Character naming rules - what do you prefer and where do you want Intrepid to draw the line?

I am curious how serious or goofy you all want the names in Ashes to be, what you prefer yourselves, and where you want Intrepid to draw the line when it comes to allowable names?

For example, the absolutely top-shelf, S-tier names like Tanky McTankface and Healy McHealface will be highly coveted by many, while more serious and boring people will look at them with disdain.

For me, I don't mind seeing silly names as long as they are in somewhat good taste. I most certainly want Intrepid to stop any really crude, sexist or bigoted names, including those where people try to be clever and change them a bit, even though the meaning is clear enough.

For my own character names, I might actually try to match their names with the RL cultures the race draws inspiration from. From the wiki:

Aelean architecture has a French medieval influence.
Dünir have a Nordic cultural influence.
Empyreans have a Greco-Roman imperialistic feeling.
The Kaelar have a European racial influence.
The Niküa have a Polynesian influence.
The Py'Rai have a Navajo Native American influence.
Pyrian architecture has a Greco-Roman influence.
The Vaelune have a Middle Eastern racial influence.
The Vek have a Mesoamerican racial influence.

My Dünir could be named Harald or Astrid, for example, and if I make a Vek, perhaps a name like Tlaloc or Yalina. If I make a Niküan fisherman, a name like Kaikea. I will resist the urge to make a Niküan lady called Moana

I don't expect/want you to list your planned names here or anything, but I would like to know your thoughts on naming, your limits, and where you want Intrepid to set the limit.

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Azherae

I don't much care about limits, though it would be nice if they offered 'random name options' within their goals, AI can help a bit here.

Also if they want to push even further 'AI that helps to convert your standard or goofy name to a more appropriate name racially if you choose to accept it.

Other than that, I'll just be happy if they somehow discourage 'IlllIlIllII' and similar. I'd be fine with some limits set if they also made sure to have the 'AI assisted name shift'. Discouraging symbols other than hyphens and apostrophes, and limiting numbers (or allowing them but making them disappear in some mode or in certain ways) would be good.

Crude names are a problem because languages have different words that then need to be censored because the game allows many. I prefer that 'obviously' offensive names just get reviewed, because it's easy, in my opinion, to set a flag on those.

Not being able to name your character BasementDweller-TheBigBlade because of censorship, isn't a thing I agree with. BalSemenDuelHer-BiggBlad should just get reported.

Nerror

Oh yeah, good point about the barcode names. I definitely don't want those.

And yes, a good name generator would be really nice. Especially if it takes into account the race of the character.

Depraved

tbh no restrictions. i want verra to be the land of freedom ;3

RazThemun

Pick what people like. In the end it is their character they wish to create. Why should I be able to determine what they pick? Or be offended by what is chosen? I do hope they add a random name generator though. Sometimes a gem of a recommendation comes through.

AnimusRex

Very subjective topic that has been the bane of a lot of games before. I'm guessing Intrepid will have a list of unusable terms that deny the name at creation, though players tend to find a way around these things. Then maybe it will come down to a GM acting case by case. Dunno.

I remember Neverwinter Nights and the such having random character creation with dwarves getting brutish stone-themed names and elves having airy fairy ones etc. Good times.

CROW3

No integers
No punctuation
No racial or genital epiphets
Yes on Unicode
Yes on repetitiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive spelling.

daveywavey

Just leave people to it. Names have to be unique per server, so there'll likely be a lot of people who don't get their first choice name. Sure, there will be names that grate on you or that you just plain dislike. But, that's a you thing. There are various things that I don't like in names, like when they start and end with "xxoX__Xoxx" nonsense. But I wouldn't want to stop people expressing themselves like that if they so chose.

Go for it, xxoX_Bob_Xoxx. I'm gonna hunt you down, but you go for it.

Kilion

Mild filtering would probably suffice. No cuss words, no numbers or special symbols - basic stuff. Beyond that the system would have too many loopholes anyways, so why even try manage beyond that. RP players will also have an easier time finding likeminded people when they can be identified just by looking for well crafted names, despite the option to pick something easy and potentially stupid.

-T0Mb-

I hope that AoC has somekind of name generator for players that can't think a name for their characters.

Correct me if I'm wrong but if I remember right Warhammer Age of Reckoning had a name generator that suggested suitable names for characters depending on what race the character belonged.

Dripyula

Cannot say much about names themself but insults should get blacklisted in as many languages as possible and they also get blacklisted "earlier" when it matches the client language of the user, aka most possible an intentional insult cause the user is of that language - if that makes sense.

A few examples in German
" Pommesbude " = Fries stand
" Apfelkuchen " = Apple cake
" Eiscreme " = Icecream

Those are all just food related "names" which might be very immersion breaking, but bear no malice and have a slightly comedic touch. May or may not make you want to bite into the real article briefly.

Nothing that I would get too annoyed by.

And then we have stuff like this
" Hurensohn " = Son of a b°tch ( and maybe a few letters swtiched to get by the censor )
" Hitlair " = but we all know who that player had really thought of
" Fleshspear " = debatable how funny innuendos are

A good censor needs time to be bolstered up to perfection.
Who knows what horrors we gonna see.

Enigmatic Sage

I always found it weird in some games where their naming in the lore has the use of a single apostrophe but you can not put a single apostrophe in your character name.

Give one apostrophe allowance.

Aszkalon

Nerror wrote: »

Dünir have a Nordic cultural influence.
The Kaelar have a European racial influence.

So that means, Dünir und Kaelar will be the MOST hated Races, similar like the Nord in Skyrim, from the Playerbase ... ... ...

... ... ... kidding. Please don't stone me.

But seriously the Times i've read Comments in the Forum back then, who were like :
" I joined the imperial Legion. Because the Nord are RACIST !! "
" Joined the Legion. Because the Nord/Stormcloaks are RACIST !!! "
" Joined Legion, 'cause RACIST !!! " (lol)

" The Stormcloaks are SO. racist !! "
" Nords are racist. "
" Ulfric Stormcloak is racist and THIS is why i joined the Legion !! "
" Racist. "
" Racist !! "
" Racialist* !! "
" xXYyHigs'da'gaggle'di'ga'RACI'SM'muuhh- "

The Game was, where the Fun was. The official Skyrim Forums were, were the CRINGE was !!! 🤣 😅

" Magically ",
no one was also ever interested, in the Fact that the Thalmor are LITERAL Elf-Supremacists - and viewed Humans Beings as a Lower Race that should exist simply to serve them and the like : because Altmer/High Elves are allegedly unconditionally superior due to having more Mana than all the other Races.

This is why i personally - like - the Empyrean Elves.

They are so honest. Like all Elves, they sure have One or several, physical Traits and Abilities that probably seem "vastly" superior compared to all other Races - and i can't see why someone should "NOT" be arrogant, when oneself seems so far more perfect or complete, than all other Races.

I shall await the Spice,
the spiciness that will be Players in the Forums, calling "Dünir" and "Kaelar" racist, for probably Dünir not wanting any other "Races" to have to big an optical Impact on their Proud Dwarven Nodes,

and the Kaelar just for being white. 🤣👍 ... ... 😅 ... ...

Personally, i am curious of why People would be suspicious of the Tulnar instead of being curious about them. Yes, they will probably to likely look the most different from all other Races - won't they ?

Lizard-like Tulnar, "Lion-Minotaur"-like Tulnar - damn if invented right, this Race will be so damn cool.

tautau

"Birds of a feather, flock together"

...and so will similar players, I suspect.

Players of similar age and inclination may well choose similar names. So, the ones who name themselves 'Big Periscope,' 'Donkey Dik,' and 'Dragging Meat' will guild together and a separate guild will form with 'Papa Smurf,' 'Fairy Butterfly,' and 'Pink JelloMoon.'

That makes it easier for other players, perhaps more serious and mature ones, to choose who to group with, guild with, and place our trust in. If I have to choose between being a citizen of a node with a Mayor named Careful McCrafter or a node led by iiIILLIIii, I sure know where I am going to choose to live.

To sum it up, idiotic names chosen by idiots will let us know who the morons to avoid are.

Aszkalon

Depraved wrote: »

tbh no restrictions. i want verra to be the land of freedom ;3

I admire the Amount of Trust you have into People. ( *ggg* )

Depraved

lmao fleshspear is an awesome name ngl.

Aszkalon wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

tbh no restrictions. i want verra to be the land of freedom ;3

I admire the Amount of Trust you have into People. ( *ggg* )

no i just dont care and i dont get offended. and when it comes ot immersion, there are weird names irl, so why not in game as well? and it doesnt bother me at all tbh.

Hinotori

If it's real world hate stuff then names should be moderated.

But if I see someone named Tulnar TestklTwistr then I'm just going to laugh at their creativity.

Caww

I already claimed YoMamasButt so I'm good to go....

SirChancelot

I think if they did something similar to what swtor had it would be cool.

Have a family name, that is account bound. And then given names for each character. So if someone has multiple alts, you can see they are linked.

Snowhti

I would love to have the same concept from FFXIV with a character naming system.

Nerror

SirChancelot wrote: »

I think if they did something similar to what swtor had it would be cool.

Have a family name, that is account bound. And then given names for each character. So if someone has multiple alts, you can see they are linked.

I don't disagree, but Steven wants spies to be a thing, so I don't think we'll see that. To be a successful spy people will likely have to use alt accounts anyway though, the way housing is account-wide. Aside from the whole superman/clark kent dynamic.

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