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Hybrid combat system?

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  • SauronplaySauronplay Member
    Dygz wrote: »
    Tab target combat will not be obsolete for RPGs any time soon.
    How that affects PvP is one of the reasons that PvP is not a great fit for RPGs.

    Nobody uses it unless you are elderly or middle-aged, or have motor difficulties in using the mouse and keyboard. It is totally useless today.

    Action combat is the future and always will be.
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    Sauronplay wrote: »
    Action combat is the future and always will be.

    Tab and action combat offer different playstyles. It isn't just a case of which is physically easier as you are suggesting - tab allows for developers to increase the decision making aspect of combat that is simply unavailable in action combat.

    In action combat, what is important is that you make *A* decision and dont' stand still. From there, it is about fine motor skill. In a tab target game, should developers want it, the focus can be placed more on getting that first decision right, with what happens after that being more tied to that decision than to motor skill.

    In many ways, the action/tab discussion in MMORPG's is similar to the real time vs turn based discussion in strategy games and in RPG combat. Much as in those genres, the likely thing we should expect is that the industry will largely swing like a pendulum between each side.

    Right now the swing is on it's way back from being more towards the action side.
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    no and no to the 2 posts above me xD
  • SoSpokeMikaSoSpokeMika Member
    What I would love to see is more telegraphed skill shot abilities like Scatter Shot (best ability so far IMO) which are useable in both tab and action combat.

    So far, I am only seeing lots of tab target abilities.
  • CROW3CROW3 Member, Alpha Two
    Sauronplay wrote: »
    Nobody uses it unless you are elderly or middle-aged, or have motor difficulties in using the mouse and keyboard. It is totally useless today.

    🤣

    You nailed it. I mean except for more than half the top mmos currently in production, and half the mmos currently in development. But don’t let the evidence get in the way of the verdict.

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  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited May 20
    Sauronplay wrote: »
    Dygz wrote: »
    Tab target combat will not be obsolete for RPGs any time soon.
    How that affects PvP is one of the reasons that PvP is not a great fit for RPGs.

    Nobody uses it unless you are elderly or middle-aged, or have motor difficulties in using the mouse and keyboard. It is totally useless today.

    Action combat is the future and always will be.
    LMAO
    Lots of elderly and middle-aged people play MMORPGs. At least 50% of the MMORPG population, if not more.
    But... it's really an RPG genre thing and has little to do with age.

    Tab-Target is character-based.
    Action is player-based.
    And RPGs are supposed to be about the prowess of the character skills, rather than the prowess of the player skills.
  • OtrOtr Member, Alpha Two
    Dygz wrote: »
    Sauronplay wrote: »
    Dygz wrote: »
    Tab target combat will not be obsolete for RPGs any time soon.
    How that affects PvP is one of the reasons that PvP is not a great fit for RPGs.

    Nobody uses it unless you are elderly or middle-aged, or have motor difficulties in using the mouse and keyboard. It is totally useless today.

    Action combat is the future and always will be.
    LMAO
    Lots of elderly and middle-aged people play MMORPGs. At least 50% of the MMORPG population, if not more.
    They help developing the game by buying the A2 key and cosmetics but they'll get a game young players like.
  • OtrOtr Member, Alpha Two
    edited May 20
    Sauronplay wrote: »
    Dygz wrote: »
    Tab target combat will not be obsolete for RPGs any time soon.
    How that affects PvP is one of the reasons that PvP is not a great fit for RPGs.

    Nobody uses it unless you are elderly or middle-aged, or have motor difficulties in using the mouse and keyboard. It is totally useless today.

    Action combat is the future and always will be.

    By the time AoC is released you will play with your grandchildren. :tongue:
  • DiamahtDiamaht Member, Braver of Worlds, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Sauronplay wrote: »
    It is ridiculous to opt for hybrid combat, it makes no sense today, target combat will be completely obsolete when this game is released.

    Intrepid should opt for action combat, not because boomers like it and find it easier to play due to their lack of motor skills on the mouse and keyboard. Strictly due to the fact that pvp will be totally useless with target combat.

    It's really not a matter of obsolete, as if it were a technological advancement. It's just two different playstyles.

    Tab targeting relies more on build and tactics, less on skill shots. Action is the opposite.

    Not everyone wants to be a zoomer 24/7 when they settle in to play a game.
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