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Activity sheet.

FrykmanFrykman Member, Alpha Two
Since most games run battle pass to support their game and to keep peoples interest up in playing the game it would be nice with an free activity sheet since Ashes of Creation run monthly subscribtion and no p2w to keep people wanting to log in in long run like a carrot so to speak. Does not have to be something fancy just a thank you for playing kinda.
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  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    edited October 2023
    I'd prefer if the content spoke for itself, rather than dangling keys in front of children, yelling "look at this shiny loud thing, aren't you happy to see it?!"
  • FrykmanFrykman Member, Alpha Two
    Just because there is one thing it doesnt neccessarely exclude the other you know?*
    Avid gamer and charity streamer. looking forward to stream ashes of creation alpha two for my charity hobby.
  • No carrots pls :)
  • FrykmanFrykman Member, Alpha Two
    You prefer steak?^^
    Avid gamer and charity streamer. looking forward to stream ashes of creation alpha two for my charity hobby.
  • Since most games run battle pass to support their game and to keep peoples interest up in playing the game it would be nice with an free activity sheet since Ashes of Creation run monthly subscribtion and no p2w to keep people wanting to log in in long run like a carrot so to speak. Does not have to be something fancy just a thank you for playing kinda.

    nooooooo
  • CROW3CROW3 Member, Alpha Two
    I'm with @NiKr on this one. If the game itself can't keep the attention of it's player base, the solution lies in content not coupons and sparkles.
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  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    A suggestion like the OP's may well entice some weak willed people to stay in the game longer than they may otherwise have stayed, but that isn't actually a good thing for the game, or those players.

    Most players stop logging in as much to a game when they find it less enjoyable than other games. Most MMO developers monitor how often their population logs on, and use it as a metric (one of a few) to work out how well the game is going.

    If people continue to log in to the game even when they aren't enjoying it as much, due to mechanics like what the OP is suggesting, then the developers don't see that drop in players logging on due to less enjoyable gameplay, and thus could be years behind in realizing they are going down the wrong path.
  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two

    Something like a Season/Battle Pass ?

    Because that would be bad, kinda. Everything that resembles a Shop or "payable Item to have something more", ends up being somewhat Soul-annihilating to the Game.

    The only thing that You should "pay" - is the Monthly Subscription after buying the Game in general.

    Everything else is part of what fxxxed over Retail WoW.
    While i think the monthly Trading Post is nice, it is also a bit of FOMO as well.


    We need the cool Experience like back then in Classic. The only thing that should matter ingame is Effort and Teamwork.
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  • CawwCaww Member, Alpha Two
    CROW3 wrote: »
    .... content not coupons and sparkles.

    I like sparkles..... but also identify as

    Noaani wrote: »
    .....weak willed ....

  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    CROW3 wrote: »
    I'm with @NiKr on this one. If the game itself can't keep the attention of it's player base, the solution lies in content not coupons and sparkles.
    Obviously, if the devs could provide continual new content, there would be no need for repetitive content.
    Also, these tasks provide opportunities and rewards for players who have less than 30 minutes to play.
  • CROW3CROW3 Member, Alpha Two
    Counterpoint: MMOs aren’t designed for game sessions of less than 30 min, that’s what Tetris is for. Clearly there are things you can do in shorter sessions, but if it means the Black Spirit inundating me with announcements, coupons, 17 retention bonuses, and little prizes when I enter Verra, I have no interest in Ashes adapting to that length of attention span.

    Candy Crush is that way ——>
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  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited October 2023
    CROW3 wrote: »
    Counterpoint: MMOs aren’t designed for game sessions of less than 30 min, that’s what Tetris is for. Clearly there are things you can do in shorter sessions, but if it means the Black Spirit inundating me with announcements, coupons, 17 retention bonuses, and little prizes when I enter Verra, I have no interest in Ashes adapting to that length of attention span.
    You mean MMORPGs originally weren't designed for game sessions of less than 30 minutes.
    A lot has changed since then. Like the phenomenon of Endgame.
    Also, as MMORPG players age past 25, many only have time for game sessions that are less than 30 minutes (and you can expect game devs over the age of 30 to empathize).
    You can expect something similar to the APOC battle pass in Ashes.
    Seems unlikely that IS will be pushing retention extremes, but... we'll see.
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    Dygz wrote: »
    CROW3 wrote: »
    I'm with @NiKr on this one. If the game itself can't keep the attention of it's player base, the solution lies in content not coupons and sparkles.
    Obviously, if the devs could provide continual new content, there would be no need for repetitive content.
    Also, these tasks provide opportunities and rewards for players who have less than 30 minutes to play.

    but then they cant log in and do whatever they want. they have to do the dailies...doing other things they want to do is also rewarding.
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    Dygz wrote: »
    CROW3 wrote: »
    Counterpoint: MMOs aren’t designed for game sessions of less than 30 min, that’s what Tetris is for. Clearly there are things you can do in shorter sessions, but if it means the Black Spirit inundating me with announcements, coupons, 17 retention bonuses, and little prizes when I enter Verra, I have no interest in Ashes adapting to that length of attention span.
    You mean MMORPGs originally weren't designed for game sessions of less than 30 minutes.
    A lot has changed since then. Like the phenomenon of Endgame.
    Also, as MMORPG players age past 25, many only have time for game sessions that are less than 30 minutes (and you can expect game devs over the age of 30 to empathize).
    You can expect something similar to the APOC battle pass in Ashes.
    Seems unlikely that IS will be pushing retention extremes, but... we'll see.

    a lot has changed since then. remember those words dygz, they will come back to haunt you in another thread whenever you start talking about how mmorpg have deviated from what they originally were and how that isnt right,now things are worse, etc, etc, etc
  • FrykmanFrykman Member, Alpha Two
    Okay lots to read, ofc a activation sheet would mean to be active thats the whole point. Its not something given for free but requires longer or shorter tasks.
    Avid gamer and charity streamer. looking forward to stream ashes of creation alpha two for my charity hobby.
  • FrykmanFrykman Member, Alpha Two
    And no i think majority of players are not boomers and would not want to play anything remotely close to vanilla or classic wow
    Avid gamer and charity streamer. looking forward to stream ashes of creation alpha two for my charity hobby.
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    Caww wrote: »
    CROW3 wrote: »
    .... content not coupons and sparkles.

    I like sparkles..... but also identify as

    Noaani wrote: »
    .....weak willed ....
    I would suggest that anyone that identifies as such is by necessity not.

    Identifying youself thusly requires you to at least have the will to self evaluate honestly.

    On the other hand, if someone else told you that this was the case, then hey, maybe.
  • CawwCaww Member, Alpha Two
    Noaani wrote: »
    On the other hand, if someone else told you that this was the case, then hey, maybe.

    does my wife count?

  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    ofc a activation sheet would mean to be active thats the whole point. Its not something given for free but requires longer or shorter tasks.
    So it's either a chore that has to be done otherwise you're falling behind those who do, or it's a meaningless activity with no reward that'll simply be skipped by people and will have no influence on whether they log into the game daily :)
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    edited October 2023
    Caww wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    On the other hand, if someone else told you that this was the case, then hey, maybe.

    does my wife count?

    Well this depends.

    If your wife is telling you that you are weak willed because you always agree that she is right, I'd wager that just makes you smart.

    Edit; or scared.
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    nah, that makes you weak. set boundaries and tell her to stfu and make u a sammich ;3
  • Depraved wrote: »
    nah, that makes you weak. set boundaries and tell her to stfu and make u a sammich ;3

    umm...
  • @Depraved not an appropriate thing to say(post) regardless of context and perception.
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    @Depraved not an appropriate thing to say(post) regardless of context and perception.

    are you offended in his behalf?
    or maybe in the wife's behalf, who is never gonna read the joke.
    you should go tell comedians not to say inappropriate things as well
  • Depraved wrote: »
    @Depraved not an appropriate thing to say(post) regardless of context and perception.

    are you offended in his behalf?
    or maybe in the wife's behalf, who is never gonna read the joke.
    you should go tell comedians not to say inappropriate things as well

    Stop trying to take this to a personal level.
    Not an appropriate thing to say regardless if you think of it as a joke and how others will read it. Not the place.
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    edited October 2023
    dont tell me what to do. they started the wife jokes, i added one more.

    i dont have anything personal against anyone.

    what is appropriate or inappropriate is subjective, and since we are in IS forums, they are the ones who decide, not you or me.

    also, what's wrong with making a sandwich or cooking? There is nothing wrong with preparing a meal for your spouse. if anything, that's amazing.

    anyways, we should go back to the topic and dailies 🙄
  • Depraved wrote: »
    dont tell me what to do. they started the wife jokes, i added one more.

    i dont have anything personal against anyone.

    what is appropriate or inappropriate is subjective, and since we are in IS forums, they are the ones who decide, not you or me.

    also, what's wrong with making a sandwich or cooking? There is nothing wrong with preparing a meal for your spouse. if anything, that's amazing.

    anyways, we should go back to the topic and dailies 🙄

    well, based on your reply it sounds like from your perspective it's ok to be racist on the forums too as long as it's a joke. What you perceive as funny in your thoughts or when you are with your friends as an example may not be perceived the same way as things typed on a public forums of a companies game/IP. Doesn't matter if they're your friend or not on here or if they are ok with it, the line you stepped over is not appropriate regardless.

    I'm not going to engage this further.

    Not the place.
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    Depraved wrote: »
    @Depraved not an appropriate thing to say(post) regardless of context and perception.

    are you offended in his behalf?
    or maybe in the wife's behalf, who is never gonna read the joke.
    you should go tell comedians not to say inappropriate things as well

    A few points to note here.

    A "joke" like the one you told (I wouldn't consider it a joke) is appropriate in a manner of speaking around close, like minded friends. On a public forum, it is not so much.

    It isn't a case of if anyones wife reads the "joke" in question, it is a matter of the appropriateness of it.

    As to your comments about commedians, if they came on here and made that joke, the same would apply to them. The reason it is acceptable for a comic like Jimmy Carr or Bill Burr to tell jokes like that is because people literally pay good money to them to specificlly hear them tell quality jokes of that manner - they go in expecting that kind of thing.

    That isn't the case here, which is why it isn't appropriate.

    Also, if I went to a comedy show and was presented with a "make me a sammich" joke, I'd probably ask for my money back purely for the lack of originality.
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    i am unoriginal teehee
  • FrykmanFrykman Member, Alpha Two
    NiKr wrote: »
    ofc a activation sheet would mean to be active thats the whole point. Its not something given for free but requires longer or shorter tasks.
    So it's either a chore that has to be done otherwise you're falling behind those who do, or it's a meaningless activity with no reward that'll simply be skipped by people and will have no influence on whether they log into the game daily :)

    No does not have to be any game breaking stuff just some cosmetics
    Avid gamer and charity streamer. looking forward to stream ashes of creation alpha two for my charity hobby.
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