biggest thing Linux users need is simply to not be BANNED when we run the Windows build on our Linux PCs. A Linux-native build would be spectacular, but there probably isn't enough demand to warrant that. But simply not automatically banning Linux users? There absolutely is. And that's all we usually need.
10 minutes?
Sounds like a slam dunk.
What piece of information could Intrepid possibly be missing that prevents this green light??
Probably the fact Linux os can be tailored to run other scripts.
It isnt *quite* this simple, but it does essentially come down to the above choice.
I'm impressed with how deeply rooted the myths around Linux are.
"Linux users are all hackers, it's well known"
"They're all cheaters, it's well known"
"Linux is only 1% of the market, it's well known"
This last statement always makes me smile. A 1% statistic on an OS that is freely downloaded and installed and has no marker internally apart from firefox or Chrome that can't really tell the difference between android or a PC.
On sales, then? Such a good joke.
For a very long time now, Linux users have given up on the idea of having native game support, despite the fact that more and more developers are cross compiling, mainly the Germans. This is why the thread topic is "Linux EAC support" and not "Aoc Linux support". Which some here don't seem to have understood exactly.
EAC support which only consists of adding the linux library to the EAC directories and does exactly the same job as the Windows library, is not opening the door to every cheater on the planet for the simple reason that all cheaters are on Windows and use Windows software or scripts.
Do you really think that cheaters on Windows will suddenly migrate to Linux to do their cheating?
Very strange world that yours.
By the way, people who use Windows don't use it by choice, but only because that's what comes with the computer they buy and Microsoft does a violent marketing to keep it that way, and among developers too. Linux users chose to use it.
In conclusion, all Linux users are demanding is that they not be kicked out just for using Linux. That's all.
(Thanks to DeepL for their help with the translation)
Furthermore, there are aspects of the process that assist 'cheaters'. You can complain about the 'myths' and all. I imagine you might get eac support but the game runs on Windows right now. It's up to the devs really.
Do you assume none would?
I mean, the debate isnt wether it would make cheating easier or not, because we both know it would. The question is "how many people would take advantage of that?".
Without EAC support for Linux, the answer is zero. With EAC support for Linux, the answer is not zero.
I don't really see steam decks as being great for MMO's.
Everyone I know that has one has a gaming PC, and using their steam decks for gaming while out. The thing there is, you dont have a great internet connect most of the time, and so probably dont want to be playing a PvP based MMO.
I use my steam deck to MMO all the time. Its great!!!! On the go I tether it too my phone and do crafting while I wait for my wife when she is in a store. Linux gaming has grown allot over the past 2 years because of steam deck. Many are building gaming PC's using Steam OS as well. I know I am not the only one, as there are many guides to get WoW, ESO and the like running on Steam Decks. Its Epic.
I didn't know that, that's interesting, for sure something to add to the watchlist
Its not even needed anymore to make a Linux version of the game but just add tweaks to the game and help it run with proton.
For crafting I could see it, but not for general play.
I wouldnt call that a win, nor would I call it "epic".
I also wouldn’t want to be doing any competitive PvX content on SteamDeck (pretty much anywhere there’s risk of PvP) … which for Ashes is the vast majority of the game’s content.
One mans lame is another persons epic. Some of the best MMO time has been spent crafting, gathering and grinding NPCs while watching a movie with my wife. Zen gaming time is epic.
Yeah, in some games for sure.
Try that zen gaming grinding NPC's in Ashes and see how long that zen state lasts for.
Keep in mind, I am specifically saying that the Steam Deck wont be used that much specifically for Ashes, for the reasons outlined above - I am not talking about MMO's in general.
*** hears a faint Jabba the Hutt maniacal laugh in the background ***
I think your wrong but that's what forums are for. This will not be my first PvP MMO. I'm used to dealing with random PvP in any form it comes. I know exactly what I'm asking for. I'm also 100% know what Ashes is. I'm an OG backer and been following the game closely. Again, I know what I am asking for. Peace out
Sure bud, no doubt you just forgot to mention it before now.