NiKr wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » All I said, is they doing what they can to maximise, their earnings, and rightly so. Do you truly believe that they wouldn't make more money if they sold their cosmetics all the time instead of during exclusive sales? Because I personally don't believe that and the only way to assume that's true is if they plan to start "reselling" them with just tiny tweaks to color or smth like that (pretty much what Bliz like to do afaik). And that's why I said what I said.
Nemeses wrote: » All I said, is they doing what they can to maximise, their earnings, and rightly so.
Nemeses wrote: » No, no, you right, whom I to disagree with the fanboi. Carry on now.
NiKr wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » No, no, you right, whom I to disagree with the fanboi. Carry on now. You seem way more defensive about your views than us, so-called fanbois. You came here accusing Intrepid of "trying to get as much money out of people as possible", yet your only basis for that opinion is "well, I said so, so it must be true". I've seen a ton of people ask Intrepid for separate sales of cosmetics. I've seen polls with hundreds of votes asking the same. This, to me, implies that there'd be a huge demand for cosmetic sales if they weren't tied to several hundred dollar testing keys. I've also seen people ask whether they can purchase older cosmetics, because they love their look (case in point this very thread). This also implies that there's a demand for older cosmetics. Both of those implications lead me to believe that Intrepid would've made way more money if they just kept selling all of their old stuff, while also selling keys separately. But they don't. So, could you please provide any kind of reasoning for why you think Intrepid's doing what they're doing instead of maximizing their immediate profits?
Nemeses wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » Vaknar wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Iirc there's no items over $35 in the packs. But Steven has already addressed this. He's a collector and appreciates rare things. Those who've been with the game since the start will be the ultimate collectors. Anyone else will have to deal with the release-onwards collection. They know they can make more money by just selling it all. Steven is not interested in that currently. This is more-or-less the case. Steven believes that there's something special about rarity and exclusivity in MMORPGs. These cosmetics are a way to fill the game with these unique things, support the project, and provide something to the players who choose to support the project by buying limited-time cosmetics oh, please Steven thinks this is the best way to screw as much money as possible out of people. This has been strategized to what will make the most money, and that's the route you have gone, none other. Anyone who actually believes different, I've got this luverly bridge for sale in London, lots of foot traffic ... @nemeses if Intrepid were trying to make as much money as possible, they wouldn't simply stop selling items forever. The logical way to make the most money is to continue to sell. Your argument here (and your anger) would be perfectly valid if Intrepid decided to suddenly make all items previously stated as being an exclusive of some form available for purchase. As long as they are not doing that, then the above post is simply a show of you venting anger at something other than what you have typed out. Yes they would, it drives up the demand
Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » Vaknar wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Iirc there's no items over $35 in the packs. But Steven has already addressed this. He's a collector and appreciates rare things. Those who've been with the game since the start will be the ultimate collectors. Anyone else will have to deal with the release-onwards collection. They know they can make more money by just selling it all. Steven is not interested in that currently. This is more-or-less the case. Steven believes that there's something special about rarity and exclusivity in MMORPGs. These cosmetics are a way to fill the game with these unique things, support the project, and provide something to the players who choose to support the project by buying limited-time cosmetics oh, please Steven thinks this is the best way to screw as much money as possible out of people. This has been strategized to what will make the most money, and that's the route you have gone, none other. Anyone who actually believes different, I've got this luverly bridge for sale in London, lots of foot traffic ... @nemeses if Intrepid were trying to make as much money as possible, they wouldn't simply stop selling items forever. The logical way to make the most money is to continue to sell. Your argument here (and your anger) would be perfectly valid if Intrepid decided to suddenly make all items previously stated as being an exclusive of some form available for purchase. As long as they are not doing that, then the above post is simply a show of you venting anger at something other than what you have typed out.
Nemeses wrote: » Vaknar wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Iirc there's no items over $35 in the packs. But Steven has already addressed this. He's a collector and appreciates rare things. Those who've been with the game since the start will be the ultimate collectors. Anyone else will have to deal with the release-onwards collection. They know they can make more money by just selling it all. Steven is not interested in that currently. This is more-or-less the case. Steven believes that there's something special about rarity and exclusivity in MMORPGs. These cosmetics are a way to fill the game with these unique things, support the project, and provide something to the players who choose to support the project by buying limited-time cosmetics oh, please Steven thinks this is the best way to screw as much money as possible out of people. This has been strategized to what will make the most money, and that's the route you have gone, none other. Anyone who actually believes different, I've got this luverly bridge for sale in London, lots of foot traffic ...
Vaknar wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Iirc there's no items over $35 in the packs. But Steven has already addressed this. He's a collector and appreciates rare things. Those who've been with the game since the start will be the ultimate collectors. Anyone else will have to deal with the release-onwards collection. They know they can make more money by just selling it all. Steven is not interested in that currently. This is more-or-less the case. Steven believes that there's something special about rarity and exclusivity in MMORPGs. These cosmetics are a way to fill the game with these unique things, support the project, and provide something to the players who choose to support the project by buying limited-time cosmetics
NiKr wrote: » Iirc there's no items over $35 in the packs. But Steven has already addressed this. He's a collector and appreciates rare things. Those who've been with the game since the start will be the ultimate collectors. Anyone else will have to deal with the release-onwards collection. They know they can make more money by just selling it all. Steven is not interested in that currently.
Nemeses wrote: » Do you honestly believe they did not sit down and strategies the best way these items could make money.
Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » Vaknar wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Iirc there's no items over $35 in the packs. But Steven has already addressed this. He's a collector and appreciates rare things. Those who've been with the game since the start will be the ultimate collectors. Anyone else will have to deal with the release-onwards collection. They know they can make more money by just selling it all. Steven is not interested in that currently. This is more-or-less the case. Steven believes that there's something special about rarity and exclusivity in MMORPGs. These cosmetics are a way to fill the game with these unique things, support the project, and provide something to the players who choose to support the project by buying limited-time cosmetics oh, please Steven thinks this is the best way to screw as much money as possible out of people. This has been strategized to what will make the most money, and that's the route you have gone, none other. Anyone who actually believes different, I've got this luverly bridge for sale in London, lots of foot traffic ... @nemeses if Intrepid were trying to make as much money as possible, they wouldn't simply stop selling items forever. The logical way to make the most money is to continue to sell. Your argument here (and your anger) would be perfectly valid if Intrepid decided to suddenly make all items previously stated as being an exclusive of some form available for purchase. As long as they are not doing that, then the above post is simply a show of you venting anger at something other than what you have typed out. Yes they would, it drives up the demand The demand on items 4 years ago is significantly lower than the demand that same item would have a week after launch. Nemeses wrote: » Do you honestly believe they did not sit down and strategies the best way these items could make money. Yes, I do believe they did not do that. When I joined this community, there were perhaps 25,000 people that knew about the game - and yet there were already cosmetics no longer available. At launch, this game will have over a million subscribers. It stands to basic, kindergarten level reason that if the idea is to maximize profit, you sell to that million+ customer base, not the 25,000 customer base. The very fact that Intrepid have limited sales of things they could have unlimited sales of, that people still want to buy, says it is not about maximizing profit.
Nemeses wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » Vaknar wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Iirc there's no items over $35 in the packs. But Steven has already addressed this. He's a collector and appreciates rare things. Those who've been with the game since the start will be the ultimate collectors. Anyone else will have to deal with the release-onwards collection. They know they can make more money by just selling it all. Steven is not interested in that currently. This is more-or-less the case. Steven believes that there's something special about rarity and exclusivity in MMORPGs. These cosmetics are a way to fill the game with these unique things, support the project, and provide something to the players who choose to support the project by buying limited-time cosmetics oh, please Steven thinks this is the best way to screw as much money as possible out of people. This has been strategized to what will make the most money, and that's the route you have gone, none other. Anyone who actually believes different, I've got this luverly bridge for sale in London, lots of foot traffic ... @nemeses if Intrepid were trying to make as much money as possible, they wouldn't simply stop selling items forever. The logical way to make the most money is to continue to sell. Your argument here (and your anger) would be perfectly valid if Intrepid decided to suddenly make all items previously stated as being an exclusive of some form available for purchase. As long as they are not doing that, then the above post is simply a show of you venting anger at something other than what you have typed out. Yes they would, it drives up the demand The demand on items 4 years ago is significantly lower than the demand that same item would have a week after launch. Nemeses wrote: » Do you honestly believe they did not sit down and strategies the best way these items could make money. Yes, I do believe they did not do that. When I joined this community, there were perhaps 25,000 people that knew about the game - and yet there were already cosmetics no longer available. At launch, this game will have over a million subscribers. It stands to basic, kindergarten level reason that if the idea is to maximize profit, you sell to that million+ customer base, not the 25,000 customer base. The very fact that Intrepid have limited sales of things they could have unlimited sales of, that people still want to buy, says it is not about maximizing profit. As I said you guys are right, I never argue with the fanbois, they always right.
Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » Vaknar wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Iirc there's no items over $35 in the packs. But Steven has already addressed this. He's a collector and appreciates rare things. Those who've been with the game since the start will be the ultimate collectors. Anyone else will have to deal with the release-onwards collection. They know they can make more money by just selling it all. Steven is not interested in that currently. This is more-or-less the case. Steven believes that there's something special about rarity and exclusivity in MMORPGs. These cosmetics are a way to fill the game with these unique things, support the project, and provide something to the players who choose to support the project by buying limited-time cosmetics oh, please Steven thinks this is the best way to screw as much money as possible out of people. This has been strategized to what will make the most money, and that's the route you have gone, none other. Anyone who actually believes different, I've got this luverly bridge for sale in London, lots of foot traffic ... @nemeses if Intrepid were trying to make as much money as possible, they wouldn't simply stop selling items forever. The logical way to make the most money is to continue to sell. Your argument here (and your anger) would be perfectly valid if Intrepid decided to suddenly make all items previously stated as being an exclusive of some form available for purchase. As long as they are not doing that, then the above post is simply a show of you venting anger at something other than what you have typed out. Yes they would, it drives up the demand The demand on items 4 years ago is significantly lower than the demand that same item would have a week after launch. Nemeses wrote: » Do you honestly believe they did not sit down and strategies the best way these items could make money. Yes, I do believe they did not do that. When I joined this community, there were perhaps 25,000 people that knew about the game - and yet there were already cosmetics no longer available. At launch, this game will have over a million subscribers. It stands to basic, kindergarten level reason that if the idea is to maximize profit, you sell to that million+ customer base, not the 25,000 customer base. The very fact that Intrepid have limited sales of things they could have unlimited sales of, that people still want to buy, says it is not about maximizing profit. As I said you guys are right, I never argue with the fanbois, they always right. As someone who has bought literally zero cosmetics, I am far from a fanboi of the cosmetics in Ashes. As someone that has openly said Ashes is probably going to have 150,000 players at the most 18 months after launch, you couldn't really call me a fanboi of the game or the developer. What you could call me a fanboi of is the truth - or at least the truth from my perspective. I'll always call out bullshit when I see it on these forums, which is why I called out your bullshit. Nothing to do with being a fanboi of Intrepid, Ashes or the cosmetic store. Everything to do with you being objectively wrong. The thing is, you know this is true. You are arguing that Intrepid should drop the model they have now, so that you can spend more money on things they are selling. You wouldnt be arguing this point if that were not the case.
Nemeses wrote: » I said you were right, yet, you still trying argue your point. (it’s what those pesky fanbois do, batter batter batter) Me wonders if thou does protest to much
Nemeses wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » All I said, is they doing what they can to maximise, their earnings, and rightly so. Do you truly believe that they wouldn't make more money if they sold their cosmetics all the time instead of during exclusive sales? Because I personally don't believe that and the only way to assume that's true is if they plan to start "reselling" them with just tiny tweaks to color or smth like that (pretty much what Bliz like to do afaik). And that's why I said what I said. No, no, you right, whom I to disagree with the fanboi. Carry on now. 😂😂😂😂
Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » I said you were right, yet, you still trying argue your point. (it’s what those pesky fanbois do, batter batter batter) Me wonders if thou does protest to much Stating "you are right" and the calling the other person a fanboi is the same as saying "you haven't convinced me because I refuse to listen, but I also have no actual arguments left to make so I'll attempt to exit this by saying you're right and then calling you a fanboi so other people reading know that I don't actually think you are right". That us just another one of those pieces of bullshit that I wont let stand - just like unsaid above. I mean, everyone here can see right through you. You are upset because you feel you need to get all the cosmetics, but you cant, and so are here bitching that Intrepid are trying to get "maximum profits" by not selling a thing to you that you want to buy. Also, ita you that is here protesting, not me.
Nemeses wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » I said you were right, yet, you still trying argue your point. (it’s what those pesky fanbois do, batter batter batter) Me wonders if thou does protest to much Stating "you are right" and the calling the other person a fanboi is the same as saying "you haven't convinced me because I refuse to listen, but I also have no actual arguments left to make so I'll attempt to exit this by saying you're right and then calling you a fanboi so other people reading know that I don't actually think you are right". That us just another one of those pieces of bullshit that I wont let stand - just like unsaid above. I mean, everyone here can see right through you. You are upset because you feel you need to get all the cosmetics, but you cant, and so are here bitching that Intrepid are trying to get "maximum profits" by not selling a thing to you that you want to buy. Also, ita you that is here protesting, not me. No, as I said, you fanbois, know far more than me, hence your large wall of text
tautau wrote: » Just like Swiss watches, expensive cars, fine wines and top shelf Irish whisky....limit supply so that you don't meet demand. Nemeses, a sophomore level Macro Economics class (or just reading their textbook) will show you that Noaani is correct.
Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » I said you were right, yet, you still trying argue your point. (it’s what those pesky fanbois do, batter batter batter) Me wonders if thou does protest to much Stating "you are right" and the calling the other person a fanboi is the same as saying "you haven't convinced me because I refuse to listen, but I also have no actual arguments left to make so I'll attempt to exit this by saying you're right and then calling you a fanboi so other people reading know that I don't actually think you are right". That us just another one of those pieces of bullshit that I wont let stand - just like unsaid above. I mean, everyone here can see right through you. You are upset because you feel you need to get all the cosmetics, but you cant, and so are here bitching that Intrepid are trying to get "maximum profits" by not selling a thing to you that you want to buy. Also, ita you that is here protesting, not me. No, as I said, you fanbois, know far more than me, hence your large wall of text I mean, it's obvious we do, but it isnt because of the quantity of writing. For you, it's the things you say (Intrepid are trying to maximize their profits by refusing to sell items to you, for example) that highlight how much you know.
Nemeses wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » I said you were right, yet, you still trying argue your point. (it’s what those pesky fanbois do, batter batter batter) Me wonders if thou does protest to much Stating "you are right" and the calling the other person a fanboi is the same as saying "you haven't convinced me because I refuse to listen, but I also have no actual arguments left to make so I'll attempt to exit this by saying you're right and then calling you a fanboi so other people reading know that I don't actually think you are right". That us just another one of those pieces of bullshit that I wont let stand - just like unsaid above. I mean, everyone here can see right through you. You are upset because you feel you need to get all the cosmetics, but you cant, and so are here bitching that Intrepid are trying to get "maximum profits" by not selling a thing to you that you want to buy. Also, ita you that is here protesting, not me. No, as I said, you fanbois, know far more than me, hence your large wall of text I mean, it's obvious we do, but it isnt because of the quantity of writing. For you, it's the things you say (Intrepid are trying to maximize their profits by refusing to sell items to you, for example) that highlight how much you know. Yup 😂😂😂😂😂
Natasha wrote: »
Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » I said you were right, yet, you still trying argue your point. (it’s what those pesky fanbois do, batter batter batter) Me wonders if thou does protest to much Stating "you are right" and the calling the other person a fanboi is the same as saying "you haven't convinced me because I refuse to listen, but I also have no actual arguments left to make so I'll attempt to exit this by saying you're right and then calling you a fanboi so other people reading know that I don't actually think you are right". That us just another one of those pieces of bullshit that I wont let stand - just like unsaid above. I mean, everyone here can see right through you. You are upset because you feel you need to get all the cosmetics, but you cant, and so are here bitching that Intrepid are trying to get "maximum profits" by not selling a thing to you that you want to buy. Also, ita you that is here protesting, not me. No, as I said, you fanbois, know far more than me, hence your large wall of text I mean, it's obvious we do, but it isnt because of the quantity of writing. For you, it's the things you say (Intrepid are trying to maximize their profits by refusing to sell items to you, for example) that highlight how much you know. Yup 😂😂😂😂😂 The only thing worse than people that insist companies not selling them products they want to buy are trying to maximize profits, are people that post on forums with more emojis than letters.
Nemeses wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Nemeses wrote: » I said you were right, yet, you still trying argue your point. (it’s what those pesky fanbois do, batter batter batter) Me wonders if thou does protest to much Stating "you are right" and the calling the other person a fanboi is the same as saying "you haven't convinced me because I refuse to listen, but I also have no actual arguments left to make so I'll attempt to exit this by saying you're right and then calling you a fanboi so other people reading know that I don't actually think you are right". That us just another one of those pieces of bullshit that I wont let stand - just like unsaid above. I mean, everyone here can see right through you. You are upset because you feel you need to get all the cosmetics, but you cant, and so are here bitching that Intrepid are trying to get "maximum profits" by not selling a thing to you that you want to buy. Also, ita you that is here protesting, not me. No, as I said, you fanbois, know far more than me, hence your large wall of text I mean, it's obvious we do, but it isnt because of the quantity of writing. For you, it's the things you say (Intrepid are trying to maximize their profits by refusing to sell items to you, for example) that highlight how much you know. Yup 😂😂😂😂😂 The only thing worse than people that insist companies not selling them products they want to buy are trying to maximize profits, are people that post on forums with more emojis than letters. I know far better than to argue with the fanbois, they just gang up, and spout walls of text. Nor have I insisted they sell me anything, but like all fanbois, you read into post what you prefer to see, and not what’s actually said. There more words than emojis. 😳
