Forced PvP Zones Will Be Amazing!

I am beyond excited for there to be zones like the open water that will be forcing players into PvP. I've been playing MMO's for ever and some of the most memorable and best moments have been in zones like these (Runescape Wilderness for example). I also love the idea of finding ways to mix the PvE Community and the PvP Community together. It can always create such fun chaos between the 2 player types!

What does everyone else think about this?

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Warth

@Dygz i summon thee

Caww

pretty sure all zones are PvX so that PvP action can be had anywhere for willing participants

YaBoiWiilly

@Caww In the most recent Dev update did they not say that Open Waters was going to be forced PvP? Or am i tripping. lol

JustVine

YaBoiWiilly wrote: »

@Caww In the most recent Dev update did they not say that Open Waters was going to be forced PvP? Or am i tripping. lol

They have a personal definition of PvX don't mind them. What they are trying to say is that there is PvE content in the zone for you to do while you are hunting in the forced PvP zone.

YaBoiWiilly

JustVine wrote: »

YaBoiWiilly wrote: »

@Caww In the most recent Dev update did they not say that Open Waters was going to be forced PvP? Or am i tripping. lol

They have a personal definition of PvX don't mind them. What they are trying to say is that there is PvE content in the zone for you to do while you are hunting in the forced PvP zone.

I see i see! Yeah that makes sense. Either way i think these things are going to be really cool for the game

im huge into PvP on New World. So im very excited to see these things!

BaSkA_9x2

I'm pretty sure that Ashes has forced PvP everywhere. When you login to the game, you consent to PvP, regardless if you'll fight back or not.

The only difference between the open sea and the rest of the world is the lack of punishment/corruption/risk for the aggressors.

Cheers

YaBoiWiilly

BaSkA13 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that Ashes has forced PvP everywhere. When you login to the game, you consent to PvP, regardless if you'll fight back or not.

The only difference between the open sea and the rest of the world is the lack of punishment/corruption/risk for the aggressors.

Cheers

I see! Thanks for the clarification!

JustVine

YaBoiWiilly wrote: »

JustVine wrote: »

YaBoiWiilly wrote: »

@Caww In the most recent Dev update did they not say that Open Waters was going to be forced PvP? Or am i tripping. lol

They have a personal definition of PvX don't mind them. What they are trying to say is that there is PvE content in the zone for you to do while you are hunting in the forced PvP zone.

I see i see! Yeah that makes sense. Either way i think these things are going to be really cool for the game im huge into PvP on New World. So im very excited to see these things!

Could you talk more about things you liked about the wilderness relative to open PvP zones and maybe some of the flaws you hope Ashes avoids? It's rare that we get someone who is an open Runescape PvPer around here.

BaSkA_9x2

YaBoiWiilly wrote: »

I see! Thanks for the clarification!

Answers to most of the questions you might have are probably answered in the wiki, definitely recommend taking a look, way more trustworthy than myself 😅

JustVine wrote: »

It's rare that we get someone who is an open Runescape PvPer around here.

Oy, I used to be one. Even played the original DMM for a few months 🥰

Dygz

I also think it will be amazing for players who enjoy that PvP ruleset.
It happens to skew the server too close to a PvP server for me to be willing to play on that server - and since Ashes only has one server ruleset for all servers - that means I won't be playing Ashes after the testing phases.

Of course, when I play New World, I have PvP turned off.

JustVine

BaSkA13 wrote: »

YaBoiWiilly wrote: »

I see! Thanks for the clarification!

Answers to most of the questions you might have are probably answered in the wiki, definitely recommend taking a look, way more trustworthy than myself 😅

JustVine wrote: »

It's rare that we get someone who is an open Runescape PvPer around here.

Oy, I used to be one. Even played the original DMM for a few months 🥰

Im glad your finally opening up about your troubled past mate /s lol. Good to know.

YaBoiWiilly

JustVine wrote: »

YaBoiWiilly wrote: »

JustVine wrote: »

YaBoiWiilly wrote: »

@Caww In the most recent Dev update did they not say that Open Waters was going to be forced PvP? Or am i tripping. lol

They have a personal definition of PvX don't mind them. What they are trying to say is that there is PvE content in the zone for you to do while you are hunting in the forced PvP zone.

I see i see! Yeah that makes sense. Either way i think these things are going to be really cool for the game im huge into PvP on New World. So im very excited to see these things!

Could you talk more about things you liked about the wilderness relative to open PvP zones and maybe some of the flaws you hope Ashes avoids? It's rare that we get someone who is an open Runescape PvPer around here.

Of course! I really enjoyed the Wilderness part of Runescape because it provided this very "Dangerously Mysterious" vibe to the zone. You know there could be high level players there, but you also had the thought of "Well maybe i could get a kill..." and getting someones Gear/Resources always felt so good. Also when you have things like Clue Scrolls in the game that FORCE you to go there. It creates that PVE and PVP part of the playerbase to collide. I think thats awesome.

However Runescape now is suffering from the late game of some of the problems. We are seeing the PVP players wanting to not fight each other, but just prey on the PVE players who are just simply trying to do PVE stuff. So balancing that is still an issue even in games that have been doing it for awhile!

YaBoiWiilly

Dygz wrote: »

I also think it will be amazing for players who enjoy that PvP ruleset.
It happens to skew the server too close to a PvP server for me to be willing to play on that server - and since Ashes only has one server ruleset for all servers - that means I won't be playing Ashes after the testing phases.

Of course, when I play New World, I have PvP turned off.

I love New World, but it doesnt provide much reward for even having PVP on imo.

NaughtyBrute

I also like the change, but saying that:

YaBoiWiilly wrote: »

I also love the idea of finding ways to mix the PvE Community and the PvP Community together.

I think is a bit of a stretch.

Before this change, there was a chance to find some pure PvEers venturing in the open sea for exploration or content.. After the change, they won't even think about it.

It is probably more likely to have the opposite effect from what you expect by further separating the 2 communities.

Dygz

Yeah, I'm a carebear.
I don't have a mindset where getting another player's Gear/Resources feels good. Successfully defending a Caravan or Siege would make me feel good.

YaBoiWiilly

NaughtyBrute wrote: »

I also like the change, but saying that:

YaBoiWiilly wrote: »

I also love the idea of finding ways to mix the PvE Community and the PvP Community together.

I think is a bit of a stretch.

Before this change, there was a chance to find some pure PvEers venturing in the open sea for exploration or content.. After the change, they won't even think about it.

It is probably more likely to have the opposite effect from what you expect by further separating the 2 communities.

I can see that for sure. I guess i just dream of an MMO that can actually make both sides do things together that dont end up in seperation! lol

NaughtyBrute

YaBoiWiilly wrote: »

NaughtyBrute wrote: »

I also like the change, but saying that:

YaBoiWiilly wrote: »

I also love the idea of finding ways to mix the PvE Community and the PvP Community together.

I think is a bit of a stretch.

Before this change, there was a chance to find some pure PvEers venturing in the open sea for exploration or content.. After the change, they won't even think about it.

It is probably more likely to have the opposite effect from what you expect by further separating the 2 communities.

I can see that for sure. I guess i just dream of an MMO that can actually make both sides do things together that dont end up in seperation! lol

That's a nice dream to have and hopefully Intrepid can make it happen

Abarat

Dygz wrote: »

- and since Ashes only has one server ruleset for all servers - that means I won't be playing Ashes after the testing phases.

The "I WILL NOT PLAY" message is already morphing.

YaBoiWiilly

Dygz wrote: »

Yeah, I'm a carebear.
I don't have a mindset where getting another player's Gear/Resources feels good. Successfully defending a Caravan or Siege would make me feel good.

Hah nothing wrong with that either. Sounds like Ashes will need players of all kinds! hah

Dygz

Yep. PvPers have that dream.
I don't see how it can work, but...
If it does work out for Ashes to Steven's satisfaction... that's truly awesome.

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