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Ashes of Creation will have Pay To Win

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  • UnderdelveUnderdelve Member, Alpha Two
    Please close this thread. @Natasha is running low on response memes lol!
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  • UnderdelveUnderdelve Member, Alpha Two
    Natasha wrote: »
    Rummage wrote: »
    Please close this thread. @Natasha is running low on response memes lol!

    There's always another shit take cosmetic thread.


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    That's fair lol!
  • VirtekVirtek Member, Phoenix Initiative, Royalty, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I agree letting the public know the solution would help people counter it. Advertising the game as having no pay to win and not explaining how that is going to be the case isn't ideal either.

    For the love of Bob........
    RMT is NOT the same as P2W. At all. In any way. In any universe. Many people have tried to explain that already. @BaSkA13 , for one, explained things in plenty of detail.
    How do you continue to equate the two?


    Also: there does not exist a single permanent and 100% successful "solution" to RMT. There are tactics to minimize it, but nothing that will be guaranteed to work 100% without literally shutting down the game.
    It's like computer security. it is NEVER 100% secure, no matter what tools you install. Because humans exist and humans do stupid stuff often and can do clever stuff if they want something bad enough. Same for RMT. People come up with clever ways to do stupid stuff and *might* avoid being caught.

    People securing something need to protect against every possible weakness and avenue of bad behavior. Criminals only need to find one way to win.
    If you successfully catch and ban 95 out of 100 gold sellers, I'd call that a major win. If you caught them, it's likely that they are also the highest volume sellers, so what remains is a tiny drop in the bucket.
  • PenguinPaladinPenguinPaladin Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited August 2022
    Virtek wrote: »
    I agree letting the public know the solution would help people counter it. Advertising the game as having no pay to win and not explaining how that is going to be the case isn't ideal either.

    For the love of Bob........
    RMT is NOT the same as P2W. At all. In any way. In any universe. Many people have tried to explain that already. @BaSkA13 , for one, explained things in plenty of detail.
    How do you continue to equate the two?


    Also: there does not exist a single permanent and 100% successful "solution" to RMT. There are tactics to minimize it, but nothing that will be guaranteed to work 100% without literally shutting down the game.
    It's like computer security. it is NEVER 100% secure, no matter what tools you install. Because humans exist and humans do stupid stuff often and can do clever stuff if they want something bad enough. Same for RMT. People come up with clever ways to do stupid stuff and *might* avoid being caught.

    People securing something need to protect against every possible weakness and avenue of bad behavior. Criminals only need to find one way to win.
    If you successfully catch and ban 95 out of 100 gold sellers, I'd call that a major win. If you caught them, it's likely that they are also the highest volume sellers, so what remains is a tiny drop in the bucket.

    Rmt isnt allowed in ashes anyways.... just let the thread die
  • bloodprophetbloodprophet Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Natasha wrote: »
    Rummage wrote: »
    Please close this thread. @Natasha is running low on response memes lol!

    There's always another shit take cosmetic thread.


    ke4joaem5ajg.jpg

    Way to go now there's 2 :D
    Most people never listen. They are just waiting on you to quit making noise so they can.
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