Graphics starting to look a bit outdated?

Unpopular topic but..do you think the graphics and style needs a bit of an update?
Compared to many Asian mmorpgs in development the game lacks in detailed monsters.
The armors are not defined enough,
And the enviroment still looks very flat and not detailed enough.
Theres also no "ambient" stuff like flies, birds, snow/dust flying around when you move though it etc.
Games like New World and that Chrono Odyssey are much more detailed.
New World has some beautiful envorimental graphcis.

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Mag7spy

darthaden wrote: »

Do yourself a favor and compare these. Both videos are supposed to be the same game. One is the trailer which shows truly next gen graphics for an mmo and the other shows what the game actually looks like. You can't trust cinematic YouTube videos full of 2 second long clips.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSTahTUVYao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA8D1rzrXkg&t=543s

Why are you getting manipulated by youtubers, they don't care about you...welll they care about using you as a tool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvA-wYHVbis

Songcaller

On my 4k oled ashes looks better at 4k. I can see the difference between the engines. The toon mouths are definitely weird in t&l at 4k. Wouldn't waste the dollars on playing it at 4k.

Ludullu

Neurath wrote: »

On my 4k oled ashes looks better at 4k. I can see the difference between the engines. The toon mouths are definitely weird in t&l at 4k. Wouldn't waste the dollars on playing it at 4k.

Yeah, UE5 definitely supposed to look better, but to me rn TL looks better as a whole, while Ashes just has a few good separate visuals. But all of that is obviously fixable in time, so I'm not too worried about that yet. The optimization will also be super important, cause TL was incredible for what it is.

Songcaller

Yeah, I can see why the east loves t&l. Its just not my cup of tea. I used to rave about the game prior to release but the let's plays have turned my enthusiasm off. Also, I don't want to get new hardware yet.

BlackBrony

I couldn't care less about graphics. People are still playing wow and Eq. Graphics don't make nor break a game

Songcaller

The holy grail is graphics and gameplay. The issue is hyper realistic graphics age a lot faster so good gameplay is a must first and foremost.

Kilion

I am looking at an Alpha project done with the latest graphic engine where the CEO is on record saying that the core success of a game is not determined by its graphics being the most recent one at all times but by functioning, engaging core mechanics.

No, the graphics don't look outdated to me.
No, I couldn't care less for the graphics of asian P2W auto farmer 917'509'274'565
New World is a steaming pile of copy pasted poop and only "looking better" because the have 5 assets that they could polish and the game is actually released while Ashes is in Alpha.

The take is unpopular because it jerks off on graphics of an unfinished game and tries to put something at the top of the priority list that doesn't belong their. I'd take Zelda Ocarina of Time N64 graphics if the game for a change is not some P2W trash forgotten 5 minutes after the "LaTeSt GrApHiCs" trailers have rolled off the screen and instead has people design the systems who can rub two braincells together.

Talents

They commented on graphical fidelity last July when doing their in-house tech software update.

tl;dr, they need to make the graphics looks good but also allow the game to be run on lower end machines to alleviate the barrier to entry. Also Ashes is trying to have 1000 player fights which wouldn't be possible if you had top of the line cutting edge graphics.

Caww

I have to admit that I did have the "out-dated" thought pop into my head but I do realize that with UE5 under the hood there is plenty of room for improvement, especially given the caliber of the artistic talent at work.

RazThemun

They are not in the final stages of development. Their focus right now is just world creation, character/class creation, ETC. Graphics don't mean anything when there is not an actual game to play. Graphics do not to equate to fun either...

Kilion

Caww wrote: »

I have to admit that I did have the "out-dated" thought pop into my head but I do realize that with UE5 under the hood there is plenty of room for improvement, especially given the caliber of the artistic talent at work.

Why though?
If you had that thought pop up as in the recent livestream I'd say: Yeah, winter terrain usually doesn't look all that spectecular.
If it made you thought that there are games that have better graphics I'd say: Sure, but that doesn't mean Ashes looks bad. Also it needs to be accessible to players on release and constantly trying to keep graphics up to date means slower development of the actual game mechanics which are far more important than "best graphics possible".

Generally I do not understand the obsession some people have with graphics rather than about compelling game mechanics. If I had a say in it, Intrepid wouldn't care about graphics for now and prioritize finishing the actual content of the game rather than the wrapper those come in.

But I guess that's bound to be different from player to player.

daveywavey

I've loved what I've seen so far from the livestreams. I'd play it as it looks now.

Caww

Kilion wrote: »

But I guess that's bound to be different from player to player.

yup...

WHIT3ROS3

I've been spending a lot of time recently in Valheim. A perfect example of style, good lighting and atmosphere creating an environment that looks beautiful and is incredibly immersive. I think people underestimate how important weather effects and music are. The Cyclop's fight during an epic thunder and lightning storm would add so much dynamism to the visuals.

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