Attacking someone on their freehold seems strange.

If I’m playing a mini game to create and item on my freehold, I don’t want to be attacked and have it disrupt my craft. The invulnerability only in houses but not the rest of the freehold seems odd. I’d like to be invulnerable on my entire freehold.

Based on what I understand of the corruption system, you only gain corruption when the person you are attacking dies. Someone could just repeat non-lethal, light attacks to grief my craft.

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Raven016

If a player will repeatedly attack you just to cause annoyance, it can also be reported to a GM.
There are other ways too, to annoy people and a GM should help.

daveywavey

OlympusBurns wrote: »

If I’m playing a mini game to create and item on my freehold, I don’t want to be attacked and have it disrupt my craft. The invulnerability only in houses but not the rest of the freehold seems odd. I’d like to be invulnerable on my entire freehold.

It's proper weird, isn't it. Not sure exactly what's happened to the idea of freeholds, lately.

If anything, it should be a toggle set by the freehold-owner. Someone recently posted an idea about freehold-flags that advertise the PvP status of the freehold, which sounded like a good idea.

daveywavey

Raven016 wrote: »

If a player will repeatedly attack you just to cause annoyance, it can also be reported to a GM.

Is attacking someone against the rules?

Nerror

daveywavey wrote: »

Raven016 wrote: »

If a player will repeatedly attack you just to cause annoyance, it can also be reported to a GM.

Is attacking someone against the rules?

Only if you are the one attacking me. Verboten!

Raven016

daveywavey wrote: »

Raven016 wrote: »

If a player will repeatedly attack you just to cause annoyance, it can also be reported to a GM.

Is attacking someone against the rules?

If he is fishing, yes. Unless it's a bot.

Depraved

Boneshatter wrote: »

I really don't understand the difference between giant walls around your freehold and just instancing it. The whole point is for it to be visible, open, and part of the world.

it will be very visible and open with giant walls surrounding it xD

Liniker

nothing strange with it, its in the open world, not instanced

what would suck is people attacking you and running to the boundary of the freehold stepping out to attack and going back in - like they did in New World since towns were safe zones, that's garbage game design

house being safe is more than enough, no one gonna be walking next to the house anyways - different with your freehold plot since its a big chunk of land

as for people randomly being attack while in the freehold, I think people just have to wait and see because theres a huge misunderstanding of these open world pvp games people seem to think its a gank box people gonna be running around murdering farmers and thats simply not the case....

it will be extremely rare, and even if someone attacks you..... just go inside the house lol TTK is long enough

Fantmx

I will say it will be pretty easy to determine who you want to attack based on what equipment they have on their freehold and what station they are actively using.

Depraved

Liniker wrote: »

nothing strange with it, its in the open world, not instanced

what would suck is people attacking you and running to the boundary of the freehold stepping out to attack and going back in - like they did in New World since towns were safe zones, that's garbage game design

house being safe is more than enough, no one gonna be walking next to the house anyways - different with your freehold plot since its a big chunk of land

as for people randomly being attack while in the freehold, I think people just have to wait and see because theres a huge misunderstanding of these open world pvp games people seem to think its a gank box people gonna be running around murdering farmers thats imply not the case....

it will be extremely rare, and even if someone attacks you..... just go inside the house lol TTK is long enough

well, there is open world pvp...so if they ran to the boundaries of the fh, they would still be in a pvp zone, as the whole map is a pvp zone xD

Veeshan

Liniker wrote: »

nothing strange with it, its in the open world, not instanced

what would suck is people attacking you and running to the boundary of the freehold stepping out to attack and going back in - like they did in New World since towns were safe zones, that's garbage game design

house being safe is more than enough, no one gonna be walking next to the house anyways - different with your freehold plot since its a big chunk of land

as for people randomly being attack while in the freehold, I think people just have to wait and see because theres a huge misunderstanding of these open world pvp games people seem to think its a gank box people gonna be running around murdering farmers thats imply not the case....

it will be extremely rare, and even if someone attacks you..... just go inside the house lol TTK is long enough

I would include inn being protected in that list too tbh since thats where majority or parlor games i feel would be placed.

Ayeveegaming1

I think in one of the last live streams Steven mentioned there would be no permissions or protections for inns or taverns, unless you mean instanced housing.

Fantmx

Liniker wrote: »

nothing strange with it, its in the open world, not instanced

what would suck is people attacking you and running to the boundary of the freehold stepping out to attack and going back in - like they did in New World since towns were safe zones, that's garbage game design

house being safe is more than enough, no one gonna be walking next to the house anyways - different with your freehold plot since its a big chunk of land

as for people randomly being attack while in the freehold, I think people just have to wait and see because theres a huge misunderstanding of these open world pvp games people seem to think its a gank box people gonna be running around murdering farmers thats imply not the case....

it will be extremely rare, and even if someone attacks you..... just go inside the house lol TTK is long enough

I assume this is a big reason for the allowance. It would feel very weird to have open world pvp fights that have to pause as you encounter the corner of a freehold.

Liniker

Fantmx wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

well, there is open world pvp...so if they ran to the boundaries of the fh, they would still be in a pvp zone, as the whole map is a pvp zone xD

you would understand how bad idea this is if you were chasing down a ganker that is very low on HP maybe he just killed a friend of yours maybe he is purple or even red,

and as soon as he steps in boundaries of his FH the ganker is now safe laughing at you in chat, and then he steps out hits you and go back in forcing you to leave lol

safezones in OWPvP games are literally a ganker's heaven, it will not protect casuals/PvErs as much as it will protect and make PKers/Gankers happy trust me

If I was a ganker interested in murdering people I'd be supporting this post lol maybe I'd be asking to make nodes safe zones as well or nodes that allow red players to live lol

Shabooey

and as soon as he steps in boundaries of his FH the ganker is now safe laughing at you in chat, and then he steps out hits you and go back in forcing you to leave lol

Happened in New World all the time, was very frustrating.

Liniker

Shabooey wrote: »

Happened in New World all the time, was very frustrating.

Yup

OlympusBurns

Liniker wrote: »

nothing strange with it, its in the open world, not instanced

what would suck is people attacking you and running to the boundary of the freehold stepping out to attack and going back in - like they did in New World since towns were safe zones, that's garbage game design

house being safe is more than enough, no one gonna be walking next to the house anyways - different with your freehold plot since its a big chunk of land

as for people randomly being attack while in the freehold, I think people just have to wait and see because theres a huge misunderstanding of these open world pvp games people seem to think its a gank box people gonna be running around murdering farmers and thats simply not the case....

it will be extremely rare, and even if someone attacks you..... just go inside the house lol TTK is long enough

I hear ya. I just wonder how they’re going to address it when I’m playing the mini-game to craft an item and I get hit by an attacker. Will I be locked in the mini game until I complete it? Or will the mini-game cut out and force me to lose my progress?

Ayeveegaming1

OlympusBurns wrote: »

Liniker wrote: »

nothing strange with it, its in the open world, not instanced

what would suck is people attacking you and running to the boundary of the freehold stepping out to attack and going back in - like they did in New World since towns were safe zones, that's garbage game design

house being safe is more than enough, no one gonna be walking next to the house anyways - different with your freehold plot since its a big chunk of land

as for people randomly being attack while in the freehold, I think people just have to wait and see because theres a huge misunderstanding of these open world pvp games people seem to think its a gank box people gonna be running around murdering farmers and thats simply not the case....

it will be extremely rare, and even if someone attacks you..... just go inside the house lol TTK is long enough

I hear ya. I just wonder how they’re going to address it when I’m playing the mini-game to craft an item and I get hit by an attacker. Will I be locked in the mini game until I complete it? Or will the mini-game cut out and force me to lose my progress?

that is a good question that I have thought of before., I remember in the past that even looking at merchant trate screens and not being able to notice you are dying until you are dead lol. But I would assume that it would/should interupt a crafting process and close that gump.

Ludullu

Liniker wrote: »

and as soon as he steps in boundaries of his FH the ganker is now safe laughing at you in chat, and then he steps out hits you and go back in forcing you to leave lol

But this is literally no different from him just running to his house. If you couldn't catch up to him before he entered his FH, the chances are you wouldn't be able to catch him for those extra 2-3s of him running into his house.

Hell, if anything, FHs could have only one entrance, and with their huge size the fleeing player would have to run aaaaalll the way around their FH to enter it. Which would in turn give you more time to maybe catch up.

I see that as a plus against gankers. They'd be super limited in their angles of attack if they wanted to fully utilize the FH's safeness.

Ayeveegaming1

Perhaps there could be a "heat of battle" "you cannot flee" debuff placed on you where you could not enter safe zones while in combat.

Depraved

Liniker wrote: »

Fantmx wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

well, there is open world pvp...so if they ran to the boundaries of the fh, they would still be in a pvp zone, as the whole map is a pvp zone xD

you would understand how bad idea this is if you were chasing down a ganker that is very low on HP maybe he just killed a friend of yours maybe he is purple or even red,

and as soon as he steps in boundaries of his FH the ganker is now safe laughing at you in chat, and then he steps out hits you and go back in forcing you to leave lol

safezones in OWPvP games are literally a ganker's heaven, it will not protect casuals/PvErs as much as it will protect and make PKers/Gankers happy trust me

If I was a ganker interested in murdering people I'd be supporting this post lol maybe I'd be asking to make nodes safe zones as well or nodes that allow red players to live lol

you didnt understand what i said. since the fh is out in the open world, and the entire open world is a pvp zone, you cant have protection when you run to the boundaries of ur fh, since you are still out in the world aka a big pvp zone. no safe zones. got it? so cant run back to safety when you are about to die, unelss you are the owner of the fh and run into your house.

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